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  • K Kevin Marois

    While I appreciate you taking the time to reply, I'm not sure it answered my post. When I'm in RDS, Copy & Paste doesn't work (Inside RDC, not Host to Remote. Copy text, past, nothing!), and the whole experience is reallllly slow. I've tried multiple 'fixes' over & over, with no luck. so I'm looking for an alternative.

    In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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    dandy72
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    Sorry, I thought you were focusing on multi-monitor support. But, I do tend to stick with mstsc.exe, and generally, copy and paste does work.

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    • K Kevin Marois

      Looking for recommendations here... I'm using Oracle Box VM. When I RDC into it, strange things happen. First, Copy & Paste no longer works. Not Host to Remote, I'm talking about Copy & Paste INSIDE RDC. Select text, copy -> paste - Nothing. It's also REALLY slow. I've tried various things like restarting rdpclip.exe. Still can't copy & paste. If I work through the OracleBox window, everything is fine - except I can only use one monitor. Anyone know of a decent replacement that allows dual monitors? NOTE: I don't want to TOGGLE between monitors, I want full use of both monitors. Thanks

      In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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      Chris Maunder
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      I use [Royal Terminal Services](https://www.royalapps.com/ts/win/features) and have for years. The guy who created this is a CodeProject member and an excellent guy (naturally) to boot.

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      • K Kevin Marois

        Looking for recommendations here... I'm using Oracle Box VM. When I RDC into it, strange things happen. First, Copy & Paste no longer works. Not Host to Remote, I'm talking about Copy & Paste INSIDE RDC. Select text, copy -> paste - Nothing. It's also REALLY slow. I've tried various things like restarting rdpclip.exe. Still can't copy & paste. If I work through the OracleBox window, everything is fine - except I can only use one monitor. Anyone know of a decent replacement that allows dual monitors? NOTE: I don't want to TOGGLE between monitors, I want full use of both monitors. Thanks

        In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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        Nelek
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        I see your copy+paste not working and rise it to copy+paste working across users. I copy something in my session and you can paste it in your session. That was RDC to a Windows Server 2012... really funny :doh: :doh:

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          I see your copy+paste not working and rise it to copy+paste working across users. I copy something in my session and you can paste it in your session. That was RDC to a Windows Server 2012... really funny :doh: :doh:

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          Kevin Marois
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          Not talking about Users or Sessions. Copy & Paste text INSIDE RDC not working

          In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I use [Royal Terminal Services](https://www.royalapps.com/ts/win/features) and have for years. The guy who created this is a CodeProject member and an excellent guy (naturally) to boot.

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            Kevin Marois
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            Thanks!

            In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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            • K Kevin Marois

              Not talking about Users or Sessions. Copy & Paste text INSIDE RDC not working

              In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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              pibbur
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              I use Multiplicity from Stardock, but it only works with windows. It works either by extending your desktop, or as a regular remote desktop connection (very fast compared to mstsc).

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              • K Kevin Marois

                Looking for recommendations here... I'm using Oracle Box VM. When I RDC into it, strange things happen. First, Copy & Paste no longer works. Not Host to Remote, I'm talking about Copy & Paste INSIDE RDC. Select text, copy -> paste - Nothing. It's also REALLY slow. I've tried various things like restarting rdpclip.exe. Still can't copy & paste. If I work through the OracleBox window, everything is fine - except I can only use one monitor. Anyone know of a decent replacement that allows dual monitors? NOTE: I don't want to TOGGLE between monitors, I want full use of both monitors. Thanks

                In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                Clumpco
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                I can recommend mRemoteNG which is a multi-protocol, multi-tab remote client for RDP, SSH, VNC etc. The current release is quite old, but there are some betas about - results may vary. Development appears to be in transition, but it works so well that a few quirks are acceptable (e.g. latest beta requires a click in the window to set focus when changing tabs on SSH connections). Choosing Redirects is easy and includes the clipboard (works perfectly in the same tab, between tabs and between host and client).

                So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8

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                  I can recommend mRemoteNG which is a multi-protocol, multi-tab remote client for RDP, SSH, VNC etc. The current release is quite old, but there are some betas about - results may vary. Development appears to be in transition, but it works so well that a few quirks are acceptable (e.g. latest beta requires a click in the window to set focus when changing tabs on SSH connections). Choosing Redirects is easy and includes the clipboard (works perfectly in the same tab, between tabs and between host and client).

                  So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8

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                  Norm Powroz
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                  Clumpco wrote:

                  So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8

                  Totally off the topic at hand (my apologies). I just had to reply after seeing this tagline. It took me back to my high school days when I was doing exactly the same thing. Toggle switches, RIM loader, BIN loader, yay!

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                  • K Kevin Marois

                    Looking for recommendations here... I'm using Oracle Box VM. When I RDC into it, strange things happen. First, Copy & Paste no longer works. Not Host to Remote, I'm talking about Copy & Paste INSIDE RDC. Select text, copy -> paste - Nothing. It's also REALLY slow. I've tried various things like restarting rdpclip.exe. Still can't copy & paste. If I work through the OracleBox window, everything is fine - except I can only use one monitor. Anyone know of a decent replacement that allows dual monitors? NOTE: I don't want to TOGGLE between monitors, I want full use of both monitors. Thanks

                    In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                    jschell
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                    To me I see two parts to the problem and responses only seem to focus on one part. The parts - Oracle Box VM - RDC I presume you are running the VM locally. Not having used VMWare for a very long time I would also wonder what you might have going on in it. So you might want to try a completely different and minimal build. Along with verifying how memory is being mapped. (I can suppose everything is going to be slow if memory in the VM is low.) Then you might also try using RDC with something completely different also. Also locally. After localizing the problem to one of those then you could start looking for a solution.

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                    • K Kevin Marois

                      Looking for recommendations here... I'm using Oracle Box VM. When I RDC into it, strange things happen. First, Copy & Paste no longer works. Not Host to Remote, I'm talking about Copy & Paste INSIDE RDC. Select text, copy -> paste - Nothing. It's also REALLY slow. I've tried various things like restarting rdpclip.exe. Still can't copy & paste. If I work through the OracleBox window, everything is fine - except I can only use one monitor. Anyone know of a decent replacement that allows dual monitors? NOTE: I don't want to TOGGLE between monitors, I want full use of both monitors. Thanks

                      In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                      Ralf Quint
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                      Specially for inhouse connections between Windows machines, I am using TightVNC for years now. Pretty fast and I do work on a lot of headless machines, including constant copy&paste (both text as well as files) all day long. Also including about half a dozen VMs (mostly older Windows XP/7 hosts for software that doesn't exist or is retarded on newer versions of Windows)...

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        Looking for recommendations here... I'm using Oracle Box VM. When I RDC into it, strange things happen. First, Copy & Paste no longer works. Not Host to Remote, I'm talking about Copy & Paste INSIDE RDC. Select text, copy -> paste - Nothing. It's also REALLY slow. I've tried various things like restarting rdpclip.exe. Still can't copy & paste. If I work through the OracleBox window, everything is fine - except I can only use one monitor. Anyone know of a decent replacement that allows dual monitors? NOTE: I don't want to TOGGLE between monitors, I want full use of both monitors. Thanks

                        In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                        TheBugman
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                        I read your question and I remember that this happened to me, but I could not remember how I fixed it. I went to lunch and voila, I remembered. After I reinstalled both the client machine and the machine I was remoting to, I decided this was not a Windows issue. Trust me, I tried everything I could try. I tested another keyboard on the local machine, and that fixed the problem. Does it make sense, no. Did it work, yes! Good luck!

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                        • K Kevin Marois

                          Looking for recommendations here... I'm using Oracle Box VM. When I RDC into it, strange things happen. First, Copy & Paste no longer works. Not Host to Remote, I'm talking about Copy & Paste INSIDE RDC. Select text, copy -> paste - Nothing. It's also REALLY slow. I've tried various things like restarting rdpclip.exe. Still can't copy & paste. If I work through the OracleBox window, everything is fine - except I can only use one monitor. Anyone know of a decent replacement that allows dual monitors? NOTE: I don't want to TOGGLE between monitors, I want full use of both monitors. Thanks

                          In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                          Clumpco
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                          I have just re-read your initial post and realised that I hadn't noticed the fateful words "Oracle VirtualBox". This piece of s**tware will update itself and then totally forget to mention that you need to manually update the Extension Pack which needs to be installed and kept updated on the hosted VM. In the past this has led me to lost shared drives, weird mouse behaviour, etc.

                          So old that I did my first coding in octal via switches on a DEC PDP 8

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                          • D David Crow

                            I use RDC on a dual-monitor Windows 10 system (left monitor) to connect to a single-monitor Windows 7 system (right monitor). I can copy & paste between the two. Your experience is different, though, correct?

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                            LucidDev
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                            I have the exact same configuration and all is working fine.

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                            • K Kevin Marois

                              Looking for recommendations here... I'm using Oracle Box VM. When I RDC into it, strange things happen. First, Copy & Paste no longer works. Not Host to Remote, I'm talking about Copy & Paste INSIDE RDC. Select text, copy -> paste - Nothing. It's also REALLY slow. I've tried various things like restarting rdpclip.exe. Still can't copy & paste. If I work through the OracleBox window, everything is fine - except I can only use one monitor. Anyone know of a decent replacement that allows dual monitors? NOTE: I don't want to TOGGLE between monitors, I want full use of both monitors. Thanks

                              In theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice, they never are.” If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind.

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                              rjmoses
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                              I use 3 computers/3 28" monitors--Left-Middle-Right All three run Startdock's Multiplicity which allows me to use one keyboard/mouse for all three computers. Left and Right are Multiplicity clients, Middle is Multiplicity master. Left (4 core CPU/16 GB) serves as a mail and file server (NAS type server) plus run either Xming or Cygwin X windows connection. Left is also used for Firefox/Chrome internet connection for information lookup. Middle (12 core cpu/32 GB) run one RDC connection plus an optional XMing/Cygwin X windows connection. Middle is also used for word processing. Middle also can run Oracle Virtual box for testing new Linux configurations/distros. Right (8 core/16 GB) runs Virtualbox for main Linux development. All 3 use 256 GB SSD's plus one 1 TB HDD for system backups. Right (the main VB development system) also runs a 512 GB SSD for Linux VB systems. I also have one standby system for emergency of specialized testing. System SSD's (Windows 10) are cloned about every 2-3 weeks onto a rotational SSD.

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