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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Throw it in the :elephant:ing recycle bin, and get a laser. It sits there in low power standby all the time. I print, it grabs paper and prints, then goes back to low-power standby. No ink to evaporate, no Epson date-chip expiry, no spending half an hour trying to get enough print lines working to get a recognisable image ... This is my second laser, and I got it second hand, three years old, still on it's original cartridges (which were low) from eBay for £50. It prints double sided at 16 ppm, single sided at 36ppm (Black and white) or colour at 32 ppm and holds over a ream of paper. A set of aftermarket cartridges cost me £40 six months ago and I still haven't even opened them yet ... :-D Only drawback is size: it's pretty big compared to an inkjet.

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    Alister Morton
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    Only reason we have inkjet(s) is for photo printing. Lasers are great for documents, nothing beats them, but not so great for photographs. It's not always convenient to wait for a print shop to turn your prints around.

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    • J Jalapeno Bob

      I am a big fan of Epson EcoTank ink jet printers. I currently have an ET-2850, which I use almost daily. No ink cartridges. You connect an ink bottle for each of the four inks and fill each reservoir; no muss, no fuss. Replacement bottles are inexpensive: you can get them at Office Max, Office Depot, Staples, and occasionally, Wal-Mart.

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      dandy72
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      Can it print directly on discs, such as [these](https://www.amazon.ca/Verbatim-Printable-Recordable-100-Disc-95252/dp/B000YTM4XS/ref=sr\_1\_1?crid=341Z73WTK9P08&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.UwHW42SrxwZxHbALJDQhsgE6BlJIwciJEYlTieo04aZ8pQsCnbwUxH4jgMV0x6QD0kt7pBQTp6lEEHbKwIfPB-anYv0JgtUak3HAE67zCrd4uqmvPFOMvYyvewphyKOCUCoG5ssQpLnDk-xtj4OUEQ53MDwKwJHlJjCQPRWeZhGgVB9uABqKsAngjIqDGyquZK38i4LWSAkTc2P9itna4X81MH31eUfb0OE6KxFMwScEIyfqNhq\_dZ54g1HPz-ajrIbczVYYV1p4JPj9XBabaUM4K\_U\_Qp\_EKERYLkCTPSM.WqtRWK6MEmYJ1ZK56vHYJkhRUc7pD7pu03uU9UtpM4U&dib\_tag=se&keywords=ink+jet+printable+cdr+blank+discs&qid=1717598115&sprefix=blank+ink-jet+printable+%2Caps%2C389&sr=8-1)? That's the only reason I still have an ink-jet.

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      • S SeattleC

        Laser printers are a better deal nowadays than inkjet printers unless you need photo-quality full-color prints. Even then, color laser printers are pretty good for things like posters and charts. Laser toner doesn't dry out if you use it infrequently (because it's already dry). It's only a bit more expensive than an inkjet cartridge and prints many more pages. I'll never buy another inkjet printer. My Brother MFC-L2717DW b&w laser printer only cost around $200 and has been utterly reliable for two plus years now.

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        dandy72
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        I already have 2 lasers - one B&W, one color, that I paid $100 for a decade ago. For the color one, I'm still on the "starter" toner cartridges. I wouldn't own an inkjet if not for the fact that lasers can't print on CDs/DVDs.

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        • D DerekT P

          yep, never understand the point of a wireless printer. You going to carry it around with you? Much simpler to just plug the ethernet cable into the back of your wireless router and have done with it. It's not even like it's battery powered and you could print sitting by the pool (or the recycling bins...) I have one (wireless) but the first thing I did was plug it in... :laugh:

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          dandy72
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          I'm the guy who will *always* choose to run a cable over trying to set something up wirelessly, especially if I expect a reliable connection 24/7. That being said, running a cable to it is not always convenient. I so rarely print (and I already have enough stuff on my desk), I'm okay with actually placing the printer in the next room, even if it means having to get up to power it on when I do need it. Bonus: One fewer USB cable to the machine on my desk. One fewer power cable going to my UPS.

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            I'm the guy who will *always* choose to run a cable over trying to set something up wirelessly, especially if I expect a reliable connection 24/7. That being said, running a cable to it is not always convenient. I so rarely print (and I already have enough stuff on my desk), I'm okay with actually placing the printer in the next room, even if it means having to get up to power it on when I do need it. Bonus: One fewer USB cable to the machine on my desk. One fewer power cable going to my UPS.

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            DerekT P
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            A-ha... I do it over ethernet via a spare port on the router, which is not in the office anyway. In fact I could even do it via the mains, as I already send network over the mains to a wifi repeater anyway. Doing it over the network rather than USB means any device in the house can print from anywhere.

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              A-ha... I do it over ethernet via a spare port on the router, which is not in the office anyway. In fact I could even do it via the mains, as I already send network over the mains to a wifi repeater anyway. Doing it over the network rather than USB means any device in the house can print from anywhere.

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              dandy72
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              USB or Ethernet - I meant it interchangeably. Wifi can easily reach the printer in the next room; any type of cable - not so much.

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                I hate everything mechanical that you connect to a computer. Especially something that has as many mechanical parts as a printer. I only have 2 sentences written and already I'm feeling a long rant coming up. I could go in so many directions. But I'll try to keep it short. I've wasted enough time and money on this printer that randomly chooses to display this error that just tells you to send the printer back to the manufacturer. Looking up the error suggests that, despite this, the error "might" go away on its own just by replacing the ink cartridges. Obviously, it's an ink-jet printer. I despise them. The ink always dries up long before I'm ready to print. Last time I printed anything (just a few pages), the cartridges were brand new. This weekend, the cartridges, a transparent plastic container, all show more than 80% of the ink is gone. I replaced them with my last spares, still in a shrink-wrap. The printer still shows the same error. This is not the first time this happens. I've had enough. The replacement (printer, that is, not cartridges) is coming from Amazon this week. Once that one is set up and prints, I'm going full Office Space on this one.

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                Julian Ragan
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                I have had similar problems with my ink printers, finally bought the cheapest laser black and white printer (cheapest by cost per page with aftermarket toner and drums). If I really need a color printout I can always go to a print shop and pay for one. And for about 15 years I have never really needed a color printout. Except for the first one that died by high voltage surge caused lightning strike on neighbor's house i had no problems with printers ever again.

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                  Can it print directly on discs, such as [these](https://www.amazon.ca/Verbatim-Printable-Recordable-100-Disc-95252/dp/B000YTM4XS/ref=sr\_1\_1?crid=341Z73WTK9P08&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.UwHW42SrxwZxHbALJDQhsgE6BlJIwciJEYlTieo04aZ8pQsCnbwUxH4jgMV0x6QD0kt7pBQTp6lEEHbKwIfPB-anYv0JgtUak3HAE67zCrd4uqmvPFOMvYyvewphyKOCUCoG5ssQpLnDk-xtj4OUEQ53MDwKwJHlJjCQPRWeZhGgVB9uABqKsAngjIqDGyquZK38i4LWSAkTc2P9itna4X81MH31eUfb0OE6KxFMwScEIyfqNhq\_dZ54g1HPz-ajrIbczVYYV1p4JPj9XBabaUM4K\_U\_Qp\_EKERYLkCTPSM.WqtRWK6MEmYJ1ZK56vHYJkhRUc7pD7pu03uU9UtpM4U&dib\_tag=se&keywords=ink+jet+printable+cdr+blank+discs&qid=1717598115&sprefix=blank+ink-jet+printable+%2Caps%2C389&sr=8-1)? That's the only reason I still have an ink-jet.

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                  Jalapeno Bob
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                  Honestly, I never thought about printing directly on disks. When I cut a disk, I print on a label sheet, including the title and a brief list of contents, then apply the label to the disk afterward.

                  __________________ Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now. © 2009, Rex Hammock

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                    Honestly, I never thought about printing directly on disks. When I cut a disk, I print on a label sheet, including the title and a brief list of contents, then apply the label to the disk afterward.

                    __________________ Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now. © 2009, Rex Hammock

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                    dandy72
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                    You've obviously never compared the end result. I'd never go back to labels.

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                    • D dandy72

                      Someone, I forget where, recently posted a rant about--not the promised paperless office--but those who keep pushing that decades-old lie. There will always be a need to have something printed. In my case, picture a pile of identical, plain white, inkjet printable CDs and/or DVDs. The alternative is writing on them with Sharpies.

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                      erikbrannlund
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                      In swedish it is easy to rant about the paperless office. Paperless would be translated to papperslösa but if I change it into pappers slösa it becomes paper wasting

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                        I hate everything mechanical that you connect to a computer. Especially something that has as many mechanical parts as a printer. I only have 2 sentences written and already I'm feeling a long rant coming up. I could go in so many directions. But I'll try to keep it short. I've wasted enough time and money on this printer that randomly chooses to display this error that just tells you to send the printer back to the manufacturer. Looking up the error suggests that, despite this, the error "might" go away on its own just by replacing the ink cartridges. Obviously, it's an ink-jet printer. I despise them. The ink always dries up long before I'm ready to print. Last time I printed anything (just a few pages), the cartridges were brand new. This weekend, the cartridges, a transparent plastic container, all show more than 80% of the ink is gone. I replaced them with my last spares, still in a shrink-wrap. The printer still shows the same error. This is not the first time this happens. I've had enough. The replacement (printer, that is, not cartridges) is coming from Amazon this week. Once that one is set up and prints, I'm going full Office Space on this one.

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                        Gluups
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                        For sure, a laser printer works much more decently. Despite of this, I should be interested in finding somebody able to repair an Epson LQ100. A little noisy, but worked more than 20 years with no problem. And it does not make a topic of having been unused three months long.

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