If you could run all your apps (games too) on Linux?
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If you could run all of your apps & games on Linux… Would you switch to a Linux desktop? Why? Or Why not? I’ll go first. Yes. I would switch. I already switched back in 2019 & I’ve been happy. I couldn’t even run everything I wanted to run (a couple of games and Atmel Studio (embedded IDE which is a variant of VStudio, only runs on windows) Why? Updates are amazing on Linux (rarely do they cause any down time — no sitting & staring at update screen like Windows) I like development on Linux. I like hobbyist “family” of Linux where it is “us against them”. :rolleyes: I also do Android programming and Android Studio runs better on Linux. Linux typically uses a lot less RAM than Windows which is nice.
The last time I tried to use Linux as my main Desktop OS, I tried to create a shortcut on the desktop. Turns out, that's not really a thing in Linux. Then it turns out that "Create Folder" shortcuts whilst saving things weren't ever implemented. After a few things like this, I realized that it wasn't yet ready for being a daily driver, and went back to Windows.
-= Reelix =-
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Yeah I have an NVidia GPU & I have had issues. I had one bad problem I didn’t understand & i ended up doing a complete re-install of Ubuntu (which I later discovered was not necessary). I have hit the pain points using Linux but I had a backup windows laptop if I got into trouble and that kept me going. The switch will not be without pain. I also had all of my data backed up so I didnn’t lose anything on re-install.
I've been running NVIDIA on Linux Mint for about 8 years give or take. People way NVIDIA is a problem, but other than one instance where an upgraded package left me without X-Windows (which was fixed by removing the package manually and installing it again), I've never had an issue. Other than that issue, and some hardware problems where the machine locked up when running GPU intensive workloads (because the heatsink and fan fell of the video card) Linux has been rock solid and never skipped a beat. Complaints: I was not able to get the Samsung mobile phone backup software to work under Linux a few years back - so I had to use Windows for that once when I changed phones. Discord wants a package re-install about once per week. You start it up, it tells links you to an updated .deb file, and you download and install it either by double clicking on it from the Gui, or manually according to your preference. That might be because Firefox is my default browser and it doesn't run remote code. Chrome is available and also works. Otherwise, everything pretty much works. Not only do I not miss Windows at all - I feel sad when I have to use it for work . . .
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No. Why? In one word (or maybe two) - VisualStudio. There is nothing in Linux world that comes close to it; not by a mile; not by many miles. I've tried over the years a few times and all the substitutes were so poor, specially on the debugging side, that I was relieved when I got back to Windows. Another gripe I have with Linux world, this time as a user, not a developer, is the endless list of options where there isn't one that is obviously better. You could use GNOME or KDE or Xface or Cinnamon or (any other of 30+ desktop environments out there). Makes you want to go back to the command line but there are tens of distros, each one with it's own idiosyncrasies and slight incompatibilities. All that makes me use Linux only for small gizmos like the many RPis and BeagleBones I use for work and around the house. General rule is: find a working configuration and don't touch it unless you're forced to.
Mircea
I'm not a professional developer, and I don't know if the Visual Studio version is a poor second cousin for support, but this site suggests it is available for Linux. Download Visual Studio Tools - Install Free for Windows, Mac, Linux[^] Personally though, every time I've cut any code, I've been super happy with the tools that come with Linux - though I get a new user might take a little while to discover them all. I guess it depends on what you do.
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Likewise. I have had one NVIDIA update not install properly in eight years (and in fairness, installing Video drivers in Windows was not a great experience either). I've also had self inflicted pain where I've overridden dependencies and caused later issues, but not recently either. I suspect that is pretty dependent on the distribution you use. I've used Debian, Mint and Ubuntu mainly for the past more than 8 years as a full time daily driver.
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Real men use [QNX](https://blackberry.qnx.com/en)... on a Raspberry Pi... underwater.
Jeremy Falcon
I haven't tried it underwater yet, but Linux does run nicely on the Pi.
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The last time I tried to use Linux as my main Desktop OS, I tried to create a shortcut on the desktop. Turns out, that's not really a thing in Linux. Then it turns out that "Create Folder" shortcuts whilst saving things weren't ever implemented. After a few things like this, I realized that it wasn't yet ready for being a daily driver, and went back to Windows.
-= Reelix =-
Reelix wrote:
I tried to create a shortcut on the desktop
That is actually quite a pain to do. I've written my own apps and then had to create the desktop file & it is a complete pain so you are right about that one. They should make it much easier to do.
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If you could run all of your apps & games on Linux… Would you switch to a Linux desktop? Why? Or Why not? I’ll go first. Yes. I would switch. I already switched back in 2019 & I’ve been happy. I couldn’t even run everything I wanted to run (a couple of games and Atmel Studio (embedded IDE which is a variant of VStudio, only runs on windows) Why? Updates are amazing on Linux (rarely do they cause any down time — no sitting & staring at update screen like Windows) I like development on Linux. I like hobbyist “family” of Linux where it is “us against them”. :rolleyes: I also do Android programming and Android Studio runs better on Linux. Linux typically uses a lot less RAM than Windows which is nice.
Wish it was possible and legal to viably run Cubase 10.5 (or higher) and Native Instruments Kontakt on GNU\Linux. Ever since after Build 1809 of Windows 10, Microsoft has become a poor choice for professional audio. While Macs are rumored to run both of the above products flawlessly, there are stupid expensive. I've actually briefly uses Macs for Garage Band and simple things, and the experience was good, but I've never really stressed it out like I do with Cubase on Win 10. Unfortunately, Windows 10 these days does dumb things like freeze for seemingly random reasons for several seconds at weird times or just drop audio packets. Driver support (while probably better than on the Mac) is also starting to wane and semi-pro amateurs and practicing musicians are sometimes forced to upgrade their expensive audio interfaces for no other reason than the vendors and Microsoft refuse to support or rewrite the old drivers. I've had OS crashes because of old drivers, and I've had audio glitches in situations where I shouldn't because MS Windows decides to do dumb background tasks at random times. Steinberg ASIO under Windows XP 64 Bit uses to be a solid platform bot Win 10/11 are not glitchy IMO. The audio dropouts and glitches seem to be worse when Microsoft pushes out their regular updates. Fortunately, my Win 10 hasn't received updates in quite a while (LOL).
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If you could run all of your apps & games on Linux… Would you switch to a Linux desktop? Why? Or Why not? I’ll go first. Yes. I would switch. I already switched back in 2019 & I’ve been happy. I couldn’t even run everything I wanted to run (a couple of games and Atmel Studio (embedded IDE which is a variant of VStudio, only runs on windows) Why? Updates are amazing on Linux (rarely do they cause any down time — no sitting & staring at update screen like Windows) I like development on Linux. I like hobbyist “family” of Linux where it is “us against them”. :rolleyes: I also do Android programming and Android Studio runs better on Linux. Linux typically uses a lot less RAM than Windows which is nice.
raddevus wrote:
If you could run all of your apps & games on Linux…
What about muscle memory? I know where windows services are. I know how to find the mouse settings. I know how to bring up task manager. etc. If all of those are duplicated then what exactly would be the difference?
raddevus wrote:
no sitting & staring at update screen like Windows)
Solution, so don't do that? At the end of the day I shutdown my computer. No hibernate. No sleep. Everything closed. Just habit probably because I want to make sure of the state of everything. So if it wants to update I just walk away.
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If you could run all of your apps & games on Linux… Would you switch to a Linux desktop? Why? Or Why not? I’ll go first. Yes. I would switch. I already switched back in 2019 & I’ve been happy. I couldn’t even run everything I wanted to run (a couple of games and Atmel Studio (embedded IDE which is a variant of VStudio, only runs on windows) Why? Updates are amazing on Linux (rarely do they cause any down time — no sitting & staring at update screen like Windows) I like development on Linux. I like hobbyist “family” of Linux where it is “us against them”. :rolleyes: I also do Android programming and Android Studio runs better on Linux. Linux typically uses a lot less RAM than Windows which is nice.
Glad to hear that people have switched to Linux and are happy with it... I've been trying to, if not ‘switch to’, at least use it significantly, alongside Windows, since the late nineties. No luck so far, but I’m persistent! The arguments for using Linux were: independence from the big bad wolf (Gates), lightweight, no BSOD, no viruses (hence no antivirus penalty), unbelievable stability and no need to reboot after every update, etc. Most of these arguments are not valid anymore: there are viruses and malware targeting Linux, the reboot after (almost daily) updates is a rule, I had crashes of the OS that I never seen on Win. for decades, programs crashing, or not working, on a weekly basis, etc. etc. In the last couple of days, I’ve been trying to repair Kate – a basic text editor, similar to Notepad – which was crushing and losing all typed text :(( , when trying to save the file(!). I’ve installed Kate a few months back, when the previous text editor (gedit I think) stopped working! Did anyone had any major problems with Notepad lately?! After pulling my hair for some time and searching the internet for solutions (THE MAIN ACTIVITY on Linux!… BY FAR!), I gave up. Then I’ve tried to use the newly installed STM32CubeIDE… It wouldn’t start, because, when starting, the first thing it does is to check for updates. Aaaand, it can’t take them because I’m the wrong user (not root). Another couple of hours later, after new research online, it turns out, it was installed as root, and to a different location! This is not Windows! You can not just click on an icon and install the program, after a few ‘Next’s, eventually. There are a myriad of sources, packages, dependencies, and, and, and… that one can use, and mostly not well (or at all) documented – even when they come from a reputable source as STM Microelectronics! And, after a painful installation of an application, come the problems: where is it installed?! It might not (fully) work, it can’t be updated, how can you uninstall it (and this can be a big problem, because months later you need to know exactly how you installed it!) I’ve been thru all this, again, while having to uninstall, and install a new version, in a 'different way' the CubeIDE. :sigh: After almost 30 years of Linux, I still can’t say how to do a proper, sensible backup! There are always a thousand ways and tools to do it, none that properly works! But hey, you got what you paid for, ain’t you?! Would you be happy with that end?! What about your time, life, neurons?! Another major probl
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Mircea Neacsu wrote:
VisualStudio. There is nothing in Linux world that comes close to it
Have you never used emacs? :laugh:
You're kidding right! Emacs has a steep learning curve and most users can't handle it. I come from Bell Labs Unix where I used both emacs and vi a lot. Windows in my opinion and experience lacks the power of the command line that is available in nix, however powershell comes close but relies too much on .net.
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You're kidding right! Emacs has a steep learning curve and most users can't handle it. I come from Bell Labs Unix where I used both emacs and vi a lot. Windows in my opinion and experience lacks the power of the command line that is available in nix, however powershell comes close but relies too much on .net.