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  • D David ONeil

    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

    You're going to have to show me examples over the Nazi propaganda because everything I've seen is a load of nonsense.

    Disney, Microsoft ads on Twitter show up next to neo-Nazi propaganda: report[^]. From your tone, you've already determined it is nonsense, so this is pointless.

    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

    So, thinking just because someone is Jewish doesn't mean they're automatically right about everything makes me sound conservative?

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    You can't disagree with anyone who's Jewish now? Doing so makes you Hitler?

    Don't know how you reached the first of these quotations in your last post. I was just saying that the quote in my first post sounded like you were just parroting conservative radio. In my experience, conservative radio has fabricated a whole alternate reality that doesn't reflect our current one. One of those discrepancies is the 'liberals' I'm aware of think you can criticize Israel while still supporting the idea of Israel. Conservative radio says we are all Israel-hating communist/socialist scum. Fundamentally, it seems our 'oligarchs' want to blindly support Israel because there is money in it for them. So they cast 'conservatives' and 'liberals' against each other through culture wars, and continue down their path of greed and corruption, and we buy it all up, like good consumers. Even hating each other because we have been told to do so.

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    Dude, that movie is 12 hours long. :laugh: I mean, I'm trying to do my due diligence, but dang. :laugh: So, to save me 12 hours... let's just assume it's an anti-Jew movie. The way I see it, free speech is free speech and it amazes me how selective people are about that with their knee-jerk reactions and labels... even if I don't like it at all.

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      Dude, that movie is 12 hours long. :laugh: I mean, I'm trying to do my due diligence, but dang. :laugh: So, to save me 12 hours... let's just assume it's an anti-Jew movie. The way I see it, free speech is free speech and it amazes me how selective people are about that with their knee-jerk reactions and labels... even if I don't like it at all.

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      David ONeil
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      Obviously, I've triggered something in you. If you think that advertisers refusing to do business with Twitter because their ads might be placed next to a video (or any other type of hate speech) is 'manipulation/control,' then I don't know what to say. Everyone, everywhere, tries to 'manipulate/control' us through money, but you aren't calling that out - just the Twitter shit. Have a great one in spite of our differences! If you are open to seeing another side of Musk, google "elon musk Thailand cave pedophile" - he comes off as a complete narcissist looking for public affirmation, even if he did later retract his words.

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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        Dude, that movie is 12 hours long. :laugh: I mean, I'm trying to do my due diligence, but dang. :laugh: So, to save me 12 hours... let's just assume it's an anti-Jew movie. The way I see it, free speech is free speech and it amazes me how selective people are about that with their knee-jerk reactions and labels... even if I don't like it at all.

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        And for more fun: WhistlinDiesel Cybertruck Durability Test #1[^] - that guy has a lot more money than anyone I know.

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        • D David ONeil

          And for more fun: WhistlinDiesel Cybertruck Durability Test #1[^] - that guy has a lot more money than anyone I know.

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          Oh, I already know there are manufacturing issues with the cyber truck. But, that doesn't make me hate the guy disproportionately. My whole point is people blindly worship then news and don't think for themselves. Companies like Nabisco were far worse, but nobody will care until the news tells them its time to hate something new.

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          • D David ONeil

            Obviously, I've triggered something in you. If you think that advertisers refusing to do business with Twitter because their ads might be placed next to a video (or any other type of hate speech) is 'manipulation/control,' then I don't know what to say. Everyone, everywhere, tries to 'manipulate/control' us through money, but you aren't calling that out - just the Twitter shit. Have a great one in spite of our differences! If you are open to seeing another side of Musk, google "elon musk Thailand cave pedophile" - he comes off as a complete narcissist looking for public affirmation, even if he did later retract his words.

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            David O'Neil wrote:

            Obviously, I've triggered something in you. If you think that advertisers refusing to do business with Twitter because their ads might be placed next to a video (or any other type of hate speech) is 'manipulation/control,'

            I don't think that. I think you're not following what I'm saying. I'm saying Disney tried to get him to change his ways so to speak. I've already mentioned if they just _silently_ stopped it would be no big deal. So, just guessing you're skimming over my posts.

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            Have a great one in spite of our differences!

            You too man. I hope we're still BFFs. :laugh:

            David O'Neil wrote:

            he comes off as a complete narcissist looking for public affirmation, even if he did later retract his words

            I don't know anything about this story, but I do know this only proves what I've been saying... people are too sensitive and getting butt hurt. After a quick skim on page one of Google, all I know for certain is Musk called some dude a pedo, he got upset, and Musk was proven innocent in court. Again, I don't believe Musk is perfect. Not at all. But my entire point has been all this hate towards him is people being mind controlled by the media. There are far, far worse people that nobody cares about. Why? Because nobody actually cares about being a good person. No, they just wait for the media to tell him who to hate next. So, for the sake of argument, let's just say he's a douche. I don't agree, but let's pretend. 1) My point still remains. 2) He's at least a douche trying to restore something humanity lost.

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              David O'Neil wrote:

              Obviously, I've triggered something in you. If you think that advertisers refusing to do business with Twitter because their ads might be placed next to a video (or any other type of hate speech) is 'manipulation/control,'

              I don't think that. I think you're not following what I'm saying. I'm saying Disney tried to get him to change his ways so to speak. I've already mentioned if they just _silently_ stopped it would be no big deal. So, just guessing you're skimming over my posts.

              David O'Neil wrote:

              Have a great one in spite of our differences!

              You too man. I hope we're still BFFs. :laugh:

              David O'Neil wrote:

              he comes off as a complete narcissist looking for public affirmation, even if he did later retract his words

              I don't know anything about this story, but I do know this only proves what I've been saying... people are too sensitive and getting butt hurt. After a quick skim on page one of Google, all I know for certain is Musk called some dude a pedo, he got upset, and Musk was proven innocent in court. Again, I don't believe Musk is perfect. Not at all. But my entire point has been all this hate towards him is people being mind controlled by the media. There are far, far worse people that nobody cares about. Why? Because nobody actually cares about being a good person. No, they just wait for the media to tell him who to hate next. So, for the sake of argument, let's just say he's a douche. I don't agree, but let's pretend. 1) My point still remains. 2) He's at least a douche trying to restore something humanity lost.

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              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              I've already mentioned if they just silently stopped

              Where is the loud public proclamation by Disney you speak of? As far as I've seen, Disney didn't say anything until after Iger (sp?) was asked. Disney didn’t proactively say, 'do this or else' you seem to implying they did when ads were pulled. Did I miss something? It seems pretty silent at the time.

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              • D David ONeil

                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                I've already mentioned if they just silently stopped

                Where is the loud public proclamation by Disney you speak of? As far as I've seen, Disney didn't say anything until after Iger (sp?) was asked. Disney didn’t proactively say, 'do this or else' you seem to implying they did when ads were pulled. Did I miss something? It seems pretty silent at the time.

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                I'm just going off of an interview of his. Now, if he was lying, well dang it. :laugh: I didn't dig deeper into it because if I was going to find reasons to not like him, I would've done it _before_ the media told me to and Disney has already shown their true colors in other ways. Probably doesn't help that fact that there are a ton of horror stories from workers at Disney, and I already don't like them for their subliminal messaging to kids. Also, I've known peeps that worked there too, as devs. I've also interviewed a couple of times with them and firsthand experienced severe arrogance and weird vibes with their IT dept at least. So, my bias was inclined towards "bruh" without further investigation.

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                  David O'Neil wrote:

                  No, that wasn't politics. It was advertising. Their ads were literally appearing next to Nazi propaganda and hate speech. It becomes politics if politicians force them to buy ads under such circumstances.

                  It is politics. Only the Left says that man. Like, self-awareness and whatnot. You're going to have to show me examples over the Nazi propaganda because everything I've seen is a load of nonsense. Musk already said more than once he's defending free speech as long as it's legal. Nothing wrong with that, even if someone wants to creating something out of thin air. All he's doing is rolling back the clock before the thought police took over. The fact is, companies like Disney tried to manipulate him. All they had to do was silently not advertise. But, back to the original point... no they used their dollars in an attempt to _control_ him. That's why he said what he said. I'll never understand why some people can't get this simple fact. Hate for the next target by the news isn't rational that's for sure.

                  David O'Neil wrote:

                  Sounds like a quote from the conservative radio stations my father listens to.

                  So, thinking just because someone is Jewish doesn't mean they're automatically right about everything makes me sound conservative? Ok, sure.

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                  Have a great day!

                  Ditto :thumbsup:

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                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                  Musk already said more than once he's defending free speech as long as it's legal.

                  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Keep drinking his koolaid. I'm sure it's perfectly fine. :) I can only assume you haven't looked at "xitter" since the take-over. There's a perfect example of Musk's "free speech absolutist" principals on his own timeline. He posted a message claiming absolute support for free speech; someone replied with just the word "cisgender"; that reply was censored for violating their policies against "hate speech". :doh: X now treats the term cisgender as a slur[^] Pretty much every self-proclaimed champion of "free speech" only cares about protecting their own opinions. As soon as someone says something they don't like, they turn into Mary Whitehouse's even more puritanical aunt.


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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    Musk already said more than once he's defending free speech as long as it's legal.

                    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Keep drinking his koolaid. I'm sure it's perfectly fine. :) I can only assume you haven't looked at "xitter" since the take-over. There's a perfect example of Musk's "free speech absolutist" principals on his own timeline. He posted a message claiming absolute support for free speech; someone replied with just the word "cisgender"; that reply was censored for violating their policies against "hate speech". :doh: X now treats the term cisgender as a slur[^] Pretty much every self-proclaimed champion of "free speech" only cares about protecting their own opinions. As soon as someone says something they don't like, they turn into Mary Whitehouse's even more puritanical aunt.


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                    Richard, you lost me at the Kool-aid comment. This conversation is beneath me and is insulting to my intellect. Do better.

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                      Richard, you lost me at the Kool-aid comment. This conversation is beneath me and is insulting to my intellect. Do better.

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                      Yeah, keep ignoring any evidence that your techbro hero isn't the "free speech absolutist" he wants you to think he is. You can just claim the conversation is "beneath you", ignore it, and move on. :laugh:


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                        Yeah, keep ignoring any evidence that your techbro hero isn't the "free speech absolutist" he wants you to think he is. You can just claim the conversation is "beneath you", ignore it, and move on. :laugh:


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                        You can think whatever the hell you want, Richard. I'm not wasting time with you.

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