Edge
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When visiting a friend last weekend, I mentioned as a side remark that lots of people never gave a thought to the name 'Edge' - similar to the old days when lots of people using the Lynx browser never associated it with anything but a big, wild cat. My friend knows a lot of math, including a fair amount of graph theory. Yet, he gave me a puzzled look: What do you mean? Is that name supposed to mean anything special? Well ... Yes. Like Lynx. And the little Ford Ka (that's some years ago, isn't it?). And the arrow below the Amazon text in the logo. One common brand of Californian raisins imported to Norway had the brand name 'Sun Maid' (with a picture of a young woman carrying a basket of grapes) - my mother never ever would accept the idea that 'Sun Maid' was a play of 'Sun made', ripened in the sun. Marketing folks come up with lots of bright ideas in this class, and 99% of the audience ignores/overlooks it. I am sure that they are prepared for that :-). I guess that a fair share of the Lounge audience has had their share of graph theory. So let me ask: Have you ever been considering the name 'Edge' as related to hypertext graphs? Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue? (If you care to indicated whether you feel familiar with graph theory, that would be an interesting additional piece of information!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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When visiting a friend last weekend, I mentioned as a side remark that lots of people never gave a thought to the name 'Edge' - similar to the old days when lots of people using the Lynx browser never associated it with anything but a big, wild cat. My friend knows a lot of math, including a fair amount of graph theory. Yet, he gave me a puzzled look: What do you mean? Is that name supposed to mean anything special? Well ... Yes. Like Lynx. And the little Ford Ka (that's some years ago, isn't it?). And the arrow below the Amazon text in the logo. One common brand of Californian raisins imported to Norway had the brand name 'Sun Maid' (with a picture of a young woman carrying a basket of grapes) - my mother never ever would accept the idea that 'Sun Maid' was a play of 'Sun made', ripened in the sun. Marketing folks come up with lots of bright ideas in this class, and 99% of the audience ignores/overlooks it. I am sure that they are prepared for that :-). I guess that a fair share of the Lounge audience has had their share of graph theory. So let me ask: Have you ever been considering the name 'Edge' as related to hypertext graphs? Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue? (If you care to indicated whether you feel familiar with graph theory, that would be an interesting additional piece of information!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
Edge refers to the Edge of the network where all the fun stuff happens. <- like that sentence.
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"It might get loud".
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When visiting a friend last weekend, I mentioned as a side remark that lots of people never gave a thought to the name 'Edge' - similar to the old days when lots of people using the Lynx browser never associated it with anything but a big, wild cat. My friend knows a lot of math, including a fair amount of graph theory. Yet, he gave me a puzzled look: What do you mean? Is that name supposed to mean anything special? Well ... Yes. Like Lynx. And the little Ford Ka (that's some years ago, isn't it?). And the arrow below the Amazon text in the logo. One common brand of Californian raisins imported to Norway had the brand name 'Sun Maid' (with a picture of a young woman carrying a basket of grapes) - my mother never ever would accept the idea that 'Sun Maid' was a play of 'Sun made', ripened in the sun. Marketing folks come up with lots of bright ideas in this class, and 99% of the audience ignores/overlooks it. I am sure that they are prepared for that :-). I guess that a fair share of the Lounge audience has had their share of graph theory. So let me ask: Have you ever been considering the name 'Edge' as related to hypertext graphs? Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue? (If you care to indicated whether you feel familiar with graph theory, that would be an interesting additional piece of information!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Edge refers to the Edge of the network where all the fun stuff happens. <- like that sentence.
Ron Anders wrote:
he Edge of the network where all the fun stuff happens
Ted Nelson, the guy who coined the 'hypertext' idea in his book Computer Lib / Dream machines, is taking both of networks where the information is in the nodes, with no information carried in the edges (the way we have become accustomed to, through WWW), but also networks where the nodes are mere branching points with no information in the nodes (possibly except for labeling of the alternative branches), and all the text or other information lies along the edge to the next node. Nelson makes no discussion about the two alternatives; it may look as if he wasn't very much aware of it at all. If you approach Dream Machines with a conviction that the WWW ball-and-stick model is The One True Realization of Nelson's hypertext ideas, you can certainly find evidence in CL/DM. If you rather approach it thinking that Nelson meant nodes to be selectors of the next text fragment, as an edge leading up to the next selection point, you will find so much evidence for it that you may think WWW is a gross misinterpretation of the hypertext idea. (At least the 1974 vintage. After 35 years with WWW, our minds have become drilled to think of nothing but the ball-and-stick model for hypertext concepts.)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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When visiting a friend last weekend, I mentioned as a side remark that lots of people never gave a thought to the name 'Edge' - similar to the old days when lots of people using the Lynx browser never associated it with anything but a big, wild cat. My friend knows a lot of math, including a fair amount of graph theory. Yet, he gave me a puzzled look: What do you mean? Is that name supposed to mean anything special? Well ... Yes. Like Lynx. And the little Ford Ka (that's some years ago, isn't it?). And the arrow below the Amazon text in the logo. One common brand of Californian raisins imported to Norway had the brand name 'Sun Maid' (with a picture of a young woman carrying a basket of grapes) - my mother never ever would accept the idea that 'Sun Maid' was a play of 'Sun made', ripened in the sun. Marketing folks come up with lots of bright ideas in this class, and 99% of the audience ignores/overlooks it. I am sure that they are prepared for that :-). I guess that a fair share of the Lounge audience has had their share of graph theory. So let me ask: Have you ever been considering the name 'Edge' as related to hypertext graphs? Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue? (If you care to indicated whether you feel familiar with graph theory, that would be an interesting additional piece of information!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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When visiting a friend last weekend, I mentioned as a side remark that lots of people never gave a thought to the name 'Edge' - similar to the old days when lots of people using the Lynx browser never associated it with anything but a big, wild cat. My friend knows a lot of math, including a fair amount of graph theory. Yet, he gave me a puzzled look: What do you mean? Is that name supposed to mean anything special? Well ... Yes. Like Lynx. And the little Ford Ka (that's some years ago, isn't it?). And the arrow below the Amazon text in the logo. One common brand of Californian raisins imported to Norway had the brand name 'Sun Maid' (with a picture of a young woman carrying a basket of grapes) - my mother never ever would accept the idea that 'Sun Maid' was a play of 'Sun made', ripened in the sun. Marketing folks come up with lots of bright ideas in this class, and 99% of the audience ignores/overlooks it. I am sure that they are prepared for that :-). I guess that a fair share of the Lounge audience has had their share of graph theory. So let me ask: Have you ever been considering the name 'Edge' as related to hypertext graphs? Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue? (If you care to indicated whether you feel familiar with graph theory, that would be an interesting additional piece of information!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
trønderen wrote:
Have you ever been considering the name 'Edge' as related to hypertext graphs? Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue?
We are talking Microsoft right? In 2015, when Edge was introduced, Microsoft would have had about 30,000 people working in Sales and Marketing. I am guessing their brainstorming a new product name probably did not circle around complex higher mathematics. While something like 'edgy' would seem like more of a starting point. No idea what facts are behind the following but it suggests it is closer to what I suggested. Sean Lyndersay's answer to Why is Microsoft Edge called Edge? - Quora[^]
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trønderen wrote:
Have you ever been considering the name 'Edge' as related to hypertext graphs? Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue?
We are talking Microsoft right? In 2015, when Edge was introduced, Microsoft would have had about 30,000 people working in Sales and Marketing. I am guessing their brainstorming a new product name probably did not circle around complex higher mathematics. While something like 'edgy' would seem like more of a starting point. No idea what facts are behind the following but it suggests it is closer to what I suggested. Sean Lyndersay's answer to Why is Microsoft Edge called Edge? - Quora[^]
OK, I realize that a directed graph of text nodes with edges linking them is completely irrelevant to the name 'Edge'. The coincidence of graph edges and a the name of a tool for navigating these edges is fortuitous. Then I am probably wrong about 'Lynx' being in any way inspired by 'links'. Or Ford 'Ka' being inspired by 'car'. Or the Amazon arrow running from A to z bearing any symbolic meaning. Or that Californian Sun Maid raisins are made by the sun. I am as well probably wrong about 'web' being inspired by a spider web. The name of the WATFOR compiler is has no relationship to the phrase 'What for?' BASIC is a pure abbreviation of 'Beginner's Allpurpose Symbolic Image Code'; the name is certainly not any hint to the simplicity of the language. The name of the drink 'Coke' was not chosen for its dark color, almost like the mineral. Or for that sake, that these rectangular screen areas and the 'Windows' name of an OS is in any way related. The name similarity is a pure coincidence. Or ... possibly ... Maybe marketing people love to leave some 'Easter eggs' in their marketing material, stuff that isn't immediately visible to everyone. And maybe they like to keep it that way, like a semi-hidden secret. So in their official responses, they do not tell openly where the Easter eggs are hidden. From the comments to my initial post, it looks as if not very many have found the Edge Easter egg.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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OK, I realize that a directed graph of text nodes with edges linking them is completely irrelevant to the name 'Edge'. The coincidence of graph edges and a the name of a tool for navigating these edges is fortuitous. Then I am probably wrong about 'Lynx' being in any way inspired by 'links'. Or Ford 'Ka' being inspired by 'car'. Or the Amazon arrow running from A to z bearing any symbolic meaning. Or that Californian Sun Maid raisins are made by the sun. I am as well probably wrong about 'web' being inspired by a spider web. The name of the WATFOR compiler is has no relationship to the phrase 'What for?' BASIC is a pure abbreviation of 'Beginner's Allpurpose Symbolic Image Code'; the name is certainly not any hint to the simplicity of the language. The name of the drink 'Coke' was not chosen for its dark color, almost like the mineral. Or for that sake, that these rectangular screen areas and the 'Windows' name of an OS is in any way related. The name similarity is a pure coincidence. Or ... possibly ... Maybe marketing people love to leave some 'Easter eggs' in their marketing material, stuff that isn't immediately visible to everyone. And maybe they like to keep it that way, like a semi-hidden secret. So in their official responses, they do not tell openly where the Easter eggs are hidden. From the comments to my initial post, it looks as if not very many have found the Edge Easter egg.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
This discussion reminds me that it was years before I realized that Borland had likely intended their Quattro to be a Spanish-language-inspired follow-on to Lotus 1-2-3.
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When visiting a friend last weekend, I mentioned as a side remark that lots of people never gave a thought to the name 'Edge' - similar to the old days when lots of people using the Lynx browser never associated it with anything but a big, wild cat. My friend knows a lot of math, including a fair amount of graph theory. Yet, he gave me a puzzled look: What do you mean? Is that name supposed to mean anything special? Well ... Yes. Like Lynx. And the little Ford Ka (that's some years ago, isn't it?). And the arrow below the Amazon text in the logo. One common brand of Californian raisins imported to Norway had the brand name 'Sun Maid' (with a picture of a young woman carrying a basket of grapes) - my mother never ever would accept the idea that 'Sun Maid' was a play of 'Sun made', ripened in the sun. Marketing folks come up with lots of bright ideas in this class, and 99% of the audience ignores/overlooks it. I am sure that they are prepared for that :-). I guess that a fair share of the Lounge audience has had their share of graph theory. So let me ask: Have you ever been considering the name 'Edge' as related to hypertext graphs? Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue? (If you care to indicated whether you feel familiar with graph theory, that would be an interesting additional piece of information!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
I'm astounded that 'Sun Maid' was to make me think sun-made - it certainly didn't. Also, the Amazon arrow conjures up juvenile graffiti more than anything else.
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When visiting a friend last weekend, I mentioned as a side remark that lots of people never gave a thought to the name 'Edge' - similar to the old days when lots of people using the Lynx browser never associated it with anything but a big, wild cat. My friend knows a lot of math, including a fair amount of graph theory. Yet, he gave me a puzzled look: What do you mean? Is that name supposed to mean anything special? Well ... Yes. Like Lynx. And the little Ford Ka (that's some years ago, isn't it?). And the arrow below the Amazon text in the logo. One common brand of Californian raisins imported to Norway had the brand name 'Sun Maid' (with a picture of a young woman carrying a basket of grapes) - my mother never ever would accept the idea that 'Sun Maid' was a play of 'Sun made', ripened in the sun. Marketing folks come up with lots of bright ideas in this class, and 99% of the audience ignores/overlooks it. I am sure that they are prepared for that :-). I guess that a fair share of the Lounge audience has had their share of graph theory. So let me ask: Have you ever been considering the name 'Edge' as related to hypertext graphs? Or are you considering it to be just a random name picked out of the blue? (If you care to indicated whether you feel familiar with graph theory, that would be an interesting additional piece of information!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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OK, I realize that a directed graph of text nodes with edges linking them is completely irrelevant to the name 'Edge'. The coincidence of graph edges and a the name of a tool for navigating these edges is fortuitous. Then I am probably wrong about 'Lynx' being in any way inspired by 'links'. Or Ford 'Ka' being inspired by 'car'. Or the Amazon arrow running from A to z bearing any symbolic meaning. Or that Californian Sun Maid raisins are made by the sun. I am as well probably wrong about 'web' being inspired by a spider web. The name of the WATFOR compiler is has no relationship to the phrase 'What for?' BASIC is a pure abbreviation of 'Beginner's Allpurpose Symbolic Image Code'; the name is certainly not any hint to the simplicity of the language. The name of the drink 'Coke' was not chosen for its dark color, almost like the mineral. Or for that sake, that these rectangular screen areas and the 'Windows' name of an OS is in any way related. The name similarity is a pure coincidence. Or ... possibly ... Maybe marketing people love to leave some 'Easter eggs' in their marketing material, stuff that isn't immediately visible to everyone. And maybe they like to keep it that way, like a semi-hidden secret. So in their official responses, they do not tell openly where the Easter eggs are hidden. From the comments to my initial post, it looks as if not very many have found the Edge Easter egg.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
> The name of the drink 'Coke' was not chosen for its dark color, almost like the mineral. That is correct, actually. "Coke" is an abbreviation of "Coca Cola", which derives from its original recipe that included cocaine and kola. Coca-Cola - Wikipedia[^] Coca wine - Wikipedia[^]