Received this from Microsoft: Can anyone explain?
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I use Mozilla Thunderbird and have an old hotmail account (tied to microsoft outlook). I received an email today from MS that states: "Action Needed – You may lose access to some of your third-party mail and calendar apps" It kind of feels like a phishing email but I think it is real. Have you received any of these? Email goes on to say:
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Update your sign-in technology before September 16th, 2024 to maintain email access. The safety and security of your information is top priority for Microsoft. To help keep your account secure, Microsoft will no longer support the use of third-party email and calendar apps which ask you to sign in with only your Microsoft Account username and password. To keep you safe you will need to use a mail or calendar app which supports Microsoft’s modern authentication methods. If you do not act, your third-party email apps will no longer be able to access your Outlook.com, Hotmail or Live.com email address on September 16th. What do you need to do? If you are receiving this email, you are currently using an email or calendar app that uses a less secure authentication method to connect to your Outlook.com email account. You will need to upgrade your third-party mail and calendar app to a version which supports modern authentication methods. Microsoft provides free versions of Outlook for your PC, Mac, iOS, and Android devices which can be easily downloaded and connect to your email account. Using an updated version of an Outlook application will ensure you are connecting in the most secure way.
I don't know what technology it is actually talking about that will need to be updated. Anyone know what they're nattering on about? Thanks UPDATE I bolded the part that seems to indicate what MS is talking about. But what are "modern authentication methods". This is honestly a very uninformative email that is trying to inform people of "something".:confused:
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I use Mozilla Thunderbird and have an old hotmail account (tied to microsoft outlook). I received an email today from MS that states: "Action Needed – You may lose access to some of your third-party mail and calendar apps" It kind of feels like a phishing email but I think it is real. Have you received any of these? Email goes on to say:
Quote:
Update your sign-in technology before September 16th, 2024 to maintain email access. The safety and security of your information is top priority for Microsoft. To help keep your account secure, Microsoft will no longer support the use of third-party email and calendar apps which ask you to sign in with only your Microsoft Account username and password. To keep you safe you will need to use a mail or calendar app which supports Microsoft’s modern authentication methods. If you do not act, your third-party email apps will no longer be able to access your Outlook.com, Hotmail or Live.com email address on September 16th. What do you need to do? If you are receiving this email, you are currently using an email or calendar app that uses a less secure authentication method to connect to your Outlook.com email account. You will need to upgrade your third-party mail and calendar app to a version which supports modern authentication methods. Microsoft provides free versions of Outlook for your PC, Mac, iOS, and Android devices which can be easily downloaded and connect to your email account. Using an updated version of an Outlook application will ensure you are connecting in the most secure way.
I don't know what technology it is actually talking about that will need to be updated. Anyone know what they're nattering on about? Thanks UPDATE I bolded the part that seems to indicate what MS is talking about. But what are "modern authentication methods". This is honestly a very uninformative email that is trying to inform people of "something".:confused:
It's probably legit. You could log on your account via the official website. (obviously, don't click on link in the emails.) A quick google returns something similar for gmail. "Beginning September 30, 2024: third-party apps that use only a password to access Google Accounts and Google Sync will no longer be supported"
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I use Mozilla Thunderbird and have an old hotmail account (tied to microsoft outlook). I received an email today from MS that states: "Action Needed – You may lose access to some of your third-party mail and calendar apps" It kind of feels like a phishing email but I think it is real. Have you received any of these? Email goes on to say:
Quote:
Update your sign-in technology before September 16th, 2024 to maintain email access. The safety and security of your information is top priority for Microsoft. To help keep your account secure, Microsoft will no longer support the use of third-party email and calendar apps which ask you to sign in with only your Microsoft Account username and password. To keep you safe you will need to use a mail or calendar app which supports Microsoft’s modern authentication methods. If you do not act, your third-party email apps will no longer be able to access your Outlook.com, Hotmail or Live.com email address on September 16th. What do you need to do? If you are receiving this email, you are currently using an email or calendar app that uses a less secure authentication method to connect to your Outlook.com email account. You will need to upgrade your third-party mail and calendar app to a version which supports modern authentication methods. Microsoft provides free versions of Outlook for your PC, Mac, iOS, and Android devices which can be easily downloaded and connect to your email account. Using an updated version of an Outlook application will ensure you are connecting in the most secure way.
I don't know what technology it is actually talking about that will need to be updated. Anyone know what they're nattering on about? Thanks UPDATE I bolded the part that seems to indicate what MS is talking about. But what are "modern authentication methods". This is honestly a very uninformative email that is trying to inform people of "something".:confused:
Related to this? The Insider News: Microsoft wants you to ditch Mail & Calendar on Windows 11 for better security[^]
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It's probably legit. You could log on your account via the official website. (obviously, don't click on link in the emails.) A quick google returns something similar for gmail. "Beginning September 30, 2024: third-party apps that use only a password to access Google Accounts and Google Sync will no longer be supported"
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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Related to this? The Insider News: Microsoft wants you to ditch Mail & Calendar on Windows 11 for better security[^]
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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No, that's not quite it. I think they are saying "3rd party apps won't be able to authenticate if they don't use XYZ technology." But they never seem to explain what XYZ technology they are talking about.
I guess it means that unless you authenticate yourself using Microsoft's authentication, Microsoft cannot provide authentication to the mail software, in case the application asks for it. And Microsoft authentication is The Only True Authentication, isn't it?` Ok, so my mail provider asks for another kind of authentication, one that certainly is good enough for it to both deliver my mail and accept my outgoing mail (through Thunderbird). It never made use of any Microsoft authentication, and it won't ask Microsoft to authenticate me. Of course: If the mail provider and Thunderbird really had the habit of doing that, they would have to update to match new current MS authentication. (I guess that's what MS is talking about.) But they don't. Of course: When I do not log in to my MS account before using email or anything else, MS is loosing the opportunity to track all my work at the computer. If I use a mail system that asks for MS to authenticate me every time, MS would know of all my mail reading and which mail software I am using. Maybe even that of my mail provider - I haven't looked into the MS authentication protocol, so I do not know what kind of context info they demand. I am quite sure that MS has no authority to interfere with the authentication between me, Thunderbird and my mail provider, on the grounds that 'We have got something even better - and besides, it gives us a mechanism for tracing your mail reading habits'. I will access my email as I have done for years, no matter which alternative authentication MS offers. If I have to log in using my MS account (that isn't often!), the first thing I do after having completed the task and logged out is to reboot the PC, and then try access an MS service requiring MS login, to ensure that there is no hidden link to my login left behind.
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I use Mozilla Thunderbird and have an old hotmail account (tied to microsoft outlook). I received an email today from MS that states: "Action Needed – You may lose access to some of your third-party mail and calendar apps" It kind of feels like a phishing email but I think it is real. Have you received any of these? Email goes on to say:
Quote:
Update your sign-in technology before September 16th, 2024 to maintain email access. The safety and security of your information is top priority for Microsoft. To help keep your account secure, Microsoft will no longer support the use of third-party email and calendar apps which ask you to sign in with only your Microsoft Account username and password. To keep you safe you will need to use a mail or calendar app which supports Microsoft’s modern authentication methods. If you do not act, your third-party email apps will no longer be able to access your Outlook.com, Hotmail or Live.com email address on September 16th. What do you need to do? If you are receiving this email, you are currently using an email or calendar app that uses a less secure authentication method to connect to your Outlook.com email account. You will need to upgrade your third-party mail and calendar app to a version which supports modern authentication methods. Microsoft provides free versions of Outlook for your PC, Mac, iOS, and Android devices which can be easily downloaded and connect to your email account. Using an updated version of an Outlook application will ensure you are connecting in the most secure way.
I don't know what technology it is actually talking about that will need to be updated. Anyone know what they're nattering on about? Thanks UPDATE I bolded the part that seems to indicate what MS is talking about. But what are "modern authentication methods". This is honestly a very uninformative email that is trying to inform people of "something".:confused:
"The safety and security of your information is top priority for Microsoft. " here's your sign. Do you know the reference? My first comment is a slap at MS and mostly a joke. As for is this valid? Likely. Back in the days where email was just email and there were no evil doers out there, like was good. Fast forward to today, and something like 90% of internet traffic is spam. So something like 10+ years ago, ISPs started turning off email if it was encouraging spam. Or allowing it. Or even it they thought is was allowing it. Getting to your issue: "I use Mozilla Thunderbird and have an old hotmail account." Not sure how hotmail figures in, but it's likely the standard old school pop3 sort of thing... Might be something you can look up on the Mozilla sites. Email is weird these days.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
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"The safety and security of your information is top priority for Microsoft. " here's your sign. Do you know the reference? My first comment is a slap at MS and mostly a joke. As for is this valid? Likely. Back in the days where email was just email and there were no evil doers out there, like was good. Fast forward to today, and something like 90% of internet traffic is spam. So something like 10+ years ago, ISPs started turning off email if it was encouraging spam. Or allowing it. Or even it they thought is was allowing it. Getting to your issue: "I use Mozilla Thunderbird and have an old hotmail account." Not sure how hotmail figures in, but it's likely the standard old school pop3 sort of thing... Might be something you can look up on the Mozilla sites. Email is weird these days.
Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.
charlieg wrote:
Not sure how hotmail figures in,
Hotmail is owned by Microsoft so it is actually a MS account. Thanks for replying and chatting about this issue. Microsoft was really opaque about the requirements of the email client & I'm still not sure. I will just wait and see how it turns out. Your email did make me think of the POP3 versus IMAP issue. Maybe MS is talking about only supporting IMAP going forward. Mozilla Thunderbird does support IMAP[^].
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I use Mozilla Thunderbird and have an old hotmail account (tied to microsoft outlook). I received an email today from MS that states: "Action Needed – You may lose access to some of your third-party mail and calendar apps" It kind of feels like a phishing email but I think it is real. Have you received any of these? Email goes on to say:
Quote:
Update your sign-in technology before September 16th, 2024 to maintain email access. The safety and security of your information is top priority for Microsoft. To help keep your account secure, Microsoft will no longer support the use of third-party email and calendar apps which ask you to sign in with only your Microsoft Account username and password. To keep you safe you will need to use a mail or calendar app which supports Microsoft’s modern authentication methods. If you do not act, your third-party email apps will no longer be able to access your Outlook.com, Hotmail or Live.com email address on September 16th. What do you need to do? If you are receiving this email, you are currently using an email or calendar app that uses a less secure authentication method to connect to your Outlook.com email account. You will need to upgrade your third-party mail and calendar app to a version which supports modern authentication methods. Microsoft provides free versions of Outlook for your PC, Mac, iOS, and Android devices which can be easily downloaded and connect to your email account. Using an updated version of an Outlook application will ensure you are connecting in the most secure way.
I don't know what technology it is actually talking about that will need to be updated. Anyone know what they're nattering on about? Thanks UPDATE I bolded the part that seems to indicate what MS is talking about. But what are "modern authentication methods". This is honestly a very uninformative email that is trying to inform people of "something".:confused:
This article explains a few things: Microsoft’s new Outlook security changes impact third-party apps and Gmail integration - The Verge[^] According to it, Thunderbird is updated and you'll be able to continue using it. It's interesting that outlook.com will no longer support Gmail, but the Outlook application will.
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This article explains a few things: Microsoft’s new Outlook security changes impact third-party apps and Gmail integration - The Verge[^] According to it, Thunderbird is updated and you'll be able to continue using it. It's interesting that outlook.com will no longer support Gmail, but the Outlook application will.