Microsoft, do you know how many people are complaining?
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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I have Win11 & Win10 machines and use them both for different things, I also use(d) Office XP (with an update to open docx & xlsx). I got into the habit of using them (also my Mum, not very technical!) could use it fine. One day Win11 updates and bang splat it stops working, it will open and you can view the document touch any key, click any mouse button and it closes. Why? So I have to conned into an Orfice365 subscription (I did try OpenOffice but had issues).
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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At first I thought you were describing exactly the scenario my neighbor had come across, but not quite it. In his case, one morning, his Windows 10 lock screen randomly decided he needed to swipe from bottom to top before the login textbox would show up, which is a thing MS introduced, I believe, starting with Windows 8. Worse, his laptop didn't have a touch screen, so I had to teach him how to do the swipe motion by dragging the mouse, with the left button depressed, from the bottom up. He had never seen this before, nor has he ever since.
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At first I thought you were describing exactly the scenario my neighbor had come across, but not quite it. In his case, one morning, his Windows 10 lock screen randomly decided he needed to swipe from bottom to top before the login textbox would show up, which is a thing MS introduced, I believe, starting with Windows 8. Worse, his laptop didn't have a touch screen, so I had to teach him how to do the swipe motion by dragging the mouse, with the left button depressed, from the bottom up. He had never seen this before, nor has he ever since.
switch to linux and install winblows in a vm
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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switch to linux and (if you really need it) install winblows in a vm
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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yes MS kind of sucks. What Jsop said. Has anyone ever been able to get thru and talk to MS? I mean in all seriousness. Other comments in queue. For those that use Linux and find LibreOffice missing some things. Try WPS office. It solved many of the issues that I had with some microsoft integration for excel spreadsheets. WPS worked better than excel. Seriously though. Linux is the way to go. If you are slight scared linux mint just works and seems like Windows alot. Last point. IF you are going to run windows. You have to reboot your computer at least once a week or soo. Just has to be done.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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Happens a lot lately with our work laptops. They want to talk to the AD long before the VPN is available. Putting it into airplane mode before sleeping helps us. Is there any nice security sw installed, like Trend Micro suite? Never happens with my private W10Pro or W11Pro. Swipe to unlock is there since ages. Swipe, double click or press a key.
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switch to linux and (if you really need it) install winblows in a vm
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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Microsoft doesn't really exist. They stopped being a cohesive company decades ago. This is why the Office team can come up with a "feature" and compromise the entire operating system with a security hole. Based on what I have seen of Windows 11, about 50% of the company simply lies about features. They do not give a flip about complaints. Microsoft will not change until they are held liable. When that happens - hell will freeze over, pigs will be flying everywhere, and I have a few other things to say but I don't want to say them :)
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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Got off that boat 4 years ago... Never looked back. (except when using client's hardware)
Christian Lavigne
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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I suggest you fix the problem by accidentally spilling the coffee on the keyboard. You will then buy a new laptop with Windows 11 pre-installed~ ;)
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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This is the most entitled thing I have read in a long time.
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switch to linux and (if you really need it) install winblows in a vm
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013But doesn't that mean you go from Win11 quirks to Win11 + VM manager quirks + Ubuntu quirks? No OS is perfect (...waits until the clamour dies down) so I'm always a fan of minimising your Quirk Surface Area.
cheers Chris Maunder
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switch to linux and (if you really need it) install winblows in a vm
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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switch to linux and (if you really need it) install winblows in a vm
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013In two long periods (6+ months each), I have had a machine sitting there with Linux read for use, with replacements for my essential Windows tools installed. But every time I tried to use the Linux tools, I was getting frustrated like h*ll. These "free and open" tools are made by people who never worked with them. They have no idea about how you work when editing music; they have just worked their way down a checklist of functions they must implement to claim that nothing is missing in their tool. Except real usability. Same with CD/DVD authoring (which was relevant at the time I tried to go Linux): The number of moves to do the familiar operations were much higher, and did not "feel right". But it had all the check marks in the list. Document editing also had all the check marks. But it didn't have the operations where they felt natural. The help function was a (poor) joke. And it was more insistent on it being The Right Answer than Microsoft Edge is about being The Right Browser. (Well, that applies to the entire Linux crowd, although with varying intensity.) At work, I have been required to use Linux based development environments. Coming home to VS has been felt as a relief. All my major tools have much better implementations on the Windows side. With two machines side by side for long periods of time, I never "voluntarily" chose the Linux alternative. (I had to learn the Linux tools to judge them against the Windows ones; that does not count as "voluntary".) The Linux machine did have some tools that were not available on the Windows machine (to a large degree, today they are), so there were things I would have to do on Linux - if I had to do them at all. I did not. I will give Linux a third opportunity the day that I find myself in need of some tool that is not available on Windows. Experience has taught me not to hold my breath. My guess is that I will be getting an ARM-based Windows machine before I get a Linux machine. At the time, there are no ARM alternatives suiting my needs, but lots will happen in that market in the next year or two. Maybe, the day I get myself a desktop Windows ARM, I will also set up a file server common to my old machine and the new ARM. Chances are that the file server would be running Linux, which is perfectly fine. Linux is great for lots of backend server uses. As long as I can use tools on the Windows front ends created by people who have (at least) as much expertise in the application domain as in the latest C++ extensions.
Religi
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Well, I came here for a MS rant but found I'm at the back of the queue... So I run Win10 on a laptop. I very rarely reboot (because when I start the PC up, it's cos I want to use it, not have it sit there for 4 hours doing a reboot). So I just "sleep" by closing the lid. Until a few days ago, I "woke up" by opening the lid, waiting about 5 seconds, and hitting any key (or clicking the mouse) would give me the login prompt for my password. Then one day it didn't. Just the standard windows background. I hit various keys, gave the mouse a good workout, waited... and waited. Eventually I gave up and hit Ctrl-Alt-Del in case; and that brought up the login screen. Since then, I've had to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del every time. And, as far as I'm aware, there's been no updates applied. This is particularly galling as, due to a dodgy keyboard on the laptop, I usually have the numeric keypad in "numeric" mode (as the zero on my main keyboard rarely works). But as there's no "NumLock" light (thanks, Dell!) I have to try twice a lot of the time. And I can't do it single-handed (I often have a cup of coffee in the other hand). I wonder, has anyone actually told MS that their software is a pile of doo-doo?
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I want a Windows that satisfies MY preferences and needs! To h**l with other users and requests - listen to me, Microsoft! Maybe the solution is to switch to Linux. That is a place where everyone can have everything his (or her) way. Any developer has the moral right to make a user interface exactly the way (S)HE pleases. Make yet another (Too) Simple Something Protocol. Maybe even making ones own Linux distro! With Linux, you can roll your own, ignoring all other requests and needs. That is a Developer's Heaven!
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I want a Windows that satisfies MY preferences and needs! To h**l with other users and requests - listen to me, Microsoft! Maybe the solution is to switch to Linux. That is a place where everyone can have everything his (or her) way. Any developer has the moral right to make a user interface exactly the way (S)HE pleases. Make yet another (Too) Simple Something Protocol. Maybe even making ones own Linux distro! With Linux, you can roll your own, ignoring all other requests and needs. That is a Developer's Heaven!
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
No, I don't especially care how you unlock the lock screen. What irks me is that having worked one way on this machine for several years, at some arbitrary point, without explanation or instruction or explicit "update", Windows suddenly changes its behaviour. Imagine you got in your car one day and, having turned the ignition switch and depressed the clutch, the engine refused to start - unlike every other time you had ever started your car. After much experimentation (there being NO instruction provided) you found you had to do that at the same time as turning the heating to full and indicating left.
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