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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Fo sho. I always use two Chrome profiles. One for business and one for personal use.

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    On a whim, I recently introduced a non-technical neighbor of mine to the concept of profiles. She was constantly fighting web site auto-logins, where it would login as her husband when she meant to login as herself, and vice-versa. She almost instantly "got" the idea behind keeping different profiles, and *loves* the solution. No more manually logging out and then back in, and she can leave her different browser instances each running under a different profile and switch between the two with a single click. She's now saying this completely changed the way she uses a browser (and for the better).

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      charlieg wrote:

      when I pull up Edge on my base iron laptop, in the upper left of the browser, it seems to know who I am - my base Office 365 image is up there smiling at me.

      Click on that image, Other Profiles, Browse as Guest. Or pick another profile instead of Guest. Or use InPrivate mode (Ctrl-Shift-N). These profiles are only (primarily) used to determine what credentials the browser should offer to submit, should you be browsing the same sites as different users. Chrome does the same thing.

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      yeah, and I don't use chrome :). The biggest issue with MS and these online accounts are the merging of all the data. Apple is the premier leader in this space, and even they f'it up.

      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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        yeah, and I don't use chrome :). The biggest issue with MS and these online accounts are the merging of all the data. Apple is the premier leader in this space, and even they f'it up.

        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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        charlieg wrote:

        and I don't use chrome

        Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.

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          charlieg wrote:

          and I don't use chrome

          Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.

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          jschell wrote:

          Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.

          Microsoft claims to have ripped out all the bits that send data back to Google. So there's that. I believe at least that much. Of course that's all been replaced by bits that send data back to them (and then some), but on the other hand, the OS is more than capable of doing the same. If it's gotta go somewhere, I'd rather have this data go to one company than multiple - one of which being the biggest ad broker that has ever existed.

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            charlieg wrote:

            and I don't use chrome

            Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.

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            truth - everyone is sharing engines these days. However, Microsoft has started doing more of their historical antics. First, edge naturally assumes I want to share all of my history across all of my devices, etc. I really don't want to do that unless I really want too. Another example, for decades, default programs were driven by the control panel default programs area. MS in it's "wisdom" has now buried a default browser selection inside of Outlook. They are just f'ing around. Like when they moved Documents from your local drive to under the OneDrive.

            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              jschell wrote:

              Well technically if you are using Edge you are using Chrome. Edge is built on the same code base.

              Microsoft claims to have ripped out all the bits that send data back to Google. So there's that. I believe at least that much. Of course that's all been replaced by bits that send data back to them (and then some), but on the other hand, the OS is more than capable of doing the same. If it's gotta go somewhere, I'd rather have this data go to one company than multiple - one of which being the biggest ad broker that has ever existed.

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              dandy72 wrote:

              that's all been replaced by bits that send data back to them (

              lol They probably didn't work that hard - they just changed the url.

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                truth - everyone is sharing engines these days. However, Microsoft has started doing more of their historical antics. First, edge naturally assumes I want to share all of my history across all of my devices, etc. I really don't want to do that unless I really want too. Another example, for decades, default programs were driven by the control panel default programs area. MS in it's "wisdom" has now buried a default browser selection inside of Outlook. They are just f'ing around. Like when they moved Documents from your local drive to under the OneDrive.

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                Yeah they're really trying hard to push people to their services they're eventually going to want to charge extra for. I wonder if it's gonna take another lawsuit to get them to stop that. It's getting annoying to an extreme. I think the current strategy is to annoy people until they just give in.

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  Assuming it's not just a cache issue from a previous visit... One of the things Microsoft always did with IE and now Edge was integrate it with Active Directory. You ever notice on some internal sites at work you don't have to login when using Edge but you do in other browsers? That's on purpose. That's usually through AD though, so just guessing even if it's a un-authenticated or non-domain login that peeps can still query enough data to get some account info in Edge regardless. It's supposed to be a "feature", but it's always been there in some form. Mo' Info IMO Firefox and Brave are the only browsers that even remotely pretend to care about your privacy. I say this as a dude who uses Chrome.

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                  active directory and edge. what could go wrong? I can see doing that for corporate accounts - pushing the same complexity to personal users is just well Microsoft. Part of the problem with security, cross browser security, etc is that Microsoft never really ever fully implements the idea, just the marketing concept.

                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                    On a whim, I recently introduced a non-technical neighbor of mine to the concept of profiles. She was constantly fighting web site auto-logins, where it would login as her husband when she meant to login as herself, and vice-versa. She almost instantly "got" the idea behind keeping different profiles, and *loves* the solution. No more manually logging out and then back in, and she can leave her different browser instances each running under a different profile and switch between the two with a single click. She's now saying this completely changed the way she uses a browser (and for the better).

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                    hmm. Now, this is the absolute truth. The way I solved this problem is that it's my laptop, no touchy. Here's your laptop. :)

                    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                      hmm. Now, this is the absolute truth. The way I solved this problem is that it's my laptop, no touchy. Here's your laptop. :)

                      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                      Well, my neighbor's often the one doing stuff "under her husband's name" rather than himself, so having separate laptops for the two of them doesn't make much sense. TBH I don't think he uses that laptop, ever.

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