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  • N Nelek

    In a regular base without counting the email... only CP and in second place reddit to lurk a bit when I have the mood of it. Beyond that... only sporadic links that call my attention.

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    raddevus
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    I'm jealous. You must get a lot of work done. :-D

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    • J Jeremy Falcon

      raddevus wrote:

      Remember the old days when there were multiple search engines (altavista, askjeeves, yahoo, lycos, etc.)?

      It's the natural "progression" of anything though. When something is new, it's a bit raw and more like the wild west. That's where crypto is right now, the wild west. We humans tend to want to structure things (good or bad) so we have some predictability. People can deal with bad as long as it's predictable bad. But, we'll always attempt to organize, quantify, regulate, control, etc. anything raw to make it into something tangible for the masses. And with society's current agreed upon structure that lends itself to a few rising to the "top" mixed with the fact that the vast majority of people are mentally lazy and would rather die than think, there will always be a few rising to the "top" as we put the reigns on something new. Some of it's good; some of it's bad. But humans don't care as long as it's predictable.

      raddevus wrote:

      Remember those days when you visited actual web sites instead of just scrolling down a feed on social media?

      Yeah. :^) And I'm not so sure the caliber of conversation on FB is any better than the IRC/BBS days.

      raddevus wrote:

      the old days were more fun, I think.

      That's the circle of life though. The only way to break it is to re-introduce more novelty, as in find something new and raw. Three examples: 1) If you grow up in a smaller town. You get to know everyone. You get way more freedom and there's less laws and rigid structure. It's more like the wild west though. But you get that freedom (within reason). I remember growing up and a buddy of mine and me would go ramping cars over ditches in a field... because yeehaw. Good luck getting away with that in a big city without a permit or special race track, etc. 2) A lot of CEOs miss the startup days. Yes there was more uncertainty, but there was also more freedom, less rules, easier to pivot, etc. Once you get large, you get lawsuits galore, you can't talk as freely because someone is ready to sue hoping for that payday. Not to mention, if you're the CEO you get the people afraid of you, the fake arse kissers, etc. that you don't know if you're people are real or just milking you. You've created a job not much different than the 9-5 an entrepreneur was trying to escape in the first place. 3) The linux kernel. You know what Linus doe

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      Great post, always enjoy reading your thoughts.

      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

      I remember growing up and a buddy of mine and me would go ramping cars over ditches in a field... because yeehaw

      :thumbsup: My mom remarried and I moved to a rural area with no cable TV when I was 13. We had to make fun. Luckily we had a stocked pond and I learned to fish, learned to shoot fish at night with a BB gun. Learned to clean fish in all manner of ways -- became biology lab when I would dissect their stomachs and find things from long ago. Also, we had motorcycles (dirt bikes) and would play tag on them. Lots of fun and only a few minor cuts & abrasions.

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      He don't code. He's a glorified PR reviewer of PR reviewers, by his own admittance. If you asked him, I bet he misses the old days too when it was new, raw, and exciting and less of a job.

      PR reviewer...Ewww...! Sounds painfully boring. Of course he has a lot more $$$ than me and that's because I don't like boring jobs. Probably should'a went the boring route and did something (besides coding) that made me more $$$. :-D

      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

      Or ya know, accept the middle-aged crisis and go by a corvette

      You can also climb Everest. That's a good one. Or, even run a marathon. (Most marathoners run their first one only after their 40 or something.)

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      • R raddevus

        I'm jealous. You must get a lot of work done. :-D

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        Nelek
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        Didn't I tell CP? :rolleyes: :laugh:

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • R raddevus

          Reading a very interesting book Read, Write, Own by Chris Dixon (MIT Press)[^] and it got me thinking about how few sites I actually visit these days. Remember the old days when there were multiple search engines (altavista, askjeeves, yahoo, lycos, etc.)? Remember those days when you visited actual web sites instead of just scrolling down a feed on social media?

          from Read, Write, Own intro...

          Starting in the mid-2000s, a small group of big companies wrenched control away. Today the top 1 percent of social networks account for 95 percent of social web traffic and 86 percent of social mobile app use. The top 1 percent of search engines account for 97 percent of search traffic, and the top 1 percent of e-commerce sites account for 57 percent of e-commerce traffic. Outside of China, Apple and Google account for more than 95 percent of the mobile app store market. In the past decade, the five biggest tech companies grew from about 25 percent to nearly 50 percent of the market capitalization of the Nasdaq-100. Startups and creative people increasingly depend on networks run by megacorporations like Alphabet(parehnt of Google and YouTube), Amazon, Apple, Meta (parent of

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          Andy Brummer
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          I visit very few websites these days, mostly just Wikipedia, a few news sites and social apps. I've tried to minimize how much time I waste online. As far as the traffic consolidation on the internet, the same thing has happened everywhere. Almost every industry is dominated by a duoploy, or a monopoly that owns multiple "competitors" so it isn't quite so obvious.

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          • R raddevus

            Great post, always enjoy reading your thoughts.

            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

            I remember growing up and a buddy of mine and me would go ramping cars over ditches in a field... because yeehaw

            :thumbsup: My mom remarried and I moved to a rural area with no cable TV when I was 13. We had to make fun. Luckily we had a stocked pond and I learned to fish, learned to shoot fish at night with a BB gun. Learned to clean fish in all manner of ways -- became biology lab when I would dissect their stomachs and find things from long ago. Also, we had motorcycles (dirt bikes) and would play tag on them. Lots of fun and only a few minor cuts & abrasions.

            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

            He don't code. He's a glorified PR reviewer of PR reviewers, by his own admittance. If you asked him, I bet he misses the old days too when it was new, raw, and exciting and less of a job.

            PR reviewer...Ewww...! Sounds painfully boring. Of course he has a lot more $$$ than me and that's because I don't like boring jobs. Probably should'a went the boring route and did something (besides coding) that made me more $$$. :-D

            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

            Or ya know, accept the middle-aged crisis and go by a corvette

            You can also climb Everest. That's a good one. Or, even run a marathon. (Most marathoners run their first one only after their 40 or something.)

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            raddevus wrote:

            Great post, always enjoy reading your thoughts.

            Likewise.

            raddevus wrote:

            Also, we had motorcycles (dirt bikes) and would play tag on them. Lots of fun and only a few minor cuts & abrasions.

            Ha ha ha. Nice. We only had one dirt bike. Sister ran it into the house through some latticework. We got rid of the dirt bike. :laugh: (Don't worry she was ok).

            raddevus wrote:

            You can also climb Everest. That's a good one.

            Nothing but respect for the peeps that do. Mountains be scary... to even drive on.

            Jeremy Falcon

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            • R raddevus

              Reading a very interesting book Read, Write, Own by Chris Dixon (MIT Press)[^] and it got me thinking about how few sites I actually visit these days. Remember the old days when there were multiple search engines (altavista, askjeeves, yahoo, lycos, etc.)? Remember those days when you visited actual web sites instead of just scrolling down a feed on social media?

              from Read, Write, Own intro...

              Starting in the mid-2000s, a small group of big companies wrenched control away. Today the top 1 percent of social networks account for 95 percent of social web traffic and 86 percent of social mobile app use. The top 1 percent of search engines account for 97 percent of search traffic, and the top 1 percent of e-commerce sites account for 57 percent of e-commerce traffic. Outside of China, Apple and Google account for more than 95 percent of the mobile app store market. In the past decade, the five biggest tech companies grew from about 25 percent to nearly 50 percent of the market capitalization of the Nasdaq-100. Startups and creative people increasingly depend on networks run by megacorporations like Alphabet(parehnt of Google and YouTube), Amazon, Apple, Meta (parent of

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              Ron Anders
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              KVR Audio Broncos forum Cakewalk forum GearSpace forum Drag Racing (drag cars in motion thread) Code Project Weather.com Yahoo mail Justice file (local sheriff goings on) Dreamtonics (synth V) news page Those are just my bookmarks bar.:thumbsup:

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              • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

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                Yep, since the 80s. Shooting film and digital now. 35mm, medium-format, and 4x5.

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                  Yep, since the 80s. Shooting film and digital now. 35mm, medium-format, and 4x5.

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                  Nice, I got into it in the late 80s also but never got as involved in it as you. when digital came along I started taking a lot of shots. Started traveling, bought a good camera and lenses and have had a lot of fun with it.

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                  • R raddevus

                    Reading a very interesting book Read, Write, Own by Chris Dixon (MIT Press)[^] and it got me thinking about how few sites I actually visit these days. Remember the old days when there were multiple search engines (altavista, askjeeves, yahoo, lycos, etc.)? Remember those days when you visited actual web sites instead of just scrolling down a feed on social media?

                    from Read, Write, Own intro...

                    Starting in the mid-2000s, a small group of big companies wrenched control away. Today the top 1 percent of social networks account for 95 percent of social web traffic and 86 percent of social mobile app use. The top 1 percent of search engines account for 97 percent of search traffic, and the top 1 percent of e-commerce sites account for 57 percent of e-commerce traffic. Outside of China, Apple and Google account for more than 95 percent of the mobile app store market. In the past decade, the five biggest tech companies grew from about 25 percent to nearly 50 percent of the market capitalization of the Nasdaq-100. Startups and creative people increasingly depend on networks run by megacorporations like Alphabet(parehnt of Google and YouTube), Amazon, Apple, Meta (parent of

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                    raddevus wrote:

                    Remember the old days when there were multiple search engines (altavista, askjeeves, yahoo, lycos, etc.)?

                    No. I remember the names. Don't think I used any of those.

                    raddevus wrote:

                    you visited actual web sites instead of just scrolling down a feed on social media?

                    You mean like scrolling through something like tik tok? I don't do that.

                    raddevus wrote:

                    Starting in the mid-2000s, a small group of big companies wrenched control away

                    So 'mid' in 2005 there were 64 million sites. Now there are almost 2 billion. I would be curious what exactly they "wrenched" away. Certainly now there is vastly more factual content (news, books, tutorials, examples) than there used to be. How Many Website Are There? - Web Stats 2023[^]

                    raddevus wrote:

                    you say you visit each day?

                    More than that. I use google to find answers. Many, many different places. Although I don't usually see he site itself. Mostly I note them because of the different formats that I see.

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                    • R raddevus

                      Reading a very interesting book Read, Write, Own by Chris Dixon (MIT Press)[^] and it got me thinking about how few sites I actually visit these days. Remember the old days when there were multiple search engines (altavista, askjeeves, yahoo, lycos, etc.)? Remember those days when you visited actual web sites instead of just scrolling down a feed on social media?

                      from Read, Write, Own intro...

                      Starting in the mid-2000s, a small group of big companies wrenched control away. Today the top 1 percent of social networks account for 95 percent of social web traffic and 86 percent of social mobile app use. The top 1 percent of search engines account for 97 percent of search traffic, and the top 1 percent of e-commerce sites account for 57 percent of e-commerce traffic. Outside of China, Apple and Google account for more than 95 percent of the mobile app store market. In the past decade, the five biggest tech companies grew from about 25 percent to nearly 50 percent of the market capitalization of the Nasdaq-100. Startups and creative people increasingly depend on networks run by megacorporations like Alphabet(parehnt of Google and YouTube), Amazon, Apple, Meta (parent of

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                      Amarnath S
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                      CodeProject YouTube NDTV (Indian News Site) GitHub Gmail and Google Sanskrit Dictionary site Sanskrit Shlokas (verses) site ChatGPT Copilot

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                      • R raddevus

                        Reading a very interesting book Read, Write, Own by Chris Dixon (MIT Press)[^] and it got me thinking about how few sites I actually visit these days. Remember the old days when there were multiple search engines (altavista, askjeeves, yahoo, lycos, etc.)? Remember those days when you visited actual web sites instead of just scrolling down a feed on social media?

                        from Read, Write, Own intro...

                        Starting in the mid-2000s, a small group of big companies wrenched control away. Today the top 1 percent of social networks account for 95 percent of social web traffic and 86 percent of social mobile app use. The top 1 percent of search engines account for 97 percent of search traffic, and the top 1 percent of e-commerce sites account for 57 percent of e-commerce traffic. Outside of China, Apple and Google account for more than 95 percent of the mobile app store market. In the past decade, the five biggest tech companies grew from about 25 percent to nearly 50 percent of the market capitalization of the Nasdaq-100. Startups and creative people increasingly depend on networks run by megacorporations like Alphabet(parehnt of Google and YouTube), Amazon, Apple, Meta (parent of

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                        Ravi Bhavnani
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                        BBC, CNN, Yahoo Finance, eBay, FB, Amazon, YouTube, CP, ChatGPT, SO. /ravi

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                        • D Daniel Pfeffer

                          CodeProject Ynet (Israeli news site) BBC Microsoft dev docs Amazon YouTube GitHub Academia.edu Google/Bing (depending on my mood and the phase of the moon :) ) Sporadic meme sites Probably a total of 15 or so that I visit semi-regularly.

                          Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                          megaadam
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                          LOL at social media. You may have noticed it being often mentioned, a lot of folks here, like myself do zero social media, zilch. No zombie scrolling. I do check 3 or 4 different news & stock sites. The Lounge, less frequently than daily now. For programming questions I rarely search the web. With the advance of Copilot (Microsoft's integrated GPT) There is rarely need. It is either Copilot or the language standard sites for C++, Python, Go, but much less than daily. Does github count? reviewing colleagues code? It is technically a website, but in practice more like an intranet.

                          "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                            LOL at social media. You may have noticed it being often mentioned, a lot of folks here, like myself do zero social media, zilch. No zombie scrolling. I do check 3 or 4 different news & stock sites. The Lounge, less frequently than daily now. For programming questions I rarely search the web. With the advance of Copilot (Microsoft's integrated GPT) There is rarely need. It is either Copilot or the language standard sites for C++, Python, Go, but much less than daily. Does github count? reviewing colleagues code? It is technically a website, but in practice more like an intranet.

                            "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                            Daniel Pfeffer
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                            megaadam wrote:

                            LOL at social media.

                            I don't use social media (no FB, Xitter, Tik-Tok, etc. ad nauseum), but I do occasionaly browse lists of memes. My not-so-secret vice. :)

                            megaadam wrote:

                            For programming questions I rarely search the web. With the advance of Copilot (Microsoft's integrated GPT) There is rarely need.

                            We aren't allowed to use such things at work - (a) They don't trust it not to send code to the mothership, and (b) they don't trust its suggestions not to include copyrighted code, opening us to lawsuits.

                            megaadam wrote:

                            Does github count?

                            GitHub definitely counts. Why would "social media" count as a web site, but "social code" not?

                            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

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                              MikeTheFid
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                              Very nice, Mike! Especially love your "Study in white".

                              Cheers, Mike Fidler "I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright "I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright "I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.

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                                Very nice, Mike! Especially love your "Study in white".

                                Cheers, Mike Fidler "I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright "I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright "I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.

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                                Thanks Mike. The shot was taken from a moving truck, I believe somewhere in N. Calif.

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                                • R raddevus

                                  Reading a very interesting book Read, Write, Own by Chris Dixon (MIT Press)[^] and it got me thinking about how few sites I actually visit these days. Remember the old days when there were multiple search engines (altavista, askjeeves, yahoo, lycos, etc.)? Remember those days when you visited actual web sites instead of just scrolling down a feed on social media?

                                  from Read, Write, Own intro...

                                  Starting in the mid-2000s, a small group of big companies wrenched control away. Today the top 1 percent of social networks account for 95 percent of social web traffic and 86 percent of social mobile app use. The top 1 percent of search engines account for 97 percent of search traffic, and the top 1 percent of e-commerce sites account for 57 percent of e-commerce traffic. Outside of China, Apple and Google account for more than 95 percent of the mobile app store market. In the past decade, the five biggest tech companies grew from about 25 percent to nearly 50 percent of the market capitalization of the Nasdaq-100. Startups and creative people increasingly depend on networks run by megacorporations like Alphabet(parehnt of Google and YouTube), Amazon, Apple, Meta (parent of

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                                  BernardIE5317
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                                  Many news sites. Many science sites. Many YouTube videos of many subjects id est fast food eaters, health, high end audio, science, many others. Many episodes of "Earth: Final Conflict". It's amazing I get anything done.

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                                    Many news sites. Many science sites. Many YouTube videos of many subjects id est fast food eaters, health, high end audio, science, many others. Many episodes of "Earth: Final Conflict". It's amazing I get anything done.

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                                    raddevus
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                                    BernardIE5317 wrote:

                                    It's amazing I get anything done

                                    Me too. Oh, wait, maybe I don't. :rolleyes:

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                                    • R raddevus

                                      Reading a very interesting book Read, Write, Own by Chris Dixon (MIT Press)[^] and it got me thinking about how few sites I actually visit these days. Remember the old days when there were multiple search engines (altavista, askjeeves, yahoo, lycos, etc.)? Remember those days when you visited actual web sites instead of just scrolling down a feed on social media?

                                      from Read, Write, Own intro...

                                      Starting in the mid-2000s, a small group of big companies wrenched control away. Today the top 1 percent of social networks account for 95 percent of social web traffic and 86 percent of social mobile app use. The top 1 percent of search engines account for 97 percent of search traffic, and the top 1 percent of e-commerce sites account for 57 percent of e-commerce traffic. Outside of China, Apple and Google account for more than 95 percent of the mobile app store market. In the past decade, the five biggest tech companies grew from about 25 percent to nearly 50 percent of the market capitalization of the Nasdaq-100. Startups and creative people increasingly depend on networks run by megacorporations like Alphabet(parehnt of Google and YouTube), Amazon, Apple, Meta (parent of

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                                      I hate to admit how many sites I visit News Woodworking YouTube Entertainment Documentary (often) other Supply Sites things I want to buy (not so often) Build Videos on YouTube mostly woodworking (every now and then) I got tired of Book Marks so I wrote a small app that uses SQLite to store the Site Type you can add various types To select a site your presented with a Data Grid View that shows Site Name URL and Last Visit Date Click on the site and off you go with the visit date updated ONE Big failure if you delete a Site Type the associated sites data don't get deleted Good Design is Everything Lesson Learned

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                                        My mind wonders everywhere and so does my site visitation. Music Carpentry Photography Programming Electronics Educational Books

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                                        Choroid
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                                        Mike I tried to reach out from JaxCoder email fail How do I PM on CP

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                                          Mike I tried to reach out from JaxCoder email fail How do I PM on CP

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                                          No I got your email, I've been working outside. I think I know what you want, am sending you an email.

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