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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Dark mode makes the voices in my head louder ... :~

    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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    Daniel Pfeffer
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    Is that the Summoning Darkness or the Guarding Darkness? :)

    Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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      Let's play the "I like/dislike dark mode game". The rules are simple, you get to state in one sentence the most important reason you like or dislike light or dark mode. You get to add one sentence only, not entire paragraphs. Be funny. Be serious. It's up to you. Just stay civil and don't start a religious war over someone else's preference. I'll start: I dislike dark mode because all I can see on a bright sunny afternoon is the dust on my monitor. Your turn.

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      Daniel Pfeffer
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      I dislike dark mode because there is enough darkness in this world without my adding to it.

      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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      • D Daniel Pfeffer

        Is that the Summoning Darkness or the Guarding Darkness? :)

        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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        OriginalGriff
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        It's a floating eyeball with a curly tail, so Summoning Dark, I think. ;)

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          Let's play the "I like/dislike dark mode game". The rules are simple, you get to state in one sentence the most important reason you like or dislike light or dark mode. You get to add one sentence only, not entire paragraphs. Be funny. Be serious. It's up to you. Just stay civil and don't start a religious war over someone else's preference. I'll start: I dislike dark mode because all I can see on a bright sunny afternoon is the dust on my monitor. Your turn.

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          rnbergren
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          Dark mode in a dark room, with bright and Cheery Music. Happy![^]

          To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer

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          • D David ONeil

            I like black text in dark mode, because it weeds out crappy developers who aren't serious.

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            Amarnath S
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            Incidentally, this was told as a trick in resume writing. Sometimes back it was reported that a candidate got an interview call, and ultimately landed a job in one of the top companies, and she had shared her trick. This candidate has written her profile and projects as usual, with black letters on white background. But also had written all the AI-ML-DataScience keywords in white text on white background - these would not be printed, but the resume-screening software in the big companies would recognise these buzzwords, that she had worked on those technologies, and would immediately shortlist her for interview. Neat trick in fooling that software.

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            • D dandy72

              Is that really the case? I mean, no matter the amount of bright or dark colors being displayed, the backlight is still on just the same... [Edit] I wasn't thinking about OLED, where each pixel emits its own light.

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              enhzflep
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              Yup, the edit nails it. For LCD, light-mode uses less energy.

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                Let's play the "I like/dislike dark mode game". The rules are simple, you get to state in one sentence the most important reason you like or dislike light or dark mode. You get to add one sentence only, not entire paragraphs. Be funny. Be serious. It's up to you. Just stay civil and don't start a religious war over someone else's preference. I'll start: I dislike dark mode because all I can see on a bright sunny afternoon is the dust on my monitor. Your turn.

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                Gary Wheeler
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                I like dark mode because our renovated office space has LED lighting which is much brighter than before, and light text on a dark background is easier for me to read with my visual issues. [bit of a run-on sentence, but that was a requirement]

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                • enhzflepE enhzflep

                  Yup, the edit nails it. For LCD, light-mode uses less energy.

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                  dandy72
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                  Don't you mean OLED? Based on my (quick) readup, OLED is the one that has the individual pixels emitting their own light. Whereas it's LCD that has an "always-on" backlight.

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                    Let's play the "I like/dislike dark mode game". The rules are simple, you get to state in one sentence the most important reason you like or dislike light or dark mode. You get to add one sentence only, not entire paragraphs. Be funny. Be serious. It's up to you. Just stay civil and don't start a religious war over someone else's preference. I'll start: I dislike dark mode because all I can see on a bright sunny afternoon is the dust on my monitor. Your turn.

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                    StatementTerminator
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                    I like dark mode because I spent a lot of money on an OLED monitor.

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                    • D dandy72

                      Let's play the "I like/dislike dark mode game". The rules are simple, you get to state in one sentence the most important reason you like or dislike light or dark mode. You get to add one sentence only, not entire paragraphs. Be funny. Be serious. It's up to you. Just stay civil and don't start a religious war over someone else's preference. I'll start: I dislike dark mode because all I can see on a bright sunny afternoon is the dust on my monitor. Your turn.

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                      User 12148869
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                      I like dark mode because I am a vampire and have light sensitivity!

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                      • D dandy72

                        Let's play the "I like/dislike dark mode game". The rules are simple, you get to state in one sentence the most important reason you like or dislike light or dark mode. You get to add one sentence only, not entire paragraphs. Be funny. Be serious. It's up to you. Just stay civil and don't start a religious war over someone else's preference. I'll start: I dislike dark mode because all I can see on a bright sunny afternoon is the dust on my monitor. Your turn.

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                        Bruce Patin
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                        "Yesss... Give in to the Dark Side!" Nope. Not me.

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                        • D dandy72

                          Don't you mean OLED? Based on my (quick) readup, OLED is the one that has the individual pixels emitting their own light. Whereas it's LCD that has an "always-on" backlight.

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                          enhzflep
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                          Nope. A low energy image displayed on an OLED is black, since none of the (light-emitting) pixels are emitting light. A low energy image displayed on an LCD is white, since none of the (light-stopping) shutters are powered. The backlight is a given cost, but to get a dark pixel requires that we polarize the light from the backlight such that it cannot pass through the display. On the types of displays found on old watches, calculators etc, the segments appear black because the segment is powered and the light from the environment cannot pass through the display to then reflect on the back of it and return to our eyes. Colour LCDs have a Red, a Green and a Blue channel (passive) filter for each pixel as well as a(n active) shutter for each of the channels. So a fully red image uses as much power as a fully green image or a fully blue image. You can get higher contrast ratios on OLEDs because there's less bleed-through from adjacent pixels and because emitting no light works better than turning an LCD shutter on. I don't know if OLEDs are similar to regular LEDs, in which similar brightness for different colours requires a different amount of power. Blue LEDs for instance, are considerably brighter for a given wattage than red ones. As an interesting side-note, LEDs can be used to *detect* light!

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                          • H honey the codewitch

                            I like dark mode because I'm awake a lot during the wee hours, and a dark screen in a dark room is much easier on the eyes.

                            Check out my IoT graphics library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx And my IoT UI/User Experience library here: https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix

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                            sasadler
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                            I like bright rooms so I tend to like light mode. I never use my computer without turning on the room lights.

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                              I find most people just buy a monitor and don't adjust it in any way, shape or form. I tend to reduce the brightness on my monitors (and phone) as much as possible, and I don't get eye strain or headaches. I can immediately spot a phone or monitor running at full brightness - it's like staring at the sun. Why people don't realize they can control that, I don't know. At least phones tend to have adaptive brightness, but I still reduce it beyond what it chooses.

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                              MootlyObviate
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                              I always found that reducing brightness to the point where the screen is no longer glaring at me also reduce contrast too much for my comfort. Dark mode, on the other hand, is not glaring at me but still maintaining a high contrast. Yes, at least for coding, this is partly because of my editor theme preferences. Though I think the cognitive effect of brighter-colored elements foregrounding and enlarging themselves against darker colors, and vice versa, also helps.

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                                Let's play the "I like/dislike dark mode game". The rules are simple, you get to state in one sentence the most important reason you like or dislike light or dark mode. You get to add one sentence only, not entire paragraphs. Be funny. Be serious. It's up to you. Just stay civil and don't start a religious war over someone else's preference. I'll start: I dislike dark mode because all I can see on a bright sunny afternoon is the dust on my monitor. Your turn.

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                                giuchici
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                                I tried now more than a handful of times dark mode (specifically in VS). In general I don't last more than a day, last time I used it for a week, maybe a bit more. One day I decided I couldn't take it anymore. I don't know why. I am now using a beige background, actually now is like a muted mustard color. Why I try dark mode (theme in VS) once in a while? Because I felt it has a lot of detail in differentiating various bits of code and I find that useful, sometimes. And other days I am ashamed as it looks like a circus. Until the day they'll ban it because of privilege reasons, I'll use the white background.

                                giuchici

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                                  Let's play the "I like/dislike dark mode game". The rules are simple, you get to state in one sentence the most important reason you like or dislike light or dark mode. You get to add one sentence only, not entire paragraphs. Be funny. Be serious. It's up to you. Just stay civil and don't start a religious war over someone else's preference. I'll start: I dislike dark mode because all I can see on a bright sunny afternoon is the dust on my monitor. Your turn.

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                                  SeattleC
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                                  Because of low vision, I sit close to the monitor, so that light mode is like staring directly into a 100 watt lightbulb. Bonus answer: Dark mode consumes less energy on emissive displays like OLEDs.

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                                    Let's play the "I like/dislike dark mode game". The rules are simple, you get to state in one sentence the most important reason you like or dislike light or dark mode. You get to add one sentence only, not entire paragraphs. Be funny. Be serious. It's up to you. Just stay civil and don't start a religious war over someone else's preference. I'll start: I dislike dark mode because all I can see on a bright sunny afternoon is the dust on my monitor. Your turn.

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                                    MikeTheFid
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                                    I had cataracts. Dark mode was vital to my working. At that time, a white background would overwhelm the text. I've since had the surgery on both eyes and I good now.

                                    Cheers, Mike Fidler "I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright "I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright "I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.

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                                    • enhzflepE enhzflep

                                      Nope. A low energy image displayed on an OLED is black, since none of the (light-emitting) pixels are emitting light. A low energy image displayed on an LCD is white, since none of the (light-stopping) shutters are powered. The backlight is a given cost, but to get a dark pixel requires that we polarize the light from the backlight such that it cannot pass through the display. On the types of displays found on old watches, calculators etc, the segments appear black because the segment is powered and the light from the environment cannot pass through the display to then reflect on the back of it and return to our eyes. Colour LCDs have a Red, a Green and a Blue channel (passive) filter for each pixel as well as a(n active) shutter for each of the channels. So a fully red image uses as much power as a fully green image or a fully blue image. You can get higher contrast ratios on OLEDs because there's less bleed-through from adjacent pixels and because emitting no light works better than turning an LCD shutter on. I don't know if OLEDs are similar to regular LEDs, in which similar brightness for different colours requires a different amount of power. Blue LEDs for instance, are considerably brighter for a given wattage than red ones. As an interesting side-note, LEDs can be used to *detect* light!

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                                      dandy72
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                                      Interesting. Thanks for the refresher. I did read about that when OLED was still new, but forgot most of the actual implementation. :-)

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                                        Because of low vision, I sit close to the monitor, so that light mode is like staring directly into a 100 watt lightbulb. Bonus answer: Dark mode consumes less energy on emissive displays like OLEDs.

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                                        dandy72
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                                        Drop the brightness. That's most people's problem. 2 of my monitors have their brightness at 0. On one, I set the contrast at 40. The other at 75. My *primary* display is a 4K TV, with the brightness at 50 and contrast at 75. People hold up their phones next to them and comment how dark my monitors are. Yes. That's entirely intentional.

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                                          Drop the brightness. That's most people's problem. 2 of my monitors have their brightness at 0. On one, I set the contrast at 40. The other at 75. My *primary* display is a 4K TV, with the brightness at 50 and contrast at 75. People hold up their phones next to them and comment how dark my monitors are. Yes. That's entirely intentional.

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                                          SeattleC
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                                          Thanks for your thoughtful comment, but inverse video works better for me. High contrast with the background plus low overall brightness, and videos don't look washed out.

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