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  • P Peter_in_2780

    What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road when there is no kerb? (leftpond: curb) I know what I (and my firefighting colleagues) call it, but I'm interested in the wider world's usage.

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    We call it "shoulder" as the edge of the road...

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      We call it "shoulder" as the edge of the road...

      "If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg

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      Yes, the term "road shoulder" is pretty universal, I think. I was specifically asking about the white line marking the edge of the roadway.

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        What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road when there is no kerb? (leftpond: curb) I know what I (and my firefighting colleagues) call it, but I'm interested in the wider world's usage.

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        Mircea Neacsu
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        dontgointheditch ?

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          In the UK, it's the "Edge line": THE HIGHWAY CODE ... ​​​​Signs and Signals ... ​Road markings[^] but there are other names (and functions) if it is non-white.

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          I wasn't aware of, or had forgootten, that. And since few roads have that line ... at least round the Surrey hills.

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          • P Peter_in_2780

            Yes, the term "road shoulder" is pretty universal, I think. I was specifically asking about the white line marking the edge of the roadway.

            Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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            We call the line and anything beyond as 'shoulder'...

            "If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg

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              dontgointheditch ?

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              "edge line" seems logical - in the spirit of KISS. And risking being called rude (again) - it took very little time for somebody ( not mentioning any names to identify / embarrass the guilty ) to get off the tangent / subject and talk about CENTER line when the OP was clear about the location of the line. In my opinion - some people just do not read well... and it has very little to do with Queens English skills. Most frustrating part, to me, how can one expect good technical response / discussion when simple not technical question gets botched down? (And when I point that out , I am rude....so I will NOT SAY THAT......)

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              • P Peter_in_2780

                What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road when there is no kerb? (leftpond: curb) I know what I (and my firefighting colleagues) call it, but I'm interested in the wider world's usage.

                Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                David Crow
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                Peter_in_2780 wrote:

                What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road

                White line. The one in the middle is called the (solid or dashed) "yellow line."

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                  I wasn't aware of, or had forgootten, that. And since few roads have that line ... at least round the Surrey hills.

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                  It may have been introduced since you passed your test (and since I did as well). I think it's mostly used on dual carriageway and motorways to help with slip roads and lane discipline at night.

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                    It may have been introduced since you passed your test (and since I did as well). I think it's mostly used on dual carriageway and motorways to help with slip roads and lane discipline at night.

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                    According to National Highways it has now been replaced by potholes. ;)

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                      Peter_in_2780 wrote:

                      What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road

                      White line. The one in the middle is called the (solid or dashed) "yellow line."

                      "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

                      "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

                      "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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                      David Crow wrote:

                      The one in the middle is called the (solid or dashed) "yellow line."

                      Over here it's white. The edge line is white on most roads, and green on motorways (not sure of the US term).

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                      • P Peter_in_2780

                        What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road when there is no kerb? (leftpond: curb) I know what I (and my firefighting colleagues) call it, but I'm interested in the wider world's usage.

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                        Mike Hankey
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                        The Oh Shit line?

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                        • P Peter_in_2780

                          What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road when there is no kerb? (leftpond: curb) I know what I (and my firefighting colleagues) call it, but I'm interested in the wider world's usage.

                          Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                          MarkTJohnson
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                          The wife calls it the "WATCH OUT! You aren't paying attention to the road. Are you trying to kill us?" line.

                          I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated. I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.

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                            According to National Highways it has now been replaced by potholes. ;)

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                            I think they are painting them white round here, and calling 'em roundabouts. :sigh:

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                            • P Peter_in_2780

                              What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road when there is no kerb? (leftpond: curb) I know what I (and my firefighting colleagues) call it, but I'm interested in the wider world's usage.

                              Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                              I just browsed my state's driver's manual and it doesn't give a name other than a paragraph describing them labeled "Edge and Lane Lines".

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                              • P Peter_in_2780

                                What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road when there is no kerb? (leftpond: curb) I know what I (and my firefighting colleagues) call it, but I'm interested in the wider world's usage.

                                Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                                The edge if the road. You cross it, then correct, then cross it again - you're going to do a roadside.

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                                • P Peter_in_2780

                                  What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road when there is no kerb? (leftpond: curb) I know what I (and my firefighting colleagues) call it, but I'm interested in the wider world's usage.

                                  Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                                  Most roads around here have the white line and then a strip of asphalt that is intentionally grooved so that when you drive over it you hear a sound that helps wake you up. I call it the growler. Pretty sure I'm the only one, though. I've seen many roads with that on the middle line too. I think it's pretty smart.

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                                  • P Peter_in_2780

                                    What do you call the white line on the outer edge of the road when there is no kerb? (leftpond: curb) I know what I (and my firefighting colleagues) call it, but I'm interested in the wider world's usage.

                                    Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                                    Line? What line?[^] :laugh:

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                                      Most roads around here have the white line and then a strip of asphalt that is intentionally grooved so that when you drive over it you hear a sound that helps wake you up. I call it the growler. Pretty sure I'm the only one, though. I've seen many roads with that on the middle line too. I think it's pretty smart.

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                                      jochance
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                                      I spent a brief time needing to drive on it on purpose because the little one had a minimum speed limit of 55 like it was some kind of internal speedometer. Driving on the 'rumble strip' made 'em happy. Never got pulled over, but kinda wanted to just to explain it.

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                                        "edge line" seems logical - in the spirit of KISS. And risking being called rude (again) - it took very little time for somebody ( not mentioning any names to identify / embarrass the guilty ) to get off the tangent / subject and talk about CENTER line when the OP was clear about the location of the line. In my opinion - some people just do not read well... and it has very little to do with Queens English skills. Most frustrating part, to me, how can one expect good technical response / discussion when simple not technical question gets botched down? (And when I point that out , I am rude....so I will NOT SAY THAT......)

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                                        Peter_in_2780
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                                        ... and then there are the relatively new members who hijack a thread to climb on their soapbox and flog a dead horse. (Mixed metaphors, a dime a dozen today!) This contributes nothing to the thread I initiated.

                                        Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                                          According to National Highways it has now been replaced by potholes. ;)

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                                          trønderen
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                                          I appreciate the "rumble stripes", both on the shoulder and between lanes. A nice reminder that you are not correctly positioned in your lane, especially in fog or darkness (or both). They are certainly not omnipresent on Norwegian roads, but they are gradually becoming more common. I definitely prefer them to potholes!

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