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[Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 Max experienced "Dutch roll" during flight - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV84U5Mql5s)[^] Wikipedia says that the origin of name 'Dutch' in Dutch Roll is uncertain. Anyone here has more authentic info on this?
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[Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 Max experienced "Dutch roll" during flight - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV84U5Mql5s)[^] Wikipedia says that the origin of name 'Dutch' in Dutch Roll is uncertain. Anyone here has more authentic info on this?
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The so-called Dutch roll, said to have been named after an ice-skating technique attributed to the Netherlands
according to a BBC article.
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[Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 Max experienced "Dutch roll" during flight - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV84U5Mql5s)[^] Wikipedia says that the origin of name 'Dutch' in Dutch Roll is uncertain. Anyone here has more authentic info on this?
A TV report said that a Dutch Roll is a side to side motion caused by application of the pedals that cause the nose of the plane to move in a figure 8 pattern horizontally. They said the passengers might not notice this type of motion but it would freak out the pilots if they were not actively controlling the pedals.
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A TV report said that a Dutch Roll is a side to side motion caused by application of the pedals that cause the nose of the plane to move in a figure 8 pattern horizontally. They said the passengers might not notice this type of motion but it would freak out the pilots if they were not actively controlling the pedals.
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[Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 Max experienced "Dutch roll" during flight - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV84U5Mql5s)[^] Wikipedia says that the origin of name 'Dutch' in Dutch Roll is uncertain. Anyone here has more authentic info on this?
I take issue with the word "roll". I think it should be called the Dutch Yaw, because from what the (terribly uninformative) youtube / newscast(er) described, I believe it was a yaw and in no way a roll. If I hear a jet-liner rolled I'm thinking serious stuff. But this was a yaw, like turning to the right and back to the left. You think maybe they were trying to sensationalize the story a bit? No, no, not the news. :rolleyes:
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The so-called Dutch roll, said to have been named after an ice-skating technique attributed to the Netherlands
according to a BBC article.
Interesting. Because I was under the impression that ice skating is prevalent in Alpine countries. And Netherlands is not one of them.
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I take issue with the word "roll". I think it should be called the Dutch Yaw, because from what the (terribly uninformative) youtube / newscast(er) described, I believe it was a yaw and in no way a roll. If I hear a jet-liner rolled I'm thinking serious stuff. But this was a yaw, like turning to the right and back to the left. You think maybe they were trying to sensationalize the story a bit? No, no, not the news. :rolleyes:
The way I heard the explanation of the Dutch Roll is that it also involves the ailerons, so yes, there is a roll component to the motion.
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Interesting. Because I was under the impression that ice skating is prevalent in Alpine countries. And Netherlands is not one of them.
You can find more on skating history here: Schaatshistorie.nl | Ice Skating History Abroad[^]
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Interesting. Because I was under the impression that ice skating is prevalent in Alpine countries. And Netherlands is not one of them.
Tell that to Pieter Bruegel the Elder (~1530 - 1569). In particular take a look at [Hunters in the Snow (Winter) - Pieter Bruegel the Elder — Google Arts & Culture](https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/hunters-in-the-snow-winter/WgFmzFNNN74nUg?hl=en&ms={"x"%3A0.5%2C"y"%3A0.5%2C"z"%3A9.411977679636397%2C"size"%3A{"width"%3A1.2865775993171442%2C"height"%3A1.2374999999999998}}). On the frozen pond in the upper right, there appears to be people skating. Several of which seem to have hockey sticks!
"A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants" Chuckles the clown
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Tell that to Pieter Bruegel the Elder (~1530 - 1569). In particular take a look at [Hunters in the Snow (Winter) - Pieter Bruegel the Elder — Google Arts & Culture](https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/hunters-in-the-snow-winter/WgFmzFNNN74nUg?hl=en&ms={"x"%3A0.5%2C"y"%3A0.5%2C"z"%3A9.411977679636397%2C"size"%3A{"width"%3A1.2865775993171442%2C"height"%3A1.2374999999999998}}). On the frozen pond in the upper right, there appears to be people skating. Several of which seem to have hockey sticks!
"A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants" Chuckles the clown
I even see some of the figures playing a game of curling :-\
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[Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 Max experienced "Dutch roll" during flight - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV84U5Mql5s)[^] Wikipedia says that the origin of name 'Dutch' in Dutch Roll is uncertain. Anyone here has more authentic info on this?
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So what is Dutch about that? (I guess that is what the OP really was curious about.)
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Shruggs: and Google says: What is a "Dutch roll"? "Dutch roll" is a name given to the combination of a yawing motion when the tail slides and the plane rocks from wingtip to wingtip. It is said to mimic the movement of a Dutch ice skater.
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I take issue with the word "roll". I think it should be called the Dutch Yaw, because from what the (terribly uninformative) youtube / newscast(er) described, I believe it was a yaw and in no way a roll. If I hear a jet-liner rolled I'm thinking serious stuff. But this was a yaw, like turning to the right and back to the left. You think maybe they were trying to sensationalize the story a bit? No, no, not the news. :rolleyes:
raddevus wrote:
I take issue with the word "roll". I think it should be called the Dutch Yaw, because from what the (terribly uninformative) youtube / newscast(er) described, I believe it was a yaw and in no way a roll. If I hear a jet-liner rolled I'm thinking serious stuff. But this was a yaw, like turning to the right and back to the left. You think maybe they were trying to sensationalize the story a bit? No, no, not the news. :rolleyes:
A Dutch Roll is actually a roll that occurs as a result of a yaw. If you're flying an airplane that has swept wings, and yaw is induced, then it can happen. I've never heard of it being a danger to the flight of an airliner. When a yaw does occur, it causes the plane to roll as though you were controlling the ailerons. A yaw can change the rate of airflow over each wing differently. Hence, the wing that encounters an increased airflow generates more lift. The wing with a lower airflow produces less lift. Thus, a roll occurs. And yes, the news of this event is WAY overhyped. :laugh:
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[Southwest Airlines Boeing 737 Max experienced "Dutch roll" during flight - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV84U5Mql5s)[^] Wikipedia says that the origin of name 'Dutch' in Dutch Roll is uncertain. Anyone here has more authentic info on this?
The are some phrases in English that use "Dutch" in a derogatory manner, e.g. "Double Dutch" meaning "nonsense". I expect that "Dutch Roll" is more of the same - using a yaw to initiate a roll being just the bass-ackward kind of thing that a Dutchman would do.
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