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  • C charlieg

    I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy. So, Microsoft rolls out OS and application updates constantly, and sometime in the past (and I know it's been a while) they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive. They clearly did not think this through, or maybe they did and it's anal retentive. What software company changes user defaults? Let me re-phrase, what competent software company does this? I get MS wants us to use the cloud so that everything is backed up, but I now have documentation in assorted locations, and I need to figure out the most current. It does not help I'm picking this up after 2 months of downtime. This is up there with the automatic reboots. I swear, I'll punch these people if I ever meet them.

    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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    I would switch to Linux in a heartbeat and Ubuntu installed with Virtual Box on my workstation-laptop. However, nothing compares to working with Visual Studio. Even JetBrains Rider feels like a half-baked product...

    Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

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    • C charlieg

      I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy. So, Microsoft rolls out OS and application updates constantly, and sometime in the past (and I know it's been a while) they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive. They clearly did not think this through, or maybe they did and it's anal retentive. What software company changes user defaults? Let me re-phrase, what competent software company does this? I get MS wants us to use the cloud so that everything is backed up, but I now have documentation in assorted locations, and I need to figure out the most current. It does not help I'm picking this up after 2 months of downtime. This is up there with the automatic reboots. I swear, I'll punch these people if I ever meet them.

      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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      dandy72
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      charlieg wrote:

      they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive

      ...the default of save locations of what, exactly? Browser download location? Notepad's Save As? My browser came with some default Download location - undoubtedly the OS's Downloads folder. It seems to remember whatever it is I used last time, and always suggest that until you change your download location again. Seems reasonable, I'd do that in my own apps. I believe the default Save location of Notepad works the same say. Whatever it last saved to, that's what comes up next time.

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        charlieg wrote:

        they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive

        ...the default of save locations of what, exactly? Browser download location? Notepad's Save As? My browser came with some default Download location - undoubtedly the OS's Downloads folder. It seems to remember whatever it is I used last time, and always suggest that until you change your download location again. Seems reasonable, I'd do that in my own apps. I believe the default Save location of Notepad works the same say. Whatever it last saved to, that's what comes up next time.

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        I cannot speak for notepad, but in this case, Office changed the default save location. I open a doc in My Documents on my system, and it defaults to saving it in one drive. Having used office for the last 25 years, I never picked up on it until I realized I had two copies. This has nothing to do with browsers and downloads. I refuse to use Edge, and so far Opera has behaved itself. There was another MS application that started this crap. Oh yeah, Outlook. In another example of scum baggery, Microsoft changed outlook to default to Edge. You know the defaults you set up for your system? Well MS added a specific setting to Outlook that overrode the system wide setting. Fair admission - this might have been related to Enterprise settings though I don't see how. My past customer allowed us to use Office under their corporate license. Even so, I refused to allow them to add my laptop to the domain, so I'm not sure how enterprise settings would make it to my PC.

        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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        • C charlieg

          I cannot speak for notepad, but in this case, Office changed the default save location. I open a doc in My Documents on my system, and it defaults to saving it in one drive. Having used office for the last 25 years, I never picked up on it until I realized I had two copies. This has nothing to do with browsers and downloads. I refuse to use Edge, and so far Opera has behaved itself. There was another MS application that started this crap. Oh yeah, Outlook. In another example of scum baggery, Microsoft changed outlook to default to Edge. You know the defaults you set up for your system? Well MS added a specific setting to Outlook that overrode the system wide setting. Fair admission - this might have been related to Enterprise settings though I don't see how. My past customer allowed us to use Office under their corporate license. Even so, I refused to allow them to add my laptop to the domain, so I'm not sure how enterprise settings would make it to my PC.

          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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          charlieg wrote:

          Office changed the default save location. I open a doc in My Documents on my system, and it defaults to saving it in one drive.

          Given the online version of Office, and that MS is pushing people hard to use OneDrive, I can't say I would be entirely surprised if that was the default suggested when saving new files written from scratch...but opening an existing file from a local folder, but saving into another (creating a separate copy, as you say)? That's just nasty. And downright evil, given most people have a hard time wrapping their heads around the concept (and they know it).

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            What's so special about Sunday?

            Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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            Good morning. It does not change your default location if you have ever set it before. If you have never set a default location, then it will change its default location. On my work PC I save locally to my shared drives, on my tiny tablet-PC I save to Onedrive because I have very little space on that tablet. You can change the default save location when you go save a file. I hope this helps with at least the anger. Have a great day!

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            • C charlieg

              I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy. So, Microsoft rolls out OS and application updates constantly, and sometime in the past (and I know it's been a while) they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive. They clearly did not think this through, or maybe they did and it's anal retentive. What software company changes user defaults? Let me re-phrase, what competent software company does this? I get MS wants us to use the cloud so that everything is backed up, but I now have documentation in assorted locations, and I need to figure out the most current. It does not help I'm picking this up after 2 months of downtime. This is up there with the automatic reboots. I swear, I'll punch these people if I ever meet them.

              Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              Choroid
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              Back in the day when you bought a computer it was called a "Personal Computer" ONLY because the only people who owned computers were corporations. Being called Personal we believed we owned it and controlled said machine. Then we connected our PC to the internet and bought software from companies who would offer FREE updates. Then they started asking for Personal information for updates. Next they figured out they did not need to ask just take it when you interacted with them. None of this is a News Flash to anyone on this forum I wanted to ask help with a issue with Visual Studio 2019 but it seemed like a programming question so I will post a question. My latest issue with MS is the update says it failed and when I close my computer the updated is installed twice. The other issue is if I step away from the computer for 5 min the update gets down loaded and installed with no authorization from me. YES I have the setting "Check for updates let me choose to download and install" Here is a gem that gets sent every time I start my computer of if I walk away for 10 min it installs 5 of these messages. Warning: Failed to get value SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\16.11\ExtensionManager/ExtensionsAutoUpdated: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. [13d0:0001][2024-08-19T10:13:50] No update since last run. Skipping current operation.

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              • C charlieg

                I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy. So, Microsoft rolls out OS and application updates constantly, and sometime in the past (and I know it's been a while) they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive. They clearly did not think this through, or maybe they did and it's anal retentive. What software company changes user defaults? Let me re-phrase, what competent software company does this? I get MS wants us to use the cloud so that everything is backed up, but I now have documentation in assorted locations, and I need to figure out the most current. It does not help I'm picking this up after 2 months of downtime. This is up there with the automatic reboots. I swear, I'll punch these people if I ever meet them.

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                OneDrive MANY issues X| . When I discovered that, I googled how to get rid of OneDrive. Now gone for good. I don't know what hit Microsoft, they just do everything wrong :confused:.

                Gilles Plante

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                • T TheBugman

                  Good morning. It does not change your default location if you have ever set it before. If you have never set a default location, then it will change its default location. On my work PC I save locally to my shared drives, on my tiny tablet-PC I save to Onedrive because I have very little space on that tablet. You can change the default save location when you go save a file. I hope this helps with at least the anger. Have a great day!

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                  Peter_in_2780
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                  You replied to the wrong message in this thread.

                  Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                  • P Peter_in_2780

                    You replied to the wrong message in this thread.

                    Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                    TheBugman
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                    This was your post: I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy. So, Microsoft rolls out OS and application updates constantly, and sometime in the past (and I know it's been a while) they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive. They clearly did not think this through, or maybe they did and it's anal retentive. What software company changes user defaults? Let me re-phrase, what competent software company does this? I get MS wants us to use the cloud so that everything is backed up, but I now have documentation in assorted locations, and I need to figure out the most current. It does not help I'm picking this up after 2 months of downtime. This is up there with the automatic reboots. I swear, I'll punch these people if I ever meet them. My answer addressed the fact that it does not change the default location and that I have several machines that have their own default location. You have to set them first before they become your custom default locations. That sounds to me like dead on what you said. Other people also addressed the same and corrected you. I wish you luck with your understanding of how software works.

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                      This was your post: I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy. So, Microsoft rolls out OS and application updates constantly, and sometime in the past (and I know it's been a while) they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive. They clearly did not think this through, or maybe they did and it's anal retentive. What software company changes user defaults? Let me re-phrase, what competent software company does this? I get MS wants us to use the cloud so that everything is backed up, but I now have documentation in assorted locations, and I need to figure out the most current. It does not help I'm picking this up after 2 months of downtime. This is up there with the automatic reboots. I swear, I'll punch these people if I ever meet them. My answer addressed the fact that it does not change the default location and that I have several machines that have their own default location. You have to set them first before they become your custom default locations. That sounds to me like dead on what you said. Other people also addressed the same and corrected you. I wish you luck with your understanding of how software works.

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                      Peter_in_2780
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                      Have another look. The post you were trying to reply to was from @charlieg, not me. He will probably be unamused at your message.

                      Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                      • T TheBugman

                        This was your post: I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy. So, Microsoft rolls out OS and application updates constantly, and sometime in the past (and I know it's been a while) they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive. They clearly did not think this through, or maybe they did and it's anal retentive. What software company changes user defaults? Let me re-phrase, what competent software company does this? I get MS wants us to use the cloud so that everything is backed up, but I now have documentation in assorted locations, and I need to figure out the most current. It does not help I'm picking this up after 2 months of downtime. This is up there with the automatic reboots. I swear, I'll punch these people if I ever meet them. My answer addressed the fact that it does not change the default location and that I have several machines that have their own default location. You have to set them first before they become your custom default locations. That sounds to me like dead on what you said. Other people also addressed the same and corrected you. I wish you luck with your understanding of how software works.

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                        charlieg
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                        whoops, my bad.

                        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                        • C charlieg

                          I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy. So, Microsoft rolls out OS and application updates constantly, and sometime in the past (and I know it's been a while) they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive. They clearly did not think this through, or maybe they did and it's anal retentive. What software company changes user defaults? Let me re-phrase, what competent software company does this? I get MS wants us to use the cloud so that everything is backed up, but I now have documentation in assorted locations, and I need to figure out the most current. It does not help I'm picking this up after 2 months of downtime. This is up there with the automatic reboots. I swear, I'll punch these people if I ever meet them.

                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                          realJSOP
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                          It's not so that everything is backed up - it's so they can access it without you knowing about it.

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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