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  • J jschell

    There is an amusing science fiction short story from many years ago that describes a world where cars are limited by design to the roads built by the car company. So many problems like buying a car that will work on the roads between your house and job. And cross company agreements that allow more expensive cars to travel down other companies roads. I think there was a discussion of after market addons to allow cross road travel as well. I think the story was told from the perspective of a car dealer and how he was trying to show how his car was the best to a reluctant customer.

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    Someone could easily adapt that story to try to convince people that it's a good idea to have bicycles sharing the same streets that were initially designed for car use. Oh wait. There's already such a group of people.

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    • E englebart

      Yes. Instead of a real knob, there would be a picture of a knob on a touch screen that behaves nothing like a real knob!

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      Which you would slide back and forth.

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      • H honey the codewitch

        Because every single one I've ever used has let me down, in a big way at one point or another.

        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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        Early in my career, Serge, a middle management guy whom I also respected for his technical knowledge, told me that he sometimes had to deal with this kind of thing: Serge: I want 2+2=4 on the screen. Developers: We can do it, but it won't be elegant. We have to rewrite the operating system. Is that what you're talking about? :-D

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          Someone could easily adapt that story to try to convince people that it's a good idea to have bicycles sharing the same streets that were initially designed for car use. Oh wait. There's already such a group of people.

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          The pedestrians were there first. In some areas here, signs say that bicycle can use the whole lane.

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          • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

            I'd be interested in hearing why you hate all operating systems with the possible exception of QNX.

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            Because QNX is awesome.

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            • P Peter_in_2780

              Only a little OT. Around the millenium I helped administer some QNX based systems (VISA VAPs). Absolutely loved it. But they had their own Y2K bug! The standard c library definition of year in the time struct was "CE year minus 1900", not "CE year % 100", and the ls file dates reported year 100. Cosmetic issue only, but amusing. Probably occurred in a bunch of other *nixes too.

              Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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              One of the very few software adjustments I had to make for Y2K was to have our UI show the year as 00 rather than 100 -- DEC (ANSI) C on OpenVMS. And the DBAs had to alter some Oracle reports, if I recall correctly, to use RR rather than YY for the date.

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              • H honey the codewitch

                Because every single one I've ever used has let me down, in a big way at one point or another.

                Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                Surely not OpenVMS. :)

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  The pedestrians were there first. In some areas here, signs say that bicycle can use the whole lane.

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                  The pedestrians got their own sidewalks, on both sides of almost every street. Signs can say whatever they want, the laws of physics reign supreme. I used to work with a guy whose neighbor is now a quadriplegic, because some woman in a minivan "got blinded by the sun" and drifted into a dedicated bike lane and plowed into a group of them - that was at low speed. Cringe. Every summer I hear such stories, and it makes me downright angry. Awareness campaigns and increased fines are just a temporary feel-good measure. As I said in another thread elsewhere, I was about 7 years old when I understood that bicycles on roads already used by cars is just a (possibly fatal) accident waiting to happen, helmets be damned. I don't know why a grown-ass adult thinks he should take a chance. Nope. Nope, nope. Nope. Never. Not for me.

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                    The pedestrians got their own sidewalks, on both sides of almost every street. Signs can say whatever they want, the laws of physics reign supreme. I used to work with a guy whose neighbor is now a quadriplegic, because some woman in a minivan "got blinded by the sun" and drifted into a dedicated bike lane and plowed into a group of them - that was at low speed. Cringe. Every summer I hear such stories, and it makes me downright angry. Awareness campaigns and increased fines are just a temporary feel-good measure. As I said in another thread elsewhere, I was about 7 years old when I understood that bicycles on roads already used by cars is just a (possibly fatal) accident waiting to happen, helmets be damned. I don't know why a grown-ass adult thinks he should take a chance. Nope. Nope, nope. Nope. Never. Not for me.

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                    The streets pre-existed the cars. The cars are interlopers on our streets. I also haven't ridden my bicycle on a street for a long while. I've known two grown-assed men who were killed while doing so.

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      The streets pre-existed the cars. The cars are interlopers on our streets. I also haven't ridden my bicycle on a street for a long while. I've known two grown-assed men who were killed while doing so.

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                      PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                      The streets pre-existed the cars.

                      ...and I wrote: > The pedestrians got their own sidewalks Pretty much all streets got retrofitted to have sidewalks. Drivers are generally careful enough not to climb onto sidewalks with their cars. But when I see an existing street suddenly get bike lanes just by repainting lines on them...that just means the street just got narrower for everybody, which simply exacerbates the problem.

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                        The pedestrians got their own sidewalks, on both sides of almost every street. Signs can say whatever they want, the laws of physics reign supreme. I used to work with a guy whose neighbor is now a quadriplegic, because some woman in a minivan "got blinded by the sun" and drifted into a dedicated bike lane and plowed into a group of them - that was at low speed. Cringe. Every summer I hear such stories, and it makes me downright angry. Awareness campaigns and increased fines are just a temporary feel-good measure. As I said in another thread elsewhere, I was about 7 years old when I understood that bicycles on roads already used by cars is just a (possibly fatal) accident waiting to happen, helmets be damned. I don't know why a grown-ass adult thinks he should take a chance. Nope. Nope, nope. Nope. Never. Not for me.

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                        dandy72 wrote:

                        helmets be damned.

                        Helmets do make it a bit easier to find the detached head of motorcycle riders after they crash though.

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                        • J jschell

                          dandy72 wrote:

                          helmets be damned.

                          Helmets do make it a bit easier to find the detached head of motorcycle riders after they crash though.

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                          True. And if it's dark, you won't mistake a clump of hair/scalp for a chunk of top-soil with grass growing out of it. (as reported by a tow-truck driving acquaintance of mine...he still has nightmares)

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