STOOPID PRINTER
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Yes, I did the same thing for a couple of years but it was cumbersome to start computer, start VM, copy scanned document from VM to network.... In the end I found a newer Canon in rebate and replaced the old one. The old printer was still working great over the network and I tried to give it for free but everyone who seemed interested was asking if it has Wifi. No one seemed to want a printer with only a LAN interface. In the end I had to dump it at a recycle centre... kids these days! :rolleyes:
Mircea
Mircea Neacsu wrote:
Yes, I did the same thing for a couple of years but it was cumbersome to start computer, start VM, copy scanned document from VM to network.... In the end I found a newer Canon in rebate and replaced the old one.
Of course... it is not practical, but my father scans maybe once a year and I configured the output folder of the scanner already as a shared, so no need to copy from A to B. But yes. I wouldn't do that myself. I do scan almost every important document. Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Mircea Neacsu wrote:
Yes, I did the same thing for a couple of years but it was cumbersome to start computer, start VM, copy scanned document from VM to network.... In the end I found a newer Canon in rebate and replaced the old one.
Of course... it is not practical, but my father scans maybe once a year and I configured the output folder of the scanner already as a shared, so no need to copy from A to B. But yes. I wouldn't do that myself. I do scan almost every important document. Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
Nelek wrote:
Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
Reminds me of an old joke: Employee: Can we destroy these old documents? Boss: Sure, but first make a copy! Me, I'm aiming for a paperless house. Didn't happen yet but I'm on the right path.
Mircea
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Nelek wrote:
Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
Reminds me of an old joke: Employee: Can we destroy these old documents? Boss: Sure, but first make a copy! Me, I'm aiming for a paperless house. Didn't happen yet but I'm on the right path.
Mircea
I live in a country where the agencies still use fax. :~ Just want to be sure I can make them understand me in case of need.
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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If you only print 'rarely' I see only one solution: remove printer cartridges after printing and vacuum them :(
0x01AA wrote:
remove printer cartridges after printing and vacuum them
AKA "buy a new set of cartridges every time you need to print something". This is practically what I've been doing with this printer, well, not Day One, but "Day on which I needed to print a second time". Until it decided that even with new cartridges, it's gonna put up this new error message.
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I hate everything mechanical that you connect to a computer. Especially something that has as many mechanical parts as a printer. I only have 2 sentences written and already I'm feeling a long rant coming up. I could go in so many directions. But I'll try to keep it short. I've wasted enough time and money on this printer that randomly chooses to display this error that just tells you to send the printer back to the manufacturer. Looking up the error suggests that, despite this, the error "might" go away on its own just by replacing the ink cartridges. Obviously, it's an ink-jet printer. I despise them. The ink always dries up long before I'm ready to print. Last time I printed anything (just a few pages), the cartridges were brand new. This weekend, the cartridges, a transparent plastic container, all show more than 80% of the ink is gone. I replaced them with my last spares, still in a shrink-wrap. The printer still shows the same error. This is not the first time this happens. I've had enough. The replacement (printer, that is, not cartridges) is coming from Amazon this week. Once that one is set up and prints, I'm going full Office Space on this one.
Any particular reason you're still using a printer? We in tech should be driving changes and well, we should all be paperless by now. Some times it can't be avoided. Some industries refuse to move forward... like the medical industry still requiring a fax (from different parties besides yourself). But, by and large, printers should be a relic of the past for most of us.
Jeremy Falcon
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Any particular reason you're still using a printer? We in tech should be driving changes and well, we should all be paperless by now. Some times it can't be avoided. Some industries refuse to move forward... like the medical industry still requiring a fax (from different parties besides yourself). But, by and large, printers should be a relic of the past for most of us.
Jeremy Falcon
Someone, I forget where, recently posted a rant about--not the promised paperless office--but those who keep pushing that decades-old lie. There will always be a need to have something printed. In my case, picture a pile of identical, plain white, inkjet printable CDs and/or DVDs. The alternative is writing on them with Sharpies.
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Someone, I forget where, recently posted a rant about--not the promised paperless office--but those who keep pushing that decades-old lie. There will always be a need to have something printed. In my case, picture a pile of identical, plain white, inkjet printable CDs and/or DVDs. The alternative is writing on them with Sharpies.
dandy72 wrote:
There will always be a need to have something printed
If everyone thought that way, we'd still be living in caves. Is there a specific reason you think this to be true or is this just a thing you think will continue because that's just the way you've done it? There are document types that can and do completely replace paper. So, there is no technical reason. Having a "hard copy" isn't really better than a back up. It has a worse filing mechanism. Can't be searched, etc. There are way more pitfalls with paper documents than going paperless.
dandy72 wrote:
In my case, picture a pile of identical, plain white, inkjet printable CDs and/or DVDs. The alternative is writing on them with Sharpies.
You mean printing DVD labels? I never seen an inkjet printer print actual DVD discs. :laugh: From a label stand point, I can see the rationale. But, I'm willing to bet that will be phased out too. You already see that with crypto wallets and LED displays on them. No reason the future "DVDs" can't have something similar. Sure, we're not there yet, but the future is coming and paper is the past for the most part.
Jeremy Falcon
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k5054 wrote:
Back in the day, HP knew how to build stuff that lasted,
They certainly did: not long ago I had to part ways with my LaserJet 6MP after almost 30 years of faithful service. Along the way I started to use Canon MF printers (last one is also colour) and they aren't too bad either. However the previous Canon I had to let go because there were no scanner drivers for anything newer then Windows XP :sigh:.
Mircea
I abandoned scanners as well - my phone has a "document mode" which does a good job of correcting parallax. Wouldn't be suitable for bulk work, but I scan individual documents only these days - like when some strange individual sends me a paper cheque and I have to pay it in ... fortunately, my bank is more up to date than them! :D
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k5054 wrote:
Back in the day, HP knew how to build stuff that lasted, and didn't annoy the customers.
I have a LaserJet 4350 or some-such model, big office printer with all the accessories, that nobody wanted when the last place I worked at shut down. I don't use it much, but it *is* still working great, and it's got to be at least 20 years old by now (my previous employer had it for a few years, and the place shut down in 2007). (That's not the problematic printer, obviously)
Yep - mine is a Xerox VersaLink C400 office beast. I suspect the previous owners replaced it because they looked at the price of genuine toner cartridges and went :WTF: - £528! We'll dump it and buy a new one for that! I got aftermarkets for £40 the set.
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Believe me, I have a laser. Two, in fact. The problem with lasers is that they don't print on discs (it's a long story, don't ask). And I'm not gonna on print on CD labels. But at least with the lasers, I never have toner problem, even if I might only print a page once every 3 months (and yes, that is representative of my use).
Discs? How the heck did you interface the player?[^] :laugh:
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I hate everything mechanical that you connect to a computer. Especially something that has as many mechanical parts as a printer. I only have 2 sentences written and already I'm feeling a long rant coming up. I could go in so many directions. But I'll try to keep it short. I've wasted enough time and money on this printer that randomly chooses to display this error that just tells you to send the printer back to the manufacturer. Looking up the error suggests that, despite this, the error "might" go away on its own just by replacing the ink cartridges. Obviously, it's an ink-jet printer. I despise them. The ink always dries up long before I'm ready to print. Last time I printed anything (just a few pages), the cartridges were brand new. This weekend, the cartridges, a transparent plastic container, all show more than 80% of the ink is gone. I replaced them with my last spares, still in a shrink-wrap. The printer still shows the same error. This is not the first time this happens. I've had enough. The replacement (printer, that is, not cartridges) is coming from Amazon this week. Once that one is set up and prints, I'm going full Office Space on this one.
Agreed with most others, laser is the way to go. I have an HP MFP 477fdw. Prints colour, both sides, cheap to buy and cheap to run so long as you buy 3rd party toner (HP stuff is 3 times the price of the printer!). It also scans (double sided), photocopies and would fax too if it were connected. Connects by USB, Ethernet or WiFi and I can print to it from my iPhone.
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k5054 wrote:
Back in the day, HP knew how to build stuff that lasted,
They certainly did: not long ago I had to part ways with my LaserJet 6MP after almost 30 years of faithful service. Along the way I started to use Canon MF printers (last one is also colour) and they aren't too bad either. However the previous Canon I had to let go because there were no scanner drivers for anything newer then Windows XP :sigh:.
Mircea
HP wasn't keen to update the drivers, too. Fortunately their low-end was language compatible with some higher tiers, so we printed on a LJ1010 on W7 64 bit with first paper in 40 secs, 5 secs pause between pages :~ MS kicked them when they denied drivers for W10, making themselves a few, then HP cached up - 2 years after W10 launch. Looks like the Samsung merger injected HP with some long needed customer service viewpoint.
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I hate everything mechanical that you connect to a computer. Especially something that has as many mechanical parts as a printer. I only have 2 sentences written and already I'm feeling a long rant coming up. I could go in so many directions. But I'll try to keep it short. I've wasted enough time and money on this printer that randomly chooses to display this error that just tells you to send the printer back to the manufacturer. Looking up the error suggests that, despite this, the error "might" go away on its own just by replacing the ink cartridges. Obviously, it's an ink-jet printer. I despise them. The ink always dries up long before I'm ready to print. Last time I printed anything (just a few pages), the cartridges were brand new. This weekend, the cartridges, a transparent plastic container, all show more than 80% of the ink is gone. I replaced them with my last spares, still in a shrink-wrap. The printer still shows the same error. This is not the first time this happens. I've had enough. The replacement (printer, that is, not cartridges) is coming from Amazon this week. Once that one is set up and prints, I'm going full Office Space on this one.
https://www.brother-usa.com/products/hll2400d laser, duplex, fast reliable. I have an older model. No regrets.
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Throw it in the :elephant:ing recycle bin, and get a laser. It sits there in low power standby all the time. I print, it grabs paper and prints, then goes back to low-power standby. No ink to evaporate, no Epson date-chip expiry, no spending half an hour trying to get enough print lines working to get a recognisable image ... This is my second laser, and I got it second hand, three years old, still on it's original cartridges (which were low) from eBay for £50. It prints double sided at 16 ppm, single sided at 36ppm (Black and white) or colour at 32 ppm and holds over a ream of paper. A set of aftermarket cartridges cost me £40 six months ago and I still haven't even opened them yet ... :-D Only drawback is size: it's pretty big compared to an inkjet.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Throw it in the [mastadon] ing recycle bin, and get a laser.
ABSOLUTELY!!! I figure I use up half the ink in cartridges cleaning the heads. Last time I needed to replace cartridges, I bit the bullet and purchased a Brother color multi-function laser that duplexes. It's given me ZERO problems. It cost me more than I wanted to pay, but the lack of frustration and irritation is worth it.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Throw it in the [mastadon] ing recycle bin, and get a laser.
ABSOLUTELY!!! I figure I use up half the ink in cartridges cleaning the heads. Last time I needed to replace cartridges, I bit the bullet and purchased a Brother color multi-function laser that duplexes. It's given me ZERO problems. It cost me more than I wanted to pay, but the lack of frustration and irritation is worth it.
BryanFazekas wrote:
It cost me more than I wanted to pay, but the lack of frustration and irritation is worth it.
Not only that, but you don't waste huge amounts of time trying to get it printing: turn on, print, turn off. I don't know what you time is worth, but it adds up quickly while swearing at inkjets and can easily make the laser more cost effective. even in the short term. Not to mention lasers generally have higher PPM than inkjets so you aren't standing there twiddling your thumbs while it gets ready to paper jam itself ... :laugh:
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Nelek wrote:
Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
Reminds me of an old joke: Employee: Can we destroy these old documents? Boss: Sure, but first make a copy! Me, I'm aiming for a paperless house. Didn't happen yet but I'm on the right path.
Mircea
Have you been talking to my office manager and accountant?
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Discs? How the heck did you interface the player?[^] :laugh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
:-) I can't tell whether you've ever seen these or not. The printer comes with a plastic tray (hopefully [this link](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KIMAAOSwyltZP7YN/s-l1600.webp) works) that you sit the CD on, then slide into a slot in the printer. *When* it works - the results are quite remarkable. I've scanned, then printed, some discs and would have a really hard time telling which is the original and which is the copy, unless you can compare both side-by-side (and even then it might fool some people).
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dandy72 wrote:
There will always be a need to have something printed
If everyone thought that way, we'd still be living in caves. Is there a specific reason you think this to be true or is this just a thing you think will continue because that's just the way you've done it? There are document types that can and do completely replace paper. So, there is no technical reason. Having a "hard copy" isn't really better than a back up. It has a worse filing mechanism. Can't be searched, etc. There are way more pitfalls with paper documents than going paperless.
dandy72 wrote:
In my case, picture a pile of identical, plain white, inkjet printable CDs and/or DVDs. The alternative is writing on them with Sharpies.
You mean printing DVD labels? I never seen an inkjet printer print actual DVD discs. :laugh: From a label stand point, I can see the rationale. But, I'm willing to bet that will be phased out too. You already see that with crypto wallets and LED displays on them. No reason the future "DVDs" can't have something similar. Sure, we're not there yet, but the future is coming and paper is the past for the most part.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Is there a specific reason you think this to be true or is this just a thing you think will continue because that's just the way you've done it?
You're wording it like I'm to blame by perpetuating the problem. I guarantee you, I don't yield that much power. I don't get to make up the rules, it doesn't matter what I think. Numerous articles have been written on the topic. I completely understand what you're saying and I *wish* it were true, but I just don't see it happening in my lifetime. I've certainly reduced the amount of paper I have to deal with - I did complain, somewhere else in this thread, that I do so little printing myself that ink cartridges dry up long before I have time to use them. Besides, in the end, I was talking about printing on discs, not keeping a document in electronic format to save paper. Like I said, the alternative is either a Sharpie, or...not identify the content of a disc at all? Good luck dealing with a pile of those. :)
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I never seen an inkjet printer print actual DVD discs
I have, numerous times, and I have some discs that are nearly indistinguishable from the original (unless you hold them up side-by-side). [This](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KIMAAOSwyltZP7YN/s-l1600.webp) is what the typical tray looks like. You slide that into a slot in the printer. [This](https://youtu.be/vNT3SW4X1-4?t=131) is what the process looks like (that's not my specific printer, but the idea is the same).
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
From a label stand point, I can see the rationale.
If you don't manage to place a label exactly right on the first attempt, the disc will vibrate and spin out of balance, and you can't take it off and try to realign it. Plus, they tend to wrinkle with time and humidity, develop air bubbles, tear, rip, etc - they're a mess and look totally unprofessional.
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Agreed with most others, laser is the way to go. I have an HP MFP 477fdw. Prints colour, both sides, cheap to buy and cheap to run so long as you buy 3rd party toner (HP stuff is 3 times the price of the printer!). It also scans (double sided), photocopies and would fax too if it were connected. Connects by USB, Ethernet or WiFi and I can print to it from my iPhone.
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https://www.brother-usa.com/products/hll2400d laser, duplex, fast reliable. I have an older model. No regrets.
Perhaps I should've mentioned that the only reason I still have this (or any) ink-jet printer is that I still have the occasional need to print on discs (CDs, DVDS, etc). Lasers can't do that. I wish they did. Labels are non-contenders, they only create a mess and look completely amateurish.
