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    Jeremy Falcon
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    It's mistaken for actual intelligence. It's the same thing tiny children do. For instance, I go to a master carpenter and tell them how to do their job because I saw one YouTube video telling me something and the carpenter didn't use that trick on my home. Maybe it's a cool trick. Maybe I don't know the context. Maybe the carpenter doesn't need to use that trick due to raw skill. Maybe the carpenter can pick up a new trick. Who knows... But, I'm a pseudo intellectual with no self-awareness. And, I'm here to argue baby... even though I have no idea what I'm doing. I watched one YouTube video. Kneel before my knowledge. I must know more than the master carpenter with decades of experience. :laugh: Welcome to the Internet!

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      It's mistaken for actual intelligence. It's the same thing tiny children do. For instance, I go to a master carpenter and tell them how to do their job because I saw one YouTube video telling me something and the carpenter didn't use that trick on my home. Maybe it's a cool trick. Maybe I don't know the context. Maybe the carpenter doesn't need to use that trick due to raw skill. Maybe the carpenter can pick up a new trick. Who knows... But, I'm a pseudo intellectual with no self-awareness. And, I'm here to argue baby... even though I have no idea what I'm doing. I watched one YouTube video. Kneel before my knowledge. I must know more than the master carpenter with decades of experience. :laugh: Welcome to the Internet!

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      Amarnath S
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      Carpentry is less risky, but for medical symptoms, search engines should start showing Statutory Warning in bold red letters: "This is only a computer diagnosis. However advanced my AI is, please please please consult a human doctor before taking medicine, and don't prompt or suggest to that human doctor with my computer diagnosis".

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        Carpentry is less risky, but for medical symptoms, search engines should start showing Statutory Warning in bold red letters: "This is only a computer diagnosis. However advanced my AI is, please please please consult a human doctor before taking medicine, and don't prompt or suggest to that human doctor with my computer diagnosis".

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        Amarnath S wrote:

        and don't prompt or suggest to that human doctor with my computer diagnosis

        Why?

        "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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          Amarnath S wrote:

          and don't prompt or suggest to that human doctor with my computer diagnosis

          Why?

          "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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          So as not to influence the doctor. The doctor will have his/her way of thinking, diagnosing. Which I feel should not be interfered with.

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            So as not to influence the doctor. The doctor will have his/her way of thinking, diagnosing. Which I feel should not be interfered with.

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            So you wouldn't interfere with a possibly wrong diagnosis?

            "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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              So you wouldn't interfere with a possibly wrong diagnosis?

              "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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              I would wait for the doctor to make their diagnosis, then (possibly) ask if he/she had considered the computer's diagnosis. If you don't trust the doctor to do their best, why do you bother going to them?

              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                It's mistaken for actual intelligence. It's the same thing tiny children do. For instance, I go to a master carpenter and tell them how to do their job because I saw one YouTube video telling me something and the carpenter didn't use that trick on my home. Maybe it's a cool trick. Maybe I don't know the context. Maybe the carpenter doesn't need to use that trick due to raw skill. Maybe the carpenter can pick up a new trick. Who knows... But, I'm a pseudo intellectual with no self-awareness. And, I'm here to argue baby... even though I have no idea what I'm doing. I watched one YouTube video. Kneel before my knowledge. I must know more than the master carpenter with decades of experience. :laugh: Welcome to the Internet!

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                Pseudo intellectualism sounds a bit pseudo-intellectual...

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                  I would wait for the doctor to make their diagnosis, then (possibly) ask if he/she had considered the computer's diagnosis. If you don't trust the doctor to do their best, why do you bother going to them?

                  Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                  Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                  I would wait for the doctor to make their diagnosis, then (possibly) ask if he/she had considered the computer's diagnosis.

                  This is a good approach, in my opinion.

                  Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                  If you don't trust the doctor to do their best, why do you bother going to them?

                  Most people here have practically no choice, even if their doctor is mediocre, they stick with him/her. I do trust my doctor (I am lucky, he is above the average). However, his best could be not the absolute best.

                  "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                    It's mistaken for actual intelligence. It's the same thing tiny children do. For instance, I go to a master carpenter and tell them how to do their job because I saw one YouTube video telling me something and the carpenter didn't use that trick on my home. Maybe it's a cool trick. Maybe I don't know the context. Maybe the carpenter doesn't need to use that trick due to raw skill. Maybe the carpenter can pick up a new trick. Who knows... But, I'm a pseudo intellectual with no self-awareness. And, I'm here to argue baby... even though I have no idea what I'm doing. I watched one YouTube video. Kneel before my knowledge. I must know more than the master carpenter with decades of experience. :laugh: Welcome to the Internet!

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    At some point, there must be a tipping point where pseudo stops being pseudo and becomes real. I suspect that there's no hard delineation there, but it's interesting to think that there's a grey area where one slips over into the other.

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                      It's mistaken for actual intelligence. It's the same thing tiny children do. For instance, I go to a master carpenter and tell them how to do their job because I saw one YouTube video telling me something and the carpenter didn't use that trick on my home. Maybe it's a cool trick. Maybe I don't know the context. Maybe the carpenter doesn't need to use that trick due to raw skill. Maybe the carpenter can pick up a new trick. Who knows... But, I'm a pseudo intellectual with no self-awareness. And, I'm here to argue baby... even though I have no idea what I'm doing. I watched one YouTube video. Kneel before my knowledge. I must know more than the master carpenter with decades of experience. :laugh: Welcome to the Internet!

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                        It's mistaken for actual intelligence. It's the same thing tiny children do. For instance, I go to a master carpenter and tell them how to do their job because I saw one YouTube video telling me something and the carpenter didn't use that trick on my home. Maybe it's a cool trick. Maybe I don't know the context. Maybe the carpenter doesn't need to use that trick due to raw skill. Maybe the carpenter can pick up a new trick. Who knows... But, I'm a pseudo intellectual with no self-awareness. And, I'm here to argue baby... even though I have no idea what I'm doing. I watched one YouTube video. Kneel before my knowledge. I must know more than the master carpenter with decades of experience. :laugh: Welcome to the Internet!

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                        theoldfool
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                        sexual intellectual!

                        >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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                          At some point, there must be a tipping point where pseudo stops being pseudo and becomes real. I suspect that there's no hard delineation there, but it's interesting to think that there's a grey area where one slips over into the other.

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                          Long time no see, buddy. And totally agree. But, two things to consider... 1) Experience is the real teacher in life. You cannot really learn something until you go through it. Let me give an analogy. You can read about heart break in books or watch YouTube for a year. You may think you're an expert. Nothing will prepare you for the real thing. Experience. This doesn't mean don't read, but even Einstein agreed there is another tipping point where books can do just as much harm as reading nothing at all, when they become a crutch. At some point, you need to apply that knowledge to _really_ learn. 2) There's no guarantee the master carpenter isn't also studied and experienced. Maybe they haven't kept up and you do surpass them. I've met a lot of ignorant doctors for instance. But without that experience there are things you really don't know and never will... maybe like why things are the way they are. And it's folly to assume before you even talk to them that your YouTube videos makes you better. As in, a real intellectual will ascertain first. Now, you can learn from other people's experience, but you also have to actually talk to them rather than insult them before speaking to them because you watched a video. Which never happens online. It's just an ego trip by most from what I've seen.

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                            Pseudo intellectualism sounds a bit pseudo-intellectual...

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                            Jeremy Falcon
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                            Ha ha ha. It was a cool phrase man. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :laugh:

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                              Carpentry is less risky, but for medical symptoms, search engines should start showing Statutory Warning in bold red letters: "This is only a computer diagnosis. However advanced my AI is, please please please consult a human doctor before taking medicine, and don't prompt or suggest to that human doctor with my computer diagnosis".

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                              100% agree, buddy.

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                                Carpentry is less risky, but for medical symptoms, search engines should start showing Statutory Warning in bold red letters: "This is only a computer diagnosis. However advanced my AI is, please please please consult a human doctor before taking medicine, and don't prompt or suggest to that human doctor with my computer diagnosis".

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                                This is why I only go to places like WebMD and Mayo Clinic when I'm looking for medical advice. At least I know these two sites are backed and maintained by top notch medical systems.

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                                  So you wouldn't interfere with a possibly wrong diagnosis?

                                  "In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?" -- Rigoletto

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                                  The analogy is a court of law. Have heard that a lawyer asking a leading question is generally frowned upon. Similarly, if I as a patient, based on my search engine results, ask the doctor "Is ... condition possible, doctor", then it's like a leading question, and may make that doctor think only along those lines; we would like the doctor to have a "360-degree" approach - meaning "What all is possible, and how can I rule out something?". Asking a leading question would possibly narrow down the doctor's choices towards an incorrect direction. This is what i meant.

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                                    It's mistaken for actual intelligence. It's the same thing tiny children do. For instance, I go to a master carpenter and tell them how to do their job because I saw one YouTube video telling me something and the carpenter didn't use that trick on my home. Maybe it's a cool trick. Maybe I don't know the context. Maybe the carpenter doesn't need to use that trick due to raw skill. Maybe the carpenter can pick up a new trick. Who knows... But, I'm a pseudo intellectual with no self-awareness. And, I'm here to argue baby... even though I have no idea what I'm doing. I watched one YouTube video. Kneel before my knowledge. I must know more than the master carpenter with decades of experience. :laugh: Welcome to the Internet!

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                                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                    I watched one YouTube video. Kneel before me my knowledge.

                                    Until you meet the guy who watched, two, count them, two YouTube videos on the topic..

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                                      So as not to influence the doctor. The doctor will have his/her way of thinking, diagnosing. Which I feel should not be interfered with.

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                                      And then you find out your doctor is consulting the same AI.

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                                        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                        I watched one YouTube video. Kneel before me my knowledge.

                                        Until you meet the guy who watched, two, count them, two YouTube videos on the topic..

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        Ha ha ha ha. Kneel before Zod! Am I right?

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                                          Ha ha ha ha. Kneel before Zod! Am I right?

                                          Jeremy Falcon

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                                          Yup.

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