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what is the quick way to get familiar or master a software from beginning?

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  • J jmaida

    I agree. AC3D from inivis.com is a good starter at $99

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    David ONeil
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    As far as I've seen, AC3D isn't a CAD package - there aren't any dimensioning tools in it to my knowledge. If you know differently, then by all means correct me, but if it doesn't do dimensioning I'd highly recommend NOT purchasing it for CAD work. It will be too frustrating. (I played with it a long time ago.) FreeCAD is a better alternative, but it isn't as user friendly as Alibre CAD, or the other options mentioned. If you are into AC3D, Blender is another option you may be interested in. For many items it is far easier to use than AC3D, and far more powerful.

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      Like everything else these days, YouTube videos.

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      Southmountain
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      very few on this topic

      diligent hands rule....

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        As far as I've seen, AC3D isn't a CAD package - there aren't any dimensioning tools in it to my knowledge. If you know differently, then by all means correct me, but if it doesn't do dimensioning I'd highly recommend NOT purchasing it for CAD work. It will be too frustrating. (I played with it a long time ago.) FreeCAD is a better alternative, but it isn't as user friendly as Alibre CAD, or the other options mentioned. If you are into AC3D, Blender is another option you may be interested in. For many items it is far easier to use than AC3D, and far more powerful.

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        jmaida
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        I agree. AC3D is a cheap intro to CAD. Blender is a curious app which I have used. Rendering etc. I use Rhino3D when I am serious. But not cheap. There is CAD and there is rendering (ray tracing, etc.) not always congruent. night all.

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        • S Southmountain

          very few on this topic

          diligent hands rule....

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          David ONeil
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          You are kidding me, right? It isn't that hard to get on YouTube and type in "QCAD for beginner", or something equivalent. [https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=qcad+for+beginner\](https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=qcad+for+beginner) This guy seems to have some good stuff: [Draw QCAD RC Plans for the Lite Ranger 1 Step by Step - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsCmbuysehY)

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          • J jmaida

            I agree. AC3D is a cheap intro to CAD. Blender is a curious app which I have used. Rendering etc. I use Rhino3D when I am serious. But not cheap. There is CAD and there is rendering (ray tracing, etc.) not always congruent. night all.

            "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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            David ONeil
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            jmaida wrote:

            AC3D is a cheap intro to CAD.

            No. It is a cheap intro to creating objects in 3D. (Blender is cheaper, at 'free'.) CAD (Computer Aided Design) is something else, and dimensioning is a central part of that 'something else.' With a proper CAD drawing (not a file, but a 2d drawing printed on paper), you can hand it to a machinist and they can make the part from scratch because it has all the dimensions and tolerances needed to make that part. AC3D is incapable of making such a drawing without tons of work to fake the dimensions. You won't be able to have those 'fake' dimensions update when the part is stretched because they will be pure objects (lines, rectangles, elipses, and even text objects probably...) made to look like real dimensions, but having no connection to the part's real attributes. Any competent CAD package, including QCAD, will have real dimensions that can be updated with the part. AC3D most definitely does not. It would be a grave disservice to point a newbie at real CAD drawing to AC3D because it is a waste of their money, for what they want to learn. FreeCAD would be better, because it introduces them to the concepts of real CAD, and it is free. But there are better options available.

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            • S Southmountain

              now I start to play with QCAD software and start by reading its user guide. so I am wondering if you have any genius way to master this software quickly?

              diligent hands rule....

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              BernardIE5317
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              Simple. Practice. Practice. Practice. You will find yourself in Carnegie Hall.

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                :rose:

                diligent hands rule....

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                honey the codewitch
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                I know it wasn't directly about mastering a software package, but my point was I learn by doing. See if you can find a youtube video, play it back at double speed, and then just mess with the program.

                Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                • B BernardIE5317

                  Simple. Practice. Practice. Practice. You will find yourself in Carnegie Hall.

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                  David ONeil
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                  Not in today's market. I know a trumpet player who had to quit the biz and become a security guard to put bread on the table.

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                    Not in today's market. I know a trumpet player who had to quit the biz and become a security guard to put bread on the table.

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                    BernardIE5317
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                    Did he/she master the trumpet? Sounds like she/he had gigs. Classical? Jazz?

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                    • B BernardIE5317

                      Did he/she master the trumpet? Sounds like she/he had gigs. Classical? Jazz?

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                      David ONeil
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                      He mastered it in college, did cruise ships, then Vegas. Huge downsizing in business because bean counters took over, etc...

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                      • H honey the codewitch

                        Other people's code is how I learn the quickest, TBH. I'll skim a manual and then look for examples of things I'm likely to want to do until I get my "sea legs"

                        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                        Lost User
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                        DITTO PS the rest of this "discussion" is entertaining

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                        • S Southmountain

                          now I start to play with QCAD software and start by reading its user guide. so I am wondering if you have any genius way to master this software quickly?

                          diligent hands rule....

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          The quickest way to learn anything is to go all in. Doesn't matter if it's software or a new language. Devote all your time to it and 10,000 hours later you might know a thing or two.

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                            Other people's code is how I learn the quickest, TBH. I'll skim a manual and then look for examples of things I'm likely to want to do until I get my "sea legs"

                            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                            pkfox
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                            same as :thumbsup:

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                            • J Jeremy Falcon

                              The quickest way to learn anything is to go all in. Doesn't matter if it's software or a new language. Devote all your time to it and 10,000 hours later you might know a thing or two.

                              Jeremy Falcon

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                              When I'm learning a new "thing" nothing else exists until I nail it -I think I may be a tad autistic

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                              • D David ONeil

                                jmaida wrote:

                                AC3D is a cheap intro to CAD.

                                No. It is a cheap intro to creating objects in 3D. (Blender is cheaper, at 'free'.) CAD (Computer Aided Design) is something else, and dimensioning is a central part of that 'something else.' With a proper CAD drawing (not a file, but a 2d drawing printed on paper), you can hand it to a machinist and they can make the part from scratch because it has all the dimensions and tolerances needed to make that part. AC3D is incapable of making such a drawing without tons of work to fake the dimensions. You won't be able to have those 'fake' dimensions update when the part is stretched because they will be pure objects (lines, rectangles, elipses, and even text objects probably...) made to look like real dimensions, but having no connection to the part's real attributes. Any competent CAD package, including QCAD, will have real dimensions that can be updated with the part. AC3D most definitely does not. It would be a grave disservice to point a newbie at real CAD drawing to AC3D because it is a waste of their money, for what they want to learn. FreeCAD would be better, because it introduces them to the concepts of real CAD, and it is free. But there are better options available.

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                                jmaida
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                                I said it was a cheap intro not the only intro. Yes, Blender is also a cheap intro. QCAD is too. Your lecture on CAD tool capabilities is note-worthy for CP audience. For me, been there, done that.

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                                  As far as I've seen, AC3D isn't a CAD package - there aren't any dimensioning tools in it to my knowledge. If you know differently, then by all means correct me, but if it doesn't do dimensioning I'd highly recommend NOT purchasing it for CAD work. It will be too frustrating. (I played with it a long time ago.) FreeCAD is a better alternative, but it isn't as user friendly as Alibre CAD, or the other options mentioned. If you are into AC3D, Blender is another option you may be interested in. For many items it is far easier to use than AC3D, and far more powerful.

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                                  jmaida
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                                  "Computer-aided design (CAD) is the use of computers (or workstations) to aid in the creation, modification, analysis, or optimization of a design" Yes, there is more to it than that. Inivis calls it a "3D design software program". So it is an intro to CAD. Done.

                                  "A little time, a little trouble, your better day" Badfinger

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                                  • pkfoxP pkfox

                                    When I'm learning a new "thing" nothing else exists until I nail it -I think I may be a tad autistic

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                                    Jeremy Falcon
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                                    pkfox wrote:

                                    I think I may be a tad autistic

                                    Maybe... but people always want to label something that's not the norm... even though the norm will always produce mediocre results by it's very nature. I do the same. Methinks you're just focused.

                                    Jeremy Falcon

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                                      The quickest way to learn anything is to go all in. Doesn't matter if it's software or a new language. Devote all your time to it and 10,000 hours later you might know a thing or two.

                                      Jeremy Falcon

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                                      Southmountain
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                                      I have a small project to do and do not have enough time:)

                                      diligent hands rule....

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                                      • B BernardIE5317

                                        Simple. Practice. Practice. Practice. You will find yourself in Carnegie Hall.

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                                        Southmountain
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                                        :thumbsup:

                                        diligent hands rule....

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                                        • D David ONeil

                                          You are kidding me, right? It isn't that hard to get on YouTube and type in "QCAD for beginner", or something equivalent. [https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=qcad+for+beginner\](https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=qcad+for+beginner) This guy seems to have some good stuff: [Draw QCAD RC Plans for the Lite Ranger 1 Step by Step - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsCmbuysehY)

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                                          Southmountain
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                                          this info is great!

                                          diligent hands rule....

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