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They say that 90% of all Range Rovers manufactured are still on the road!

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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    The other 10% have reached their destination. :-D

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    Jan Heckman
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    Some of the remaining 10% might be offroad, right?

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      It's a funny joke, but in seriousness, I always thought Land Rovers and Range Rovers were fairly reliable, as British road monsters go.

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      I had a Freelander 2.0 litre petrol and apart from the head gasket going at 50000 miles (design fault) it never missed a beat, my friend who is very hard on cars still has it and it's approaching 200000 miles

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        Norway's recycling rates for aluminum are great. In 2021 US had ~59% rate according to Statista web site. global recycling efficiency rate is 76%.

        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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        One possible reason is that the Norwegian "Tomra" company (Tomra - Wikipedia[^] is (by far) the world's leading manufacturer of 'reverse vending machines' for return cans/bottles. (A small indicator: Their web site is published in 17 languages.) Every tiny little food shop in Norway have one of these. We've had them since the 1970s. A large fraction of all sorts of bottles, glasses and other small containers carry a deposit - typically 20-50 cents per container - that is paid back to you when you return the empty container through these machines. Manufacturers have to pay a 'packaging tax' that is gradually reduced as the return percentage goes up. This gives them an economic incentive to make customers return empty bottles/cans - and you have an incentive as well: Having your deposit back.

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          trønderen wrote:

          Everyone who knows the Land Rover knows that in rough terrain, the rear axle may break. If you go for a rough trip, you might as well bring your own spare parts

          Interesting perspective. If I knew my car was prone to breaking down given this or that condition, I'd be doing everything I can to avoid those conditions to start with, not bring spare parts so I already have them when it does break down...

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          dandy72 wrote:

          I'd be doing everything I can to avoid those conditions to start with

          Such as dropping that Iceland vacation :-) I guess that you are not now, and have not been, a member of the Scout movement: "Be prepared!" :-)

          Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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            dandy72 wrote:

            I'd be doing everything I can to avoid those conditions to start with

            Such as dropping that Iceland vacation :-) I guess that you are not now, and have not been, a member of the Scout movement: "Be prepared!" :-)

            Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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            trønderen wrote:

            "Be prepared!"

            ...to replace an axle.

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              The other 10% have reached their destination. :-D

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              Andre Oosthuizen
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              How do you double the trade-in value of a Landy? - Fill the tank with fuel... How do you double the value of a Range Rover? - Tow it on a trailer with a Landy (with a full tank) without ever driving it... Going back to my corner now. :-D

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              • J Jan Heckman

                Some of the remaining 10% might be offroad, right?

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                Andre Oosthuizen
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                If you consider the pavement/sidewalk as off-road... :)

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                • T trønderen

                  Not a joke: Sources vary somewhat: I have found estimates ranging from 78% to 87% of all aluminum ever produced is in active use today. I think that is a really great example of recycling working in practice. Here in Norway, we are even told where to put the small aluminum cups from the tea lights, so that they can be recycled. 97.6% of all aluminum cans for beer / soft drinks are collected for recycling. (That is counted by those machines that give you a refund. Maybe even more is recovered from the general garbage. I know that they extract some other metals, e.g. by magnetic extraction. Maybe they have techniques even for non-magnetic metals such as aluminum.) I suppose that the variation in estimates partially come from different definitions of 'in use', e.g. how they count aluminum that at the moment is in the recycling process, not yet having found a new use. In any case, I think the figures are impressing.

                  Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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                  This is why the only way to go is to make plastic as costly as aluminum is.

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                    One possible reason is that the Norwegian "Tomra" company (Tomra - Wikipedia[^] is (by far) the world's leading manufacturer of 'reverse vending machines' for return cans/bottles. (A small indicator: Their web site is published in 17 languages.) Every tiny little food shop in Norway have one of these. We've had them since the 1970s. A large fraction of all sorts of bottles, glasses and other small containers carry a deposit - typically 20-50 cents per container - that is paid back to you when you return the empty container through these machines. Manufacturers have to pay a 'packaging tax' that is gradually reduced as the return percentage goes up. This gives them an economic incentive to make customers return empty bottles/cans - and you have an incentive as well: Having your deposit back.

                    Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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                    And if you can't be bothered getting your deposit back, there is quite likely someone else who will happily pull the container out of the garbage for it. Thats how it winds up working here in Australia, anyway - one of the many places with Tomra recycling centers.

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                    • T trønderen

                      dandy72 wrote:

                      I'd be doing everything I can to avoid those conditions to start with

                      Such as dropping that Iceland vacation :-) I guess that you are not now, and have not been, a member of the Scout movement: "Be prepared!" :-)

                      Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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                      Good thing they weren't known for throwing a rod and breaking an axle. At some point one runs out of space for luggage. And people.

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                      • T trønderen

                        One possible reason is that the Norwegian "Tomra" company (Tomra - Wikipedia[^] is (by far) the world's leading manufacturer of 'reverse vending machines' for return cans/bottles. (A small indicator: Their web site is published in 17 languages.) Every tiny little food shop in Norway have one of these. We've had them since the 1970s. A large fraction of all sorts of bottles, glasses and other small containers carry a deposit - typically 20-50 cents per container - that is paid back to you when you return the empty container through these machines. Manufacturers have to pay a 'packaging tax' that is gradually reduced as the return percentage goes up. This gives them an economic incentive to make customers return empty bottles/cans - and you have an incentive as well: Having your deposit back.

                        Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.

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                        jmaida
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                        Interesting. In TX at least, one could get money on empty glass bottles (not much but some). And for awhile one could get money by the pound for aluminum cans crushed into bricks. Not sure how it works these days. I agree there is some incentive to recycle. To be honest, recycling is major process all should take advantage off.

                        "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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