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    charlieg
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    So, I asked the audience what they thought, and I am now playing with Ubuntu Pops. I am reading through all of the posts, and since I have beaucoup storage, I can easily spin up a new vm and play. Oddly, I cannot set the desktop resolution to my native monitor resolution of 2560x1400. It wants to use 2560x1600 which annoys the living hell out of me. In searching, I come across this command: "xrandr". Now, imagine my surprise when I type "man xrandr" and get 50+ options. This is the Unix problem trying to map out the Microsoft insanity. I'd cut and paste the man page, but Unix doesn't coexist well with Windows yet (pretty sure it's a vmware thing - a whole different bucket of worms). It's okay, I just had to laugh a bit. This is small potatoes compared to the in-laws.

    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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      So, I asked the audience what they thought, and I am now playing with Ubuntu Pops. I am reading through all of the posts, and since I have beaucoup storage, I can easily spin up a new vm and play. Oddly, I cannot set the desktop resolution to my native monitor resolution of 2560x1400. It wants to use 2560x1600 which annoys the living hell out of me. In searching, I come across this command: "xrandr". Now, imagine my surprise when I type "man xrandr" and get 50+ options. This is the Unix problem trying to map out the Microsoft insanity. I'd cut and paste the man page, but Unix doesn't coexist well with Windows yet (pretty sure it's a vmware thing - a whole different bucket of worms). It's okay, I just had to laugh a bit. This is small potatoes compared to the in-laws.

      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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      Peter_in_2780
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      hit xrandr with NO options. it'll tell you your choices of resolution that are supported.

      Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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        So, I asked the audience what they thought, and I am now playing with Ubuntu Pops. I am reading through all of the posts, and since I have beaucoup storage, I can easily spin up a new vm and play. Oddly, I cannot set the desktop resolution to my native monitor resolution of 2560x1400. It wants to use 2560x1600 which annoys the living hell out of me. In searching, I come across this command: "xrandr". Now, imagine my surprise when I type "man xrandr" and get 50+ options. This is the Unix problem trying to map out the Microsoft insanity. I'd cut and paste the man page, but Unix doesn't coexist well with Windows yet (pretty sure it's a vmware thing - a whole different bucket of worms). It's okay, I just had to laugh a bit. This is small potatoes compared to the in-laws.

        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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        Jeremy Falcon
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        This may be a VMWare thing. Have you installed [Open VM Tools](https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Tools/12.4.0/com.vmware.vsphere.vmwaretools.doc/GUID-C48E1F14-240D-4DD1-8D4C-25B6EBE4BB0F.html) yet on the Guest OS?

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          This may be a VMWare thing. Have you installed [Open VM Tools](https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Tools/12.4.0/com.vmware.vsphere.vmwaretools.doc/GUID-C48E1F14-240D-4DD1-8D4C-25B6EBE4BB0F.html) yet on the Guest OS?

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          charlieg
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          trying. the machine I'm working on has vmplayer, the other machine has my licensed version of workstation pro, they don't play the same. I'm more familiar with workstation. but I agree. Digging through it. I smell my first article coming on. :)

          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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            hit xrandr with NO options. it'll tell you your choices of resolution that are supported.

            Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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            charlieg
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            teetering on into programming or system questions, so I did that. Still working on the cut/paste issue, but that little feature was lost in the noise. Maybe the most useful feature. With linux, one does not run random commands like "rm -f /.*" or however you ruin your day. :) So, I would never have thought of that. But I'm getting back into the pool, it's going to be 95 here today, so I'm going to the pool. The part that interests me is why xrandr would not detect a display at 2560x1440? This smells like a VMware tools issue... working it.

            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              teetering on into programming or system questions, so I did that. Still working on the cut/paste issue, but that little feature was lost in the noise. Maybe the most useful feature. With linux, one does not run random commands like "rm -f /.*" or however you ruin your day. :) So, I would never have thought of that. But I'm getting back into the pool, it's going to be 95 here today, so I'm going to the pool. The part that interests me is why xrandr would not detect a display at 2560x1440? This smells like a VMware tools issue... working it.

              Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              Peter_in_2780
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              Yeah xrandr will only offer you what the underlying driver supports, and that can be many layers removed from the hardware.

              Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                So, I asked the audience what they thought, and I am now playing with Ubuntu Pops. I am reading through all of the posts, and since I have beaucoup storage, I can easily spin up a new vm and play. Oddly, I cannot set the desktop resolution to my native monitor resolution of 2560x1400. It wants to use 2560x1600 which annoys the living hell out of me. In searching, I come across this command: "xrandr". Now, imagine my surprise when I type "man xrandr" and get 50+ options. This is the Unix problem trying to map out the Microsoft insanity. I'd cut and paste the man page, but Unix doesn't coexist well with Windows yet (pretty sure it's a vmware thing - a whole different bucket of worms). It's okay, I just had to laugh a bit. This is small potatoes compared to the in-laws.

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                honey the codewitch
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                I've not found a VM that works for me presently except WSL. VMWare is glitchy as hell these days. For example I go to backspace, and it keeps feeding backspaces into the buffer even after I've release the key. I have to kill VM Ware to make it stop. Two different PCs. VirtualBox has bad issues capturing USB. It works with some devices, but not others. WSL fails because of their removable storage hack, but you can work around it by recompiling the kernel and then exposing your removable storage from the windows side as an iSCSI device. From there you can connect in WSL like any other block device, format it with linux fs etc. Of all of those issues, the last one is the most manageable.

                Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                  Yeah xrandr will only offer you what the underlying driver supports, and that can be many layers removed from the hardware.

                  Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  Peter_in_2780 wrote:

                  what the underlying driver supports, and that can be many layers removed from the hardware

                  Ooh, the irony :-D.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                    I've not found a VM that works for me presently except WSL. VMWare is glitchy as hell these days. For example I go to backspace, and it keeps feeding backspaces into the buffer even after I've release the key. I have to kill VM Ware to make it stop. Two different PCs. VirtualBox has bad issues capturing USB. It works with some devices, but not others. WSL fails because of their removable storage hack, but you can work around it by recompiling the kernel and then exposing your removable storage from the windows side as an iSCSI device. From there you can connect in WSL like any other block device, format it with linux fs etc. Of all of those issues, the last one is the most manageable.

                    Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    honey the codewitch wrote:

                    VirtualBox has bad issues capturing USB. It works with some devices, but not others.

                    I had VirtualBox for a long time, using it mainly to test our installers. The IT gestapo found out and I had to uninstall it. They wanted me to use VMWare instead, but their install using our corporate license always failed :mad:. Debugging an installer issue now requires re-imaging a test machine with fresh Windows 10/11 in a lab 300 feet down the hallway, testing the install, trudging back to my desk and fixing the issue, lather-rinse-repeat :sigh: .

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                      honey the codewitch wrote:

                      VirtualBox has bad issues capturing USB. It works with some devices, but not others.

                      I had VirtualBox for a long time, using it mainly to test our installers. The IT gestapo found out and I had to uninstall it. They wanted me to use VMWare instead, but their install using our corporate license always failed :mad:. Debugging an installer issue now requires re-imaging a test machine with fresh Windows 10/11 in a lab 300 feet down the hallway, testing the install, trudging back to my desk and fixing the issue, lather-rinse-repeat :sigh: .

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      honey the codewitch
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                      Oh that's horrible, and makes me grateful I work out of my home.

                      Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                        Oh that's horrible, and makes me grateful I work out of my home.

                        Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                        Gary Wheeler
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                        I do get my steps in, however. This completely ignores the 4-5 miles I run at lunchtime three days a week, so...

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                          honey the codewitch wrote:

                          VirtualBox has bad issues capturing USB. It works with some devices, but not others.

                          I had VirtualBox for a long time, using it mainly to test our installers. The IT gestapo found out and I had to uninstall it. They wanted me to use VMWare instead, but their install using our corporate license always failed :mad:. Debugging an installer issue now requires re-imaging a test machine with fresh Windows 10/11 in a lab 300 feet down the hallway, testing the install, trudging back to my desk and fixing the issue, lather-rinse-repeat :sigh: .

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          obligatory: x.com[^]

                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                            So, I asked the audience what they thought, and I am now playing with Ubuntu Pops. I am reading through all of the posts, and since I have beaucoup storage, I can easily spin up a new vm and play. Oddly, I cannot set the desktop resolution to my native monitor resolution of 2560x1400. It wants to use 2560x1600 which annoys the living hell out of me. In searching, I come across this command: "xrandr". Now, imagine my surprise when I type "man xrandr" and get 50+ options. This is the Unix problem trying to map out the Microsoft insanity. I'd cut and paste the man page, but Unix doesn't coexist well with Windows yet (pretty sure it's a vmware thing - a whole different bucket of worms). It's okay, I just had to laugh a bit. This is small potatoes compared to the in-laws.

                            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                            BryanFazekas
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                            Install Ubuntu on a stick, boot from it, and see which options it offers. If it's different from the VM, you know where the problem lies.

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                              Install Ubuntu on a stick, boot from it, and see which options it offers. If it's different from the VM, you know where the problem lies.

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                              charlieg
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                              well that's just brilliant. I can do that (as he glances at his box full of usb sticks) :doh:

                              Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                well that's just brilliant. I can do that (as he glances at his box full of usb sticks) :doh:

                                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                BryanFazekas
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                                I mentioned in your previous thread about running from a stick. I've got several using different distros that I've played with. Balena Etcher is what I used last time (I think).

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                                  So, I asked the audience what they thought, and I am now playing with Ubuntu Pops. I am reading through all of the posts, and since I have beaucoup storage, I can easily spin up a new vm and play. Oddly, I cannot set the desktop resolution to my native monitor resolution of 2560x1400. It wants to use 2560x1600 which annoys the living hell out of me. In searching, I come across this command: "xrandr". Now, imagine my surprise when I type "man xrandr" and get 50+ options. This is the Unix problem trying to map out the Microsoft insanity. I'd cut and paste the man page, but Unix doesn't coexist well with Windows yet (pretty sure it's a vmware thing - a whole different bucket of worms). It's okay, I just had to laugh a bit. This is small potatoes compared to the in-laws.

                                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                  Shawn Eary May2021
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                                  I wouldn't run GNU\Linux in a VM unless I really had to. It runs well in a Hyper-V VM, but honestly, I would rather run GNU\Linux native and then run Win 10/11 in a QEMU/KVM host. I would run it as the Host OS and avoid MS Windows. The only think I really need MS Windows for is Cubase and AquaKitty UDX. AVLinux used to be a really good GNU\Linux distro until the maintainer switched over to the enlightenment engine. His old engine that I think was based on XFCE was better IMO and there were less bugs. Now I just use Debian which isn't as good as the old AVLinux that was based on Debian. I think Pipewire might already be installed and somewhat configure in the new AVLinux and that's a massive plus, but I like the old window manager.

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                                  • S Shawn Eary May2021

                                    I wouldn't run GNU\Linux in a VM unless I really had to. It runs well in a Hyper-V VM, but honestly, I would rather run GNU\Linux native and then run Win 10/11 in a QEMU/KVM host. I would run it as the Host OS and avoid MS Windows. The only think I really need MS Windows for is Cubase and AquaKitty UDX. AVLinux used to be a really good GNU\Linux distro until the maintainer switched over to the enlightenment engine. His old engine that I think was based on XFCE was better IMO and there were less bugs. Now I just use Debian which isn't as good as the old AVLinux that was based on Debian. I think Pipewire might already be installed and somewhat configure in the new AVLinux and that's a massive plus, but I like the old window manager.

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                                    sasadler
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                                    Yeah, same here. I run MX Linux as my main OS and Windows 11 in a QEMU/KVM based VM. Works really well. I also do GPU passthrough so I can play my Steam/GOG games in the VM.

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