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  • K k5054

    What was your previous browser, and what led you to the conversion?

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    Chrome, then they wouldn't allow AdBlock so I went back to FF, which I had used for years. Then I start having problems getting links to work, I was getting a lot of "That site can't be reached" errors so I went to Edge to see if it was a browser issue. I was still getting errors! Turned out to be with the Server 2019 I have as a file server here at the house. For some reason it started having DNS issues and when I set my Windows 11 machine back to using Auto DHCP it cleared every up and it is now working for FF.

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    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

      Chrome, then they wouldn't allow AdBlock so I went back to FF, which I had used for years. Then I start having problems getting links to work, I was getting a lot of "That site can't be reached" errors so I went to Edge to see if it was a browser issue. I was still getting errors! Turned out to be with the Server 2019 I have as a file server here at the house. For some reason it started having DNS issues and when I set my Windows 11 machine back to using Auto DHCP it cleared every up and it is now working for FF.

      A home without books is a body without soul. Marcus Tullius Cicero PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.4.0 (Many new features) JaxCoder.com Latest Article: EventAggregator

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      Mike Hankey wrote:

      Chrome, then they wouldn't allow AdBlock

      Eh? I run Chrome and have never had a problem with AdBlock - or at least uBlock - except with YT who have been running a blocker war for a year or two now* Chrome has never refused to run it, and it "just works" with whitelists for sites like CP. * YT appears to be losing, with updates within hours of them changing it - and the number of people who use ad blockers going up because they had never heard of them before YT started trying to ban them ...

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Mike Hankey wrote:

        Chrome, then they wouldn't allow AdBlock

        Eh? I run Chrome and have never had a problem with AdBlock - or at least uBlock - except with YT who have been running a blocker war for a year or two now* Chrome has never refused to run it, and it "just works" with whitelists for sites like CP. * YT appears to be losing, with updates within hours of them changing it - and the number of people who use ad blockers going up because they had never heard of them before YT started trying to ban them ...

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        My gripe is with YouTube, they've gotten very aggressive with AdBlockers.

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Mike Hankey wrote:

          Chrome, then they wouldn't allow AdBlock

          Eh? I run Chrome and have never had a problem with AdBlock - or at least uBlock - except with YT who have been running a blocker war for a year or two now* Chrome has never refused to run it, and it "just works" with whitelists for sites like CP. * YT appears to be losing, with updates within hours of them changing it - and the number of people who use ad blockers going up because they had never heard of them before YT started trying to ban them ...

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          I'm still using uBlock with Chrome too without any problems.

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          • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

            My gripe is with YouTube, they've gotten very aggressive with AdBlockers.

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            They have, and more people are installing them as a result ... :laugh: If they didn't throw so many at each page they would probably get whitelisted more - but I've just opened a page (on the latest GTA V weekly update) and uBlock shows it blocked 77 ads on that single page ...

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              They have, and more people are installing them as a result ... :laugh: If they didn't throw so many at each page they would probably get whitelisted more - but I've just opened a page (on the latest GTA V weekly update) and uBlock shows it blocked 77 ads on that single page ...

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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              Needless sensory overload, it's no wonder that AdBlock and the like are so popular.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Mike Hankey wrote:

                Chrome, then they wouldn't allow AdBlock

                Eh? I run Chrome and have never had a problem with AdBlock - or at least uBlock - except with YT who have been running a blocker war for a year or two now* Chrome has never refused to run it, and it "just works" with whitelists for sites like CP. * YT appears to be losing, with updates within hours of them changing it - and the number of people who use ad blockers going up because they had never heard of them before YT started trying to ban them ...

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                IIRC, they're either planning to, or have already, reduce the capabilities of ad-blockers by enforcing "manifest v3". From what I've read, that means the ad-blocking extension needs to declare all domains it plans to block in advance; it can't use user-specified rules or dynamically-updated lists to decide which domains should be blocked. It seems like only AdBlock Plus are in favour of the change, and they have a financial relationship with Google. Firefox and Chrome are squaring off over ad blocker extensions - The Verge[^]


                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                  IIRC, they're either planning to, or have already, reduce the capabilities of ad-blockers by enforcing "manifest v3". From what I've read, that means the ad-blocking extension needs to declare all domains it plans to block in advance; it can't use user-specified rules or dynamically-updated lists to decide which domains should be blocked. It seems like only AdBlock Plus are in favour of the change, and they have a financial relationship with Google. Firefox and Chrome are squaring off over ad blocker extensions - The Verge[^]


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                  Richard Deeming wrote:

                  needs to declare all domains it plans to block in advance; it can't use user-specified rules or dynamically-updated lists to decide which domains should be blocked.

                  That's ridiculous - like having to specify which viruses a scanner is allowed to detect at installation.

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    My gripe is with YouTube, they've gotten very aggressive with AdBlockers.

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                    well it's probably due to the incessant spamming of ads. I am not paying google one f'g nickel.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      They have, and more people are installing them as a result ... :laugh: If they didn't throw so many at each page they would probably get whitelisted more - but I've just opened a page (on the latest GTA V weekly update) and uBlock shows it blocked 77 ads on that single page ...

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                      If they didn't throw so many at each page

                      I don't use an ad blocker, other than what the browser might block by default, and I use Pi-Hole separately--which can't do anything about the YT video ad(s) they play before each video. Those are getting increasingly annoying, to the point where I've given up on multiple instances and just closed the browser window because I figured I don't really need to watch a particular video after all, given I'm first presented with a 30s ad I can't skip...

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                        honey the codewitch wrote:

                        We have cookies.

                        So do browsers. :-D

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          and am now using uSoft Edge as my browser and I have to admit it's better than a sharp stick in the eye.

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                          It's really not that bad. I've always refused to commit to Chrome, so I was forced to pick something else when IE was officially declared dead (and more and more pages were now getting broken). I used the original "non-Chromium" version of Edge for maybe a grand total of 45 seconds when it was first introduced years ago. I'm liking Edge. I can't say which features I use are unique to it since I don't have Chrome installed anywhere so I can't compare, but perhaps first and foremost, I find it does a good job bringing back whatever was opened when you reboot the computer or accidentally close the entire browser instead of just the current tab.

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                            It's really not that bad. I've always refused to commit to Chrome, so I was forced to pick something else when IE was officially declared dead (and more and more pages were now getting broken). I used the original "non-Chromium" version of Edge for maybe a grand total of 45 seconds when it was first introduced years ago. I'm liking Edge. I can't say which features I use are unique to it since I don't have Chrome installed anywhere so I can't compare, but perhaps first and foremost, I find it does a good job bringing back whatever was opened when you reboot the computer or accidentally close the entire browser instead of just the current tab.

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                            The thing I like about FF and hate about Chrome is that you can drag a tab to a bookmark. With Chrome you have to hit the bookmark icon then wander through the choices and save. It's a lot easier to just drag it where you want it. Haven't tried it with edge. The only thing I don't like about FF is I can't do online banking with my bank, it gives all kinds of errors when I try to log on so am forced to used Edge.

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                            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                              The thing I like about FF and hate about Chrome is that you can drag a tab to a bookmark. With Chrome you have to hit the bookmark icon then wander through the choices and save. It's a lot easier to just drag it where you want it. Haven't tried it with edge. The only thing I don't like about FF is I can't do online banking with my bank, it gives all kinds of errors when I try to log on so am forced to used Edge.

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                              I can't say I've tried to save a URL as a favorite by dragging. I always use the Add to Favorites button, then pick the correct folder in the resulting popup. *Re-organizing* existing URLs by drag and drop--that, however, I do all the time and I find it works well enough.

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                                honey the codewitch wrote:

                                We have cookies.

                                So do browsers. :-D

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                                Browsers are similarly evil.

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