Thunderbird: Number of new mails doesn't match
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Thunderbird has been my SMTP client for years. My problem may be Thunderbird related, but my gut feeling says that it is not ... I have several times noticed, when fetching new mail, that the status line says: 'Retrieving message 4 of 12', or something like that. When it completes, there are far less than 12 new messages in my inbox. Tonight, it retrieved 'x of 6 messages', but only a single new message was in my inbox. There is nothing in the Thrash (and when something goes to Thrash, a counter displays the number of new entries). If a filter had redirected the messages to some other folder, it would have been seen in new count for that folder. Anyway, I have looked through every single folder, without finding anything new. This is a fairly new thing; I have noticed it for a few weeks. Can anyone explain what is happening? Why does Thunderbird report 6 messages and display only 1 to me? I am suspecting that someone are trying to check if my mail address is valid, possibly also to see if I am reading the mailbox, by sending messages which somehow is marked to be deleted immediately, or possibly at a specific point in time that is already past - but I wasn't aware that SMTP had such a feature. For the sender to be notified that I have received the mail, I am aware of an SMPT option for that. Thunderbird has several times presented a dialog box telling that the sender has requested a confirmation that the message has been received, with buttons for 'Return confirmation' and 'Do not send confirmation'. I have seen nothing of this when messages are 'missing'. I wasn't aware of an SMPT option for 'silently' generating a read confirmation - does it exist? If it exists, can it be used to secretly 'ping' me, the way it appears to me now? Is there some other possible explanation? Could it be a Thunderbird hiccup? (That is a strange hiccup!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Thunderbird has been my SMTP client for years. My problem may be Thunderbird related, but my gut feeling says that it is not ... I have several times noticed, when fetching new mail, that the status line says: 'Retrieving message 4 of 12', or something like that. When it completes, there are far less than 12 new messages in my inbox. Tonight, it retrieved 'x of 6 messages', but only a single new message was in my inbox. There is nothing in the Thrash (and when something goes to Thrash, a counter displays the number of new entries). If a filter had redirected the messages to some other folder, it would have been seen in new count for that folder. Anyway, I have looked through every single folder, without finding anything new. This is a fairly new thing; I have noticed it for a few weeks. Can anyone explain what is happening? Why does Thunderbird report 6 messages and display only 1 to me? I am suspecting that someone are trying to check if my mail address is valid, possibly also to see if I am reading the mailbox, by sending messages which somehow is marked to be deleted immediately, or possibly at a specific point in time that is already past - but I wasn't aware that SMTP had such a feature. For the sender to be notified that I have received the mail, I am aware of an SMPT option for that. Thunderbird has several times presented a dialog box telling that the sender has requested a confirmation that the message has been received, with buttons for 'Return confirmation' and 'Do not send confirmation'. I have seen nothing of this when messages are 'missing'. I wasn't aware of an SMPT option for 'silently' generating a read confirmation - does it exist? If it exists, can it be used to secretly 'ping' me, the way it appears to me now? Is there some other possible explanation? Could it be a Thunderbird hiccup? (That is a strange hiccup!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Duplicates in 'All Mail' and Important ? I've seen that happen, but didn't pay attention to the message count.
I do not have, nor can I remember ever having an 'All Mail' and 'Important' folder. Searching in the TB help information, it seems as if it may be related to IMAP mail servers - my connection is via pop3. Some entries about 'All Mail' also seem to relate it to gmail, but gmail is not my mail provider; I use online.no, a mail service run by the Norwegian phone company. Any further proposals?
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I do not have, nor can I remember ever having an 'All Mail' and 'Important' folder. Searching in the TB help information, it seems as if it may be related to IMAP mail servers - my connection is via pop3. Some entries about 'All Mail' also seem to relate it to gmail, but gmail is not my mail provider; I use online.no, a mail service run by the Norwegian phone company. Any further proposals?
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Thunderbird has been my SMTP client for years. My problem may be Thunderbird related, but my gut feeling says that it is not ... I have several times noticed, when fetching new mail, that the status line says: 'Retrieving message 4 of 12', or something like that. When it completes, there are far less than 12 new messages in my inbox. Tonight, it retrieved 'x of 6 messages', but only a single new message was in my inbox. There is nothing in the Thrash (and when something goes to Thrash, a counter displays the number of new entries). If a filter had redirected the messages to some other folder, it would have been seen in new count for that folder. Anyway, I have looked through every single folder, without finding anything new. This is a fairly new thing; I have noticed it for a few weeks. Can anyone explain what is happening? Why does Thunderbird report 6 messages and display only 1 to me? I am suspecting that someone are trying to check if my mail address is valid, possibly also to see if I am reading the mailbox, by sending messages which somehow is marked to be deleted immediately, or possibly at a specific point in time that is already past - but I wasn't aware that SMTP had such a feature. For the sender to be notified that I have received the mail, I am aware of an SMPT option for that. Thunderbird has several times presented a dialog box telling that the sender has requested a confirmation that the message has been received, with buttons for 'Return confirmation' and 'Do not send confirmation'. I have seen nothing of this when messages are 'missing'. I wasn't aware of an SMPT option for 'silently' generating a read confirmation - does it exist? If it exists, can it be used to secretly 'ping' me, the way it appears to me now? Is there some other possible explanation? Could it be a Thunderbird hiccup? (That is a strange hiccup!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I have searched each and every mail folder, including Trash/spam folders. (Also: Thunderbird displays the number of unread messages in all folders; I see the spam count since last cleanup.) I noticed that in C:App\users\\AppData\Local\Thunderbird\Profiles\\cache2\entries\ there are a few hundred files, mostly with binary/encrypted data, but some parts are readable text. A fair share of these, roughly 1 in 4 files, contains a (long) line starting with "content-security-policy: script-src https://ssl.google-analytics.com/ga.js ..." This strengthens my suspicion that some sort of monitoring / spying is going on. I do no consider Google Analytics to represent my security concerns! Quite to the opposite. Google is more like securing profits, or possibly helping the authorities being secure against people with non-PC thoughts. (Eric Blair has some hints and tips on how to do that.)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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Thunderbird has been my SMTP client for years. My problem may be Thunderbird related, but my gut feeling says that it is not ... I have several times noticed, when fetching new mail, that the status line says: 'Retrieving message 4 of 12', or something like that. When it completes, there are far less than 12 new messages in my inbox. Tonight, it retrieved 'x of 6 messages', but only a single new message was in my inbox. There is nothing in the Thrash (and when something goes to Thrash, a counter displays the number of new entries). If a filter had redirected the messages to some other folder, it would have been seen in new count for that folder. Anyway, I have looked through every single folder, without finding anything new. This is a fairly new thing; I have noticed it for a few weeks. Can anyone explain what is happening? Why does Thunderbird report 6 messages and display only 1 to me? I am suspecting that someone are trying to check if my mail address is valid, possibly also to see if I am reading the mailbox, by sending messages which somehow is marked to be deleted immediately, or possibly at a specific point in time that is already past - but I wasn't aware that SMTP had such a feature. For the sender to be notified that I have received the mail, I am aware of an SMPT option for that. Thunderbird has several times presented a dialog box telling that the sender has requested a confirmation that the message has been received, with buttons for 'Return confirmation' and 'Do not send confirmation'. I have seen nothing of this when messages are 'missing'. I wasn't aware of an SMPT option for 'silently' generating a read confirmation - does it exist? If it exists, can it be used to secretly 'ping' me, the way it appears to me now? Is there some other possible explanation? Could it be a Thunderbird hiccup? (That is a strange hiccup!)
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
Is the single message you see SPAM? Could be a lazy spammer that is not bothering to change the Message-ID on the message. Sends the message 6 times. Mail client sees 6 messages on the server downloads them, but they all have the same Message-ID, so it correctly de-duplicates them. If that is the case, then my next question would be: Why didn’t the server de-duplicate them?