Manual vs computerized business processes.
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The IT segment catering to the latter of the subject, is the ERP segment. Businesses still continued before computers, based on paper, file based manual systems. This comprise a host of activities like invoicing, physical stock,...etc. A typical invoicing program would be in the range of several thousand lines of code, resulting in not less than around 10 man days. Well that is the time it takes to INSTRUCT THE COMPUTER to carry out the invoicing activity. How long will it take to train a human to carry out the task of invoicing? Well if that human is smart, may be an hour or less. But let's say that it be one day(8 to 5). So we are saying that we coders are dumb!!!! We are taking 10 times the time to code than the time to train!!!! How can that be? Well, a human has a mind which can be trained. Well give the machine a mind. Real Mind, not AM(Artificial Mind).
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The IT segment catering to the latter of the subject, is the ERP segment. Businesses still continued before computers, based on paper, file based manual systems. This comprise a host of activities like invoicing, physical stock,...etc. A typical invoicing program would be in the range of several thousand lines of code, resulting in not less than around 10 man days. Well that is the time it takes to INSTRUCT THE COMPUTER to carry out the invoicing activity. How long will it take to train a human to carry out the task of invoicing? Well if that human is smart, may be an hour or less. But let's say that it be one day(8 to 5). So we are saying that we coders are dumb!!!! We are taking 10 times the time to code than the time to train!!!! How can that be? Well, a human has a mind which can be trained. Well give the machine a mind. Real Mind, not AM(Artificial Mind).
One fundamental difference, though - Humans get fatigued over time, which manifest as human errors over a period of time. Whereas, if the code is properly designed, written and tested, and more importantly, maintained well, errors are near zero.
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The IT segment catering to the latter of the subject, is the ERP segment. Businesses still continued before computers, based on paper, file based manual systems. This comprise a host of activities like invoicing, physical stock,...etc. A typical invoicing program would be in the range of several thousand lines of code, resulting in not less than around 10 man days. Well that is the time it takes to INSTRUCT THE COMPUTER to carry out the invoicing activity. How long will it take to train a human to carry out the task of invoicing? Well if that human is smart, may be an hour or less. But let's say that it be one day(8 to 5). So we are saying that we coders are dumb!!!! We are taking 10 times the time to code than the time to train!!!! How can that be? Well, a human has a mind which can be trained. Well give the machine a mind. Real Mind, not AM(Artificial Mind).
Amitava_Guha wrote:
So we are saying that we coders are dumb!!!! We are taking 10 times the time to code than the time to train!!!! How can that be?
No, we coders are extremely clever. We can take a mindless machine and train it to perform tasks that used to require a mind!
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The IT segment catering to the latter of the subject, is the ERP segment. Businesses still continued before computers, based on paper, file based manual systems. This comprise a host of activities like invoicing, physical stock,...etc. A typical invoicing program would be in the range of several thousand lines of code, resulting in not less than around 10 man days. Well that is the time it takes to INSTRUCT THE COMPUTER to carry out the invoicing activity. How long will it take to train a human to carry out the task of invoicing? Well if that human is smart, may be an hour or less. But let's say that it be one day(8 to 5). So we are saying that we coders are dumb!!!! We are taking 10 times the time to code than the time to train!!!! How can that be? Well, a human has a mind which can be trained. Well give the machine a mind. Real Mind, not AM(Artificial Mind).
The human creating the invoices by hand will do so slowly and make random variable mistakes. The computer creating the invoices will do so very quickly and make very precise mistakes. :)
>64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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The human creating the invoices by hand will do so slowly and make random variable mistakes. The computer creating the invoices will do so very quickly and make very precise mistakes. :)
>64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
To err is human, to really mess up requires a computer.
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To err is human, to really mess up requires a computer.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
to really mess up requires a computer team of software engineers
FTFY
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The IT segment catering to the latter of the subject, is the ERP segment. Businesses still continued before computers, based on paper, file based manual systems. This comprise a host of activities like invoicing, physical stock,...etc. A typical invoicing program would be in the range of several thousand lines of code, resulting in not less than around 10 man days. Well that is the time it takes to INSTRUCT THE COMPUTER to carry out the invoicing activity. How long will it take to train a human to carry out the task of invoicing? Well if that human is smart, may be an hour or less. But let's say that it be one day(8 to 5). So we are saying that we coders are dumb!!!! We are taking 10 times the time to code than the time to train!!!! How can that be? Well, a human has a mind which can be trained. Well give the machine a mind. Real Mind, not AM(Artificial Mind).
Amitava_Guha wrote:
So we are saying that we coders are dumb!!!! We are taking 10 times the time to code than the time to train!!!!
Look at the coding time as training time. Computers are so dumb, they require that much more precise instructions be prepared for them to perform the task.
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The IT segment catering to the latter of the subject, is the ERP segment. Businesses still continued before computers, based on paper, file based manual systems. This comprise a host of activities like invoicing, physical stock,...etc. A typical invoicing program would be in the range of several thousand lines of code, resulting in not less than around 10 man days. Well that is the time it takes to INSTRUCT THE COMPUTER to carry out the invoicing activity. How long will it take to train a human to carry out the task of invoicing? Well if that human is smart, may be an hour or less. But let's say that it be one day(8 to 5). So we are saying that we coders are dumb!!!! We are taking 10 times the time to code than the time to train!!!! How can that be? Well, a human has a mind which can be trained. Well give the machine a mind. Real Mind, not AM(Artificial Mind).
Amitava_Guha wrote:
Well that is the time it takes to INSTRUCT THE COMPUTER
No that is not true. No more so than saying that a light switch powers the light bulb.
Amitava_Guha wrote:
Well if that human is smart, may be an hour or less. But let's say that it be one day(8 to 5).
I can't speak to invoicing but at least at one time it took 4 years at a university and a very difficult test which it was expected and norm that it would take at least two times to pass the test to become a CPA. But I haven't seen any computers showing up at a zoo one month to do an audit of the books and then the next month showing up to do a forensic audit on a bankrupt company. In the same way that a power drills are nice on a construction site but just like a manual drill they don't do anything unless a human uses it.
Amitava_Guha wrote:
Well give the machine a mind.
They have been trying to do that since the 1950s with computers. And they were trying to do it in other ways before that.
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The IT segment catering to the latter of the subject, is the ERP segment. Businesses still continued before computers, based on paper, file based manual systems. This comprise a host of activities like invoicing, physical stock,...etc. A typical invoicing program would be in the range of several thousand lines of code, resulting in not less than around 10 man days. Well that is the time it takes to INSTRUCT THE COMPUTER to carry out the invoicing activity. How long will it take to train a human to carry out the task of invoicing? Well if that human is smart, may be an hour or less. But let's say that it be one day(8 to 5). So we are saying that we coders are dumb!!!! We are taking 10 times the time to code than the time to train!!!! How can that be? Well, a human has a mind which can be trained. Well give the machine a mind. Real Mind, not AM(Artificial Mind).
Oh this is priceless. So my primary American customer has spent 6 figures or more putting hi-res flat screens all over the factory floor to show all the workers their productivity, etc. The best part, they are all so busy working their a$$es off, I've not seen one time where they look up. So, I'm in Mexico with another customer. I ask them about their current production deliverables. Just curious, wondering how orders are going, small chit chat. They take me to a LARGE whiteboard with an electrical tape grid. They just update it daily with a whiteboard marker. At the end of the month, they take a cell phone picture and erase it. Sometimes we over think things. How does everyone share info? 4 times a week, the factory and offices empty for lunch. Everyone has brought food from home. We're looking at a Mexican buffet for 90 minutes. Best office meeting ever.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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The IT segment catering to the latter of the subject, is the ERP segment. Businesses still continued before computers, based on paper, file based manual systems. This comprise a host of activities like invoicing, physical stock,...etc. A typical invoicing program would be in the range of several thousand lines of code, resulting in not less than around 10 man days. Well that is the time it takes to INSTRUCT THE COMPUTER to carry out the invoicing activity. How long will it take to train a human to carry out the task of invoicing? Well if that human is smart, may be an hour or less. But let's say that it be one day(8 to 5). So we are saying that we coders are dumb!!!! We are taking 10 times the time to code than the time to train!!!! How can that be? Well, a human has a mind which can be trained. Well give the machine a mind. Real Mind, not AM(Artificial Mind).
but wait, it gets better :) So customer #2 is only 5 months late in paying invoices. So late that my support from the primary vendor not only lapsed, they said "no more support until $$." Now this stalled a project they really want to complete, so time to actually do their jobs. Technically it's all "computerized." Purchasing just forgot to tell us 3rd parties how to bill them with their new system which (a) they didn't tell us about and (b) never responded to our emails, quotes, invoices, etc. This is why most small and medium sized businesses are nimbler than these huge corporations. Look at MS. As much as really experienced users $itch about this and that, they make it extremely difficult to process real customer feedback.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.