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  • D dandy72

    Title says it all. I have a number of "old" MicroSD cards, that aren't really worth putting into any phone or tablet anymore, but still seem to be very capable of storing data (and reading it back - I've made sure to verify that). I have a lot of documents (drivers license, insurance papers, health cards, various ID cards, income tax papers, etc) that I keep in a relatively small (8GB) encrypted container file, created with VeraCrypt. Any one of the MicroSD cards ought to be suitable for storing an extra copy of the encrypted file. The VeraCrypt is part of my regular backup set. My question is - how tough are MicroSD cards, really? Rugged enough to leave in a wallet you carry in your back pocket? I feel like it wouldn't take much for them to bend and snap in half. I have slightly larger plastic cases (that the cards typically come with), which might help prevent them from bending, but these are much thicker than a typical card itself, so I lose that benefit and now have something bulky in my wallet. What do you think? Leave one unprotected in my wallet, or does someone manufacture some sort of slightly bigger container for them that's rugged enough but still not too bulky? Or now that I think of it, does anyone know of a wallet with a tiny pocket that can be closed with a zipper or something that would help prevent a card from accidentally slipping out...? Or would you just forego the whole idea, and place the encrypted file on your phone...

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    They're way more rugged than people give them credit for. If you're worried about them bending, don't be. Your credit cards don't get bent often I'd wager. They're too tiny for that to be too much of a problem. If you're worried about scratches, get a tiny plastic case or just wrap it in cellophane (it's anti-static). For peeps saying, just keep it on your phone... its worth noting that your phone is the first place someone will look for private data. Granted, a micro SD card is also obvious in your wallet. So given those two choices, the phone is the better route if you plan to access to the data often. So, guess I didn't need to mention that. :laugh: Does VeraCrypt not run on your phone btw? Just gonna assume it offers a high level of encryption that would warrant not relying on your phones security alone. Also, if this is a backup you don't need to access often, why not forgo keeping it on your person and eliminate any worries? Unless it's just a backup of a backup in case your first backup gets in a fire or stolen? In which case, would a cloud-based backup suffice?

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    • D dandy72

      Title says it all. I have a number of "old" MicroSD cards, that aren't really worth putting into any phone or tablet anymore, but still seem to be very capable of storing data (and reading it back - I've made sure to verify that). I have a lot of documents (drivers license, insurance papers, health cards, various ID cards, income tax papers, etc) that I keep in a relatively small (8GB) encrypted container file, created with VeraCrypt. Any one of the MicroSD cards ought to be suitable for storing an extra copy of the encrypted file. The VeraCrypt is part of my regular backup set. My question is - how tough are MicroSD cards, really? Rugged enough to leave in a wallet you carry in your back pocket? I feel like it wouldn't take much for them to bend and snap in half. I have slightly larger plastic cases (that the cards typically come with), which might help prevent them from bending, but these are much thicker than a typical card itself, so I lose that benefit and now have something bulky in my wallet. What do you think? Leave one unprotected in my wallet, or does someone manufacture some sort of slightly bigger container for them that's rugged enough but still not too bulky? Or now that I think of it, does anyone know of a wallet with a tiny pocket that can be closed with a zipper or something that would help prevent a card from accidentally slipping out...? Or would you just forego the whole idea, and place the encrypted file on your phone...

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      jochance
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      If they're encrypted, just scatter them everywhere. Sock drawer, wallet, safe deposit box, etc.

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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        They're way more rugged than people give them credit for. If you're worried about them bending, don't be. Your credit cards don't get bent often I'd wager. They're too tiny for that to be too much of a problem. If you're worried about scratches, get a tiny plastic case or just wrap it in cellophane (it's anti-static). For peeps saying, just keep it on your phone... its worth noting that your phone is the first place someone will look for private data. Granted, a micro SD card is also obvious in your wallet. So given those two choices, the phone is the better route if you plan to access to the data often. So, guess I didn't need to mention that. :laugh: Does VeraCrypt not run on your phone btw? Just gonna assume it offers a high level of encryption that would warrant not relying on your phones security alone. Also, if this is a backup you don't need to access often, why not forgo keeping it on your person and eliminate any worries? Unless it's just a backup of a backup in case your first backup gets in a fire or stolen? In which case, would a cloud-based backup suffice?

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        dandy72
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        It's pretty much a backup of a backup of a backup by now, I already have plenty of them, it's just a matter of having an extra set "just because" I happen to have spare MicroSD cards doing nothing, and this might be a good use. Being so small, I figured, why not carry this in my wallet? And no, as far as I know, VeraCrypt does not have a client for Android, but as mentioned elsewhere, the intent is not to have the content readily accessible on Android. It's just a transport mechanism. I wouldn't worry about physically losing the card either.

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        • D dandy72

          Title says it all. I have a number of "old" MicroSD cards, that aren't really worth putting into any phone or tablet anymore, but still seem to be very capable of storing data (and reading it back - I've made sure to verify that). I have a lot of documents (drivers license, insurance papers, health cards, various ID cards, income tax papers, etc) that I keep in a relatively small (8GB) encrypted container file, created with VeraCrypt. Any one of the MicroSD cards ought to be suitable for storing an extra copy of the encrypted file. The VeraCrypt is part of my regular backup set. My question is - how tough are MicroSD cards, really? Rugged enough to leave in a wallet you carry in your back pocket? I feel like it wouldn't take much for them to bend and snap in half. I have slightly larger plastic cases (that the cards typically come with), which might help prevent them from bending, but these are much thicker than a typical card itself, so I lose that benefit and now have something bulky in my wallet. What do you think? Leave one unprotected in my wallet, or does someone manufacture some sort of slightly bigger container for them that's rugged enough but still not too bulky? Or now that I think of it, does anyone know of a wallet with a tiny pocket that can be closed with a zipper or something that would help prevent a card from accidentally slipping out...? Or would you just forego the whole idea, and place the encrypted file on your phone...

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          if you have lots of them, then tape 4 to a credit card you do not use very often. Put 4 in a ziploc in your phone case. Write some software that will compare all 4 images and choose the “majority” bit match to help with losing a bit here and there. The encryption software should have anti tamper to tell you if a checksum/hash is wrong when you decrypt it. Great idea for offsite/on person backup. Also install a phone home program on the SDs in case someone swipes your wallet or phone.

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          • D dandy72

            Title says it all. I have a number of "old" MicroSD cards, that aren't really worth putting into any phone or tablet anymore, but still seem to be very capable of storing data (and reading it back - I've made sure to verify that). I have a lot of documents (drivers license, insurance papers, health cards, various ID cards, income tax papers, etc) that I keep in a relatively small (8GB) encrypted container file, created with VeraCrypt. Any one of the MicroSD cards ought to be suitable for storing an extra copy of the encrypted file. The VeraCrypt is part of my regular backup set. My question is - how tough are MicroSD cards, really? Rugged enough to leave in a wallet you carry in your back pocket? I feel like it wouldn't take much for them to bend and snap in half. I have slightly larger plastic cases (that the cards typically come with), which might help prevent them from bending, but these are much thicker than a typical card itself, so I lose that benefit and now have something bulky in my wallet. What do you think? Leave one unprotected in my wallet, or does someone manufacture some sort of slightly bigger container for them that's rugged enough but still not too bulky? Or now that I think of it, does anyone know of a wallet with a tiny pocket that can be closed with a zipper or something that would help prevent a card from accidentally slipping out...? Or would you just forego the whole idea, and place the encrypted file on your phone...

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            Just a thought it has RFID blocking material How effective it is well that is another question https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CTQGL1M8/ref=twister_B0CWKMTLFF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1[^]

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            • D dandy72

              It's pretty much a backup of a backup of a backup by now, I already have plenty of them, it's just a matter of having an extra set "just because" I happen to have spare MicroSD cards doing nothing, and this might be a good use. Being so small, I figured, why not carry this in my wallet? And no, as far as I know, VeraCrypt does not have a client for Android, but as mentioned elsewhere, the intent is not to have the content readily accessible on Android. It's just a transport mechanism. I wouldn't worry about physically losing the card either.

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              You should be fine then man. Those little boogers are sturdy. Your main concern would be scratches, but you can just wrap it. It's not that much different than a credit card as far as durability goes and it's not like we scratch up the mag strip on them daily. Still, nothing cellophane can't handle.

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              • D dandy72

                It's pretty much a backup of a backup of a backup by now, I already have plenty of them, it's just a matter of having an extra set "just because" I happen to have spare MicroSD cards doing nothing, and this might be a good use. Being so small, I figured, why not carry this in my wallet? And no, as far as I know, VeraCrypt does not have a client for Android, but as mentioned elsewhere, the intent is not to have the content readily accessible on Android. It's just a transport mechanism. I wouldn't worry about physically losing the card either.

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Oh, about the only issue I can think of, is if you sweat a lot and it gets wet because your wallet is wet, you'd have to let it completely dry out before using it again.

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                  Just a thought it has RFID blocking material How effective it is well that is another question https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CTQGL1M8/ref=twister_B0CWKMTLFF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1[^]

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                  dandy72
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                  I'd be more concerned about the non-encrypted data on my phone than my encrypted file.

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                  • D dandy72

                    Title says it all. I have a number of "old" MicroSD cards, that aren't really worth putting into any phone or tablet anymore, but still seem to be very capable of storing data (and reading it back - I've made sure to verify that). I have a lot of documents (drivers license, insurance papers, health cards, various ID cards, income tax papers, etc) that I keep in a relatively small (8GB) encrypted container file, created with VeraCrypt. Any one of the MicroSD cards ought to be suitable for storing an extra copy of the encrypted file. The VeraCrypt is part of my regular backup set. My question is - how tough are MicroSD cards, really? Rugged enough to leave in a wallet you carry in your back pocket? I feel like it wouldn't take much for them to bend and snap in half. I have slightly larger plastic cases (that the cards typically come with), which might help prevent them from bending, but these are much thicker than a typical card itself, so I lose that benefit and now have something bulky in my wallet. What do you think? Leave one unprotected in my wallet, or does someone manufacture some sort of slightly bigger container for them that's rugged enough but still not too bulky? Or now that I think of it, does anyone know of a wallet with a tiny pocket that can be closed with a zipper or something that would help prevent a card from accidentally slipping out...? Or would you just forego the whole idea, and place the encrypted file on your phone...

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                    I use a small USB thumb that attaches to my key ring. It has space inside the USB connector to hold a micro SD card. I sometimes forget my wallet, but so far a forgot my keys only once. Brand: CanaKit Website: Mini MicroSD USB Reader[^]

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                    • D dandy72

                      Title says it all. I have a number of "old" MicroSD cards, that aren't really worth putting into any phone or tablet anymore, but still seem to be very capable of storing data (and reading it back - I've made sure to verify that). I have a lot of documents (drivers license, insurance papers, health cards, various ID cards, income tax papers, etc) that I keep in a relatively small (8GB) encrypted container file, created with VeraCrypt. Any one of the MicroSD cards ought to be suitable for storing an extra copy of the encrypted file. The VeraCrypt is part of my regular backup set. My question is - how tough are MicroSD cards, really? Rugged enough to leave in a wallet you carry in your back pocket? I feel like it wouldn't take much for them to bend and snap in half. I have slightly larger plastic cases (that the cards typically come with), which might help prevent them from bending, but these are much thicker than a typical card itself, so I lose that benefit and now have something bulky in my wallet. What do you think? Leave one unprotected in my wallet, or does someone manufacture some sort of slightly bigger container for them that's rugged enough but still not too bulky? Or now that I think of it, does anyone know of a wallet with a tiny pocket that can be closed with a zipper or something that would help prevent a card from accidentally slipping out...? Or would you just forego the whole idea, and place the encrypted file on your phone...

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                      Not exactly what you want, but I have a credit card sized USB stick. The USB thingy flips out of the card, is slightly thicker than the card where the USB whotsit resides. Search Amazon, "credit card usb". They may be sightly more awkward to insert into USB port, as there is no outer metal shell, just the board inside of the USB shell.

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                      • D dandy72

                        Title says it all. I have a number of "old" MicroSD cards, that aren't really worth putting into any phone or tablet anymore, but still seem to be very capable of storing data (and reading it back - I've made sure to verify that). I have a lot of documents (drivers license, insurance papers, health cards, various ID cards, income tax papers, etc) that I keep in a relatively small (8GB) encrypted container file, created with VeraCrypt. Any one of the MicroSD cards ought to be suitable for storing an extra copy of the encrypted file. The VeraCrypt is part of my regular backup set. My question is - how tough are MicroSD cards, really? Rugged enough to leave in a wallet you carry in your back pocket? I feel like it wouldn't take much for them to bend and snap in half. I have slightly larger plastic cases (that the cards typically come with), which might help prevent them from bending, but these are much thicker than a typical card itself, so I lose that benefit and now have something bulky in my wallet. What do you think? Leave one unprotected in my wallet, or does someone manufacture some sort of slightly bigger container for them that's rugged enough but still not too bulky? Or now that I think of it, does anyone know of a wallet with a tiny pocket that can be closed with a zipper or something that would help prevent a card from accidentally slipping out...? Or would you just forego the whole idea, and place the encrypted file on your phone...

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                        Matt Bond
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                        Woman's wallets frequently have coin pouches with a snap or zipper that is designed to have bulkier items in it. Of course, the assumption is that the wallet is in a purse instead of a back pocket.

                        Bond Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere

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                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                          Oh, about the only issue I can think of, is if you sweat a lot and it gets wet because your wallet is wet, you'd have to let it completely dry out before using it again.

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                          In the end, I found a small plastic zip-lock type bag that I kept, probably containing screws, from something like a hard drive mount/adapter I purchased in the past. Nowhere near as thick as the hard plastic container that the MicroSD card itself came with, and it probably stands a better chance at being waterproof than the case it's now replacing. For all intents and purposes, this adds nothing measurable to the thickness of my wallet once folded.

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                          • D dandy72

                            In the end, I found a small plastic zip-lock type bag that I kept, probably containing screws, from something like a hard drive mount/adapter I purchased in the past. Nowhere near as thick as the hard plastic container that the MicroSD card itself came with, and it probably stands a better chance at being waterproof than the case it's now replacing. For all intents and purposes, this adds nothing measurable to the thickness of my wallet once folded.

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                            Noice

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                            • D dandy72

                              Title says it all. I have a number of "old" MicroSD cards, that aren't really worth putting into any phone or tablet anymore, but still seem to be very capable of storing data (and reading it back - I've made sure to verify that). I have a lot of documents (drivers license, insurance papers, health cards, various ID cards, income tax papers, etc) that I keep in a relatively small (8GB) encrypted container file, created with VeraCrypt. Any one of the MicroSD cards ought to be suitable for storing an extra copy of the encrypted file. The VeraCrypt is part of my regular backup set. My question is - how tough are MicroSD cards, really? Rugged enough to leave in a wallet you carry in your back pocket? I feel like it wouldn't take much for them to bend and snap in half. I have slightly larger plastic cases (that the cards typically come with), which might help prevent them from bending, but these are much thicker than a typical card itself, so I lose that benefit and now have something bulky in my wallet. What do you think? Leave one unprotected in my wallet, or does someone manufacture some sort of slightly bigger container for them that's rugged enough but still not too bulky? Or now that I think of it, does anyone know of a wallet with a tiny pocket that can be closed with a zipper or something that would help prevent a card from accidentally slipping out...? Or would you just forego the whole idea, and place the encrypted file on your phone...

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                              StainlessS
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                              I addition to my post two previous to this one: Search Amazon "credit card micro SD container" Pretty much exactly what you want.

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                                I addition to my post two previous to this one: Search Amazon "credit card micro SD container" Pretty much exactly what you want.

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                                Send me a direct link to a sample. All Amazon is showing me are plastic cases, indeed roughly the size of a credit card, but much thicker (and holding a ridiculous number of cards - I just need one). I wouldn't want that in my wallet--nor carry it separately.

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                                • D dandy72

                                  Title says it all. I have a number of "old" MicroSD cards, that aren't really worth putting into any phone or tablet anymore, but still seem to be very capable of storing data (and reading it back - I've made sure to verify that). I have a lot of documents (drivers license, insurance papers, health cards, various ID cards, income tax papers, etc) that I keep in a relatively small (8GB) encrypted container file, created with VeraCrypt. Any one of the MicroSD cards ought to be suitable for storing an extra copy of the encrypted file. The VeraCrypt is part of my regular backup set. My question is - how tough are MicroSD cards, really? Rugged enough to leave in a wallet you carry in your back pocket? I feel like it wouldn't take much for them to bend and snap in half. I have slightly larger plastic cases (that the cards typically come with), which might help prevent them from bending, but these are much thicker than a typical card itself, so I lose that benefit and now have something bulky in my wallet. What do you think? Leave one unprotected in my wallet, or does someone manufacture some sort of slightly bigger container for them that's rugged enough but still not too bulky? Or now that I think of it, does anyone know of a wallet with a tiny pocket that can be closed with a zipper or something that would help prevent a card from accidentally slipping out...? Or would you just forego the whole idea, and place the encrypted file on your phone...

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                                  BernardIE5317
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                                  May I please inquire why you would want to keep backups of your tax forms etc. in your back pocket while exempli gratia sitting at a movie theater or filling up / charging the family auto or getting a hair cut at your favorite barber etc. Does "off site" mean "back pocket".

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                                    Send me a direct link to a sample. All Amazon is showing me are plastic cases, indeed roughly the size of a credit card, but much thicker (and holding a ridiculous number of cards - I just need one). I wouldn't want that in my wallet--nor carry it separately.

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                                    I guess that you could just get a credit card sized plastic see-through wallet for storing a "Travel Card", "Bus Pass", and just drop the Micro SD in that.

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                                    • D dandy72

                                      Send me a direct link to a sample. All Amazon is showing me are plastic cases, indeed roughly the size of a credit card, but much thicker (and holding a ridiculous number of cards - I just need one). I wouldn't want that in my wallet--nor carry it separately.

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                                      I dont know if I can (and assume that I cant) send direct link. but on Amazon.co.uk, search "JJC Micro SD Card Case Carrying Lightweight Slim Holder Storage for 10 MSD Micro SD Memory Cards" and "Kiorafoto Credit Card Size Memory Card Holder SD Card Cases for 10 MSD/TF Card - Micro SDHC, Micro SDXC, TF Cards Storage Case Holder" Both £5.49 I've just added the first one to my Basket, the one with four full sized SD cards (or adapters), and two Micro SD. (the 10 x Micro SD is probably slimmer than the one I will order) Google should also find them.

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                                        May I please inquire why you would want to keep backups of your tax forms etc. in your back pocket while exempli gratia sitting at a movie theater or filling up / charging the family auto or getting a hair cut at your favorite barber etc. Does "off site" mean "back pocket".

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                                        dandy72
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                                        You're right, I don't need it. It's merely a matter of why not. We have these digital storage units capable of storing gigabytes worth of information - dozens, hundreds - in an infinitely small and weightless form that fits comfortable in a wallet. I have old spare cards that are gathering dust. They're perfectly suitable for this. It's not ever going to be the one backup I absolutely must rely on (god forbid), it's an additional backup that practically costs me nothing to have and don't even to think of. I do have offsite backups of stuff, but they're not always convenient to get to and update. Let me turn the question around and ask, what's the harm? I see plenty of people carry around a (much larger) USB thumbdrive with them all the time, on a key chain. Would you ask them the same question?

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                                          I dont know if I can (and assume that I cant) send direct link. but on Amazon.co.uk, search "JJC Micro SD Card Case Carrying Lightweight Slim Holder Storage for 10 MSD Micro SD Memory Cards" and "Kiorafoto Credit Card Size Memory Card Holder SD Card Cases for 10 MSD/TF Card - Micro SDHC, Micro SDXC, TF Cards Storage Case Holder" Both £5.49 I've just added the first one to my Basket, the one with four full sized SD cards (or adapters), and two Micro SD. (the 10 x Micro SD is probably slimmer than the one I will order) Google should also find them.

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                                          dandy72
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                                          StainlessS wrote:

                                          I dont know if I can (and assume that I cant) send direct link.

                                          Why would you even make that assumption? Have you ever tried? Prove it to yourself. Load the page showing the item, copy the URL, start a new browser instance in private mode, paste, hit enter. The same page will load, without anything that assumes anything about your login profile. Better yet, try with another browser that knows nothing about you. Or another computer. Amazon's ability to "search itself" even with exact keywords is notoriously awful, that's why I asked for a direct link. I otherwise generally get better results using Google to search Amazon (how sad). And indeed, I found the items (thanks), but neither were the first result. They both look significantly thicker than a credit card. I suppose this gives it extra rigidity, but whether that's needed or not remains to be seen. Certainly looks bulkier than anything else I have in my wallet.

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