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  • C charlieg

    yeah, you never saw that coming, did you? :) Roll with me here for the entertainment, and any lounge comments must involve gutters and insults against British food. :) I know a lot of us CP'rs are Brits or Europeans. Ohh, I'm sure I just offended somebody. Scottish want to chime in ;) I'm in the SE USA (Atlanta). Give me 30 minutes and I'll cook you a meal. Anyway, I know why you Brit's are so ... Brits. I heard this story about Yorkshire pudding. Gross. Do you know why the French still exist? To teach Brits how to cook, oh crap, this is going to go so sideways. Anyway, the Brits have the best vet ever, but back to gutters. In England it rains. A lot. The universal prosthetic is an umbrella. In the US, it rains in Seattle, but I don't care. Left coast and all that, they deserve it. What do you guys use for gutters? Do you go up on your roofs to clean them? Do you have gutter covers? Etc. I'm ignorantly curious. Here, we have companies selling "gutter protection." I can take their quotes, divide it by semiannual cleaning fees and I've been dead for 20 years before I get my money back. EDIT EDIT EDIT I did not mean this to go off on a culinary exercise. I am sure somewhere Yorkshire pudding is made proper. I just decided to try it at the restaurant I was at in a "what the hell" moment. I actually expected PUDDING. Live and learn. This sort of falls under "hey fellas! watch this" moment. The reference was simply a side swipe at you Brits in a friendly way. Now I need to catch up on the remains of the thread where it was really about gutters. You damn programmers - like herding cats :)

    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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    charlieg wrote:

    In England it rains.

    - It looks likr rain sir? - Yes, and it darned well tastes like it too. Rain-tasting soup[^]

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    • C charlieg

      yeah, you never saw that coming, did you? :) Roll with me here for the entertainment, and any lounge comments must involve gutters and insults against British food. :) I know a lot of us CP'rs are Brits or Europeans. Ohh, I'm sure I just offended somebody. Scottish want to chime in ;) I'm in the SE USA (Atlanta). Give me 30 minutes and I'll cook you a meal. Anyway, I know why you Brit's are so ... Brits. I heard this story about Yorkshire pudding. Gross. Do you know why the French still exist? To teach Brits how to cook, oh crap, this is going to go so sideways. Anyway, the Brits have the best vet ever, but back to gutters. In England it rains. A lot. The universal prosthetic is an umbrella. In the US, it rains in Seattle, but I don't care. Left coast and all that, they deserve it. What do you guys use for gutters? Do you go up on your roofs to clean them? Do you have gutter covers? Etc. I'm ignorantly curious. Here, we have companies selling "gutter protection." I can take their quotes, divide it by semiannual cleaning fees and I've been dead for 20 years before I get my money back. EDIT EDIT EDIT I did not mean this to go off on a culinary exercise. I am sure somewhere Yorkshire pudding is made proper. I just decided to try it at the restaurant I was at in a "what the hell" moment. I actually expected PUDDING. Live and learn. This sort of falls under "hey fellas! watch this" moment. The reference was simply a side swipe at you Brits in a friendly way. Now I need to catch up on the remains of the thread where it was really about gutters. You damn programmers - like herding cats :)

      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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      But fortunately we are blessed with many US food outlets where we can purchase such culinary masterpieces as fried burgers, deep fried chicken and pizza. By keeping some of our food fairly bland, your average Brit can still fit through a door without requiring the Fire Brigade to come and rescue them. :-D

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      • T theoldfool

        Thank you. Please bake and send some. :)

        >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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        Would that I had decent baking skills. :sigh:

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        • C charlieg

          I'm actually having some fun at the moment. My mother in law is up the street under 24x7 care after 6 weeks of hell trying to figure stuff out. My urologist has given my viagra to help with my prostate problems (oldfool want to chime in?) I just want to pee. So, careful what you ask for ;) Or maybe honeywitch wants to chime in? :^) ;P I am serious about the gutter question. As for British cooking, bring it.

          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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          :omg: I ... was on a different kind of trip, actually, so I'll pass on this time eventually. Hard times (without pun), I wish you well !

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            :omg: I ... was on a different kind of trip, actually, so I'll pass on this time eventually. Hard times (without pun), I wish you well !

            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            I had to read this 3 times before I finally got it. lmao. :) well played sir.

            Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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            • M Mike Hankey

              My minds in the gutter most the time, that count?

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              yes sir, it surely does.

              Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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              • R raddevus

                Image gave 404. :( But, main thing you're right about is:

                charlieg wrote:

                The rule we have is that all landscape around the structure MUST slope away. Gutters collect rainwater and direct it away from the structure. Water be bad in a house when not in a pipe.

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                house hosted at ImgBB — ImgBB[^] try this

                Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                • R raddevus

                  I have it on good authority that they don't care a lick about gutters over the pond. I have watched numerous episodes of Grantchester (detective show where Vicar solves the crimes) the main character lives in a vicarage that has gutters like this (image from duckduckgo) [^] They just let wild ivy grow in there. :rolleyes: No need for crawlin' up and cleanin' out. That's what I see on all the TV shows, so I know it has to be true. Just like everything I read on the Web. ;P EDIT Also, the only thing they eat over there is bangers & mash. I seen it on TV. EDIT 2 Also, I'm the authority on these things because I'm All-American US-living for realz. I'm wrapped in a US flag right now and listening to the star spangled banner! <Salute>

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                  I guess maybe I should have directed this to the NW USA... Since I live in the SE USA, we have cyclical rain when we can get it. In Atlanta, our rainy season is from Octoberish to February with an occasional panic attack of solid precipitation. In late summer/autumn toss in a hurricane here and there - we actually have one coming in now (in the vicinity). From late February to May, we have to pay attention for tornadic weather systems. as I said, my perception from watching TV (never been to GB, definitely on my bucket list), it just seemed to rain there all the time. Hence my question. From the picture posted, it looks like no one cares about gutters :) There seems to be a growing movement that if your property allows it - chunk the gutters and use these: Since I live in the SE USA, we have cyclical rain when we can get it. In Atlanta, our rainy season is from Octoberish to February with an occasional panic attack of solid precipitation. In late summer/autumn toss in a hurricane here and there - we actually have one coming in now (in the vicinity). From late February to May, we have to pay attention for tornadic weather systems. There seems to be a growing movement that if your property allows it - chunk the gutters and use these: Gutter Alternative: Rainhandler[^] There is also the idea of covering your gutters, but those "patented systems" are so hideously expensive I'd die before I got my money back.

                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                  • T theoldfool

                    We attempted to improve Europe's cuisine by sending our fast food franchises over there. You can thank us later.

                    >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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                    American cuisine: over sized, oversugared, and over here. With apologies to the anonymous WWII pundit who coined the original.

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                    • C charlieg

                      yeah, you never saw that coming, did you? :) Roll with me here for the entertainment, and any lounge comments must involve gutters and insults against British food. :) I know a lot of us CP'rs are Brits or Europeans. Ohh, I'm sure I just offended somebody. Scottish want to chime in ;) I'm in the SE USA (Atlanta). Give me 30 minutes and I'll cook you a meal. Anyway, I know why you Brit's are so ... Brits. I heard this story about Yorkshire pudding. Gross. Do you know why the French still exist? To teach Brits how to cook, oh crap, this is going to go so sideways. Anyway, the Brits have the best vet ever, but back to gutters. In England it rains. A lot. The universal prosthetic is an umbrella. In the US, it rains in Seattle, but I don't care. Left coast and all that, they deserve it. What do you guys use for gutters? Do you go up on your roofs to clean them? Do you have gutter covers? Etc. I'm ignorantly curious. Here, we have companies selling "gutter protection." I can take their quotes, divide it by semiannual cleaning fees and I've been dead for 20 years before I get my money back. EDIT EDIT EDIT I did not mean this to go off on a culinary exercise. I am sure somewhere Yorkshire pudding is made proper. I just decided to try it at the restaurant I was at in a "what the hell" moment. I actually expected PUDDING. Live and learn. This sort of falls under "hey fellas! watch this" moment. The reference was simply a side swipe at you Brits in a friendly way. Now I need to catch up on the remains of the thread where it was really about gutters. You damn programmers - like herding cats :)

                      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                      Well lets deal with the Brits or Europeans and food. When I lived at the Grand Canyon I was friends with the chef at the El Tovar Hotel. A Mexican chap who had a passion for cooking exotic food. Had special egg serving for breakfast when I felt like splurging for breakfast at the El Tovar. Because of our relationship I was invited to the Chen Dinner where he cooked as he belonged to the Chaîne des Rôtisseurs was created under the 1901 French law regarding Associations with an International Headquarters based in Paris. You can learn more here Chaine des Rotisseurs – Food & Wine Gastronomy Society[^] The menu was printed on a dinner plate and presented as a gift. Still have mine some where. If the Brits have a chapter it would be nice to know. I doubt it. I live in the White Mountains of Arizona and my home has gutters and I have 20 Ponderous Pine trees on my 3/4 acres of land with 3 apple trees that produce a lot of apples the elk steal the apples along with the deer. I am sure no manner of contraption can evade pine needles from piling up in said gutters. Monsoon Season is from June to late September 2 years ago the rain was so violent and turned to hail it stripped my apple trees of 50% of its leaves. DAM Solution is a leaf blower & step ladder around mid June or the gutters look like Niagara Falls.

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                      • D Daniel Pfeffer

                        American cuisine: over sized, oversugared, and over here. With apologies to the anonymous WWII pundit who coined the original.

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        You forgot to mention the salt!

                        >64 It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.

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                        • C Choroid

                          Well lets deal with the Brits or Europeans and food. When I lived at the Grand Canyon I was friends with the chef at the El Tovar Hotel. A Mexican chap who had a passion for cooking exotic food. Had special egg serving for breakfast when I felt like splurging for breakfast at the El Tovar. Because of our relationship I was invited to the Chen Dinner where he cooked as he belonged to the Chaîne des Rôtisseurs was created under the 1901 French law regarding Associations with an International Headquarters based in Paris. You can learn more here Chaine des Rotisseurs – Food & Wine Gastronomy Society[^] The menu was printed on a dinner plate and presented as a gift. Still have mine some where. If the Brits have a chapter it would be nice to know. I doubt it. I live in the White Mountains of Arizona and my home has gutters and I have 20 Ponderous Pine trees on my 3/4 acres of land with 3 apple trees that produce a lot of apples the elk steal the apples along with the deer. I am sure no manner of contraption can evade pine needles from piling up in said gutters. Monsoon Season is from June to late September 2 years ago the rain was so violent and turned to hail it stripped my apple trees of 50% of its leaves. DAM Solution is a leaf blower & step ladder around mid June or the gutters look like Niagara Falls.

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                          Choroid wrote:

                          some where

                          somewhere :suss:

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                          • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                            Translation: American gutters = British eavestroughs (also the more common word in Canada).

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                            Eavestroughs is a new one on me, but then I've only been living in Britain for 63 years.

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                              Eavestroughs is a new one on me, but then I've only been living in Britain for 63 years.

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                              Interesting. I should have checked Cambridge Dictionary! Since it was/is the usual term in Canada, I figured it was also the most usual one in the UK. https://www.angi.com/articles/eavestrough-vs-gutters.htm[^]

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                              • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                                Interesting. I should have checked Cambridge Dictionary! Since it was/is the usual term in Canada, I figured it was also the most usual one in the UK. https://www.angi.com/articles/eavestrough-vs-gutters.htm[^]

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                                We refer to "the gutters" or "guttering" - usually the channels are semicircular or box section, and in the past they have been made in cast iron and I'm sure I've even seen them made of pressed concrete board! You don't want one of those dislodging.

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                                • C charlieg

                                  yeah, you never saw that coming, did you? :) Roll with me here for the entertainment, and any lounge comments must involve gutters and insults against British food. :) I know a lot of us CP'rs are Brits or Europeans. Ohh, I'm sure I just offended somebody. Scottish want to chime in ;) I'm in the SE USA (Atlanta). Give me 30 minutes and I'll cook you a meal. Anyway, I know why you Brit's are so ... Brits. I heard this story about Yorkshire pudding. Gross. Do you know why the French still exist? To teach Brits how to cook, oh crap, this is going to go so sideways. Anyway, the Brits have the best vet ever, but back to gutters. In England it rains. A lot. The universal prosthetic is an umbrella. In the US, it rains in Seattle, but I don't care. Left coast and all that, they deserve it. What do you guys use for gutters? Do you go up on your roofs to clean them? Do you have gutter covers? Etc. I'm ignorantly curious. Here, we have companies selling "gutter protection." I can take their quotes, divide it by semiannual cleaning fees and I've been dead for 20 years before I get my money back. EDIT EDIT EDIT I did not mean this to go off on a culinary exercise. I am sure somewhere Yorkshire pudding is made proper. I just decided to try it at the restaurant I was at in a "what the hell" moment. I actually expected PUDDING. Live and learn. This sort of falls under "hey fellas! watch this" moment. The reference was simply a side swipe at you Brits in a friendly way. Now I need to catch up on the remains of the thread where it was really about gutters. You damn programmers - like herding cats :)

                                  Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                  Nice to see the evergreen topic of food making the leap from the Facebook playground of the "DMC" to here. Not sure what the problem is with Yorkshire pudding, though. Light, airy, crispy, well risen, they're great. The usual UK DMC riposte of course is biscuits and gravy; every picture I've seen of biscuits and gravy looks like something I once trod in in the dark when I had a cat ;-) Anyway, gutters. We usually have semicircular (sometimes box section) channels collecting to downpipes which discharge into a drain - often a separate storm drain rather than a foul drain these days. In my garden the rain downpipe is teed into a water butt so that rainwater can be collected to water the plants. There are various methods used to alleviate clogging, the most popular being the "hedgehog" which looks like a very long bottle brush; this fills the channel so that leaves etc run off over it, but water runs through it. Fairly effective, but not perfect. See above re needles.

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                                    charlieg wrote:

                                    British "food"

                                    FTFY :suss:

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                                    Comment if you would like too... I live north of Atlanta (60 miles or so). The current "rage" for local governments is to use tax payer dollars to encourage some sort of nonsense village environment. So, an itty bitty park is built, investors build buildings, activities occur, lots of kum bi ya.. then reality hits in.. and the businesses who invested aren't getting any traffic for their over priced product. Case in point, allegedly we had a British couple open up a fish and chips restaurant. The fish was actually quite good, but your "chips" are our french fries so even match. Even so, I took my wife to lunch to try the place. For 2 orders of fish and chips came to 34+ pounds. That's $45 for us Mericans. For a fish sandwich and greasy potatoes. The restauarant opened as a novelty in the place they were at and their product. Two weeks ago, they were done. So, for you Brits - two questions. 1) when you get fish and chips, what's the fish? 2) what do you pay? Fish and chips seem to me to be Britain's version of fast food, but I'm surely wrong.

                                    Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                    • C Choroid

                                      Well lets deal with the Brits or Europeans and food. When I lived at the Grand Canyon I was friends with the chef at the El Tovar Hotel. A Mexican chap who had a passion for cooking exotic food. Had special egg serving for breakfast when I felt like splurging for breakfast at the El Tovar. Because of our relationship I was invited to the Chen Dinner where he cooked as he belonged to the Chaîne des Rôtisseurs was created under the 1901 French law regarding Associations with an International Headquarters based in Paris. You can learn more here Chaine des Rotisseurs – Food & Wine Gastronomy Society[^] The menu was printed on a dinner plate and presented as a gift. Still have mine some where. If the Brits have a chapter it would be nice to know. I doubt it. I live in the White Mountains of Arizona and my home has gutters and I have 20 Ponderous Pine trees on my 3/4 acres of land with 3 apple trees that produce a lot of apples the elk steal the apples along with the deer. I am sure no manner of contraption can evade pine needles from piling up in said gutters. Monsoon Season is from June to late September 2 years ago the rain was so violent and turned to hail it stripped my apple trees of 50% of its leaves. DAM Solution is a leaf blower & step ladder around mid June or the gutters look like Niagara Falls.

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                                      "I live in the White Mountains" You are blessed and I hate you. Actually I envy you. I spent 3 years in Tucson, and I still miss it. That was back in the early 80s, I'd never go back the now. But high dessert mountains? I'm all in. If I had to retire and go live some place quiet, I'd normally aim for a cabin somewhere in New Mexico, but your area is looking fine. I'll look up your cooking references. I live in a neighborhood with no HOA. I can do things in my backyard.

                                      Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                        Nice to see the evergreen topic of food making the leap from the Facebook playground of the "DMC" to here. Not sure what the problem is with Yorkshire pudding, though. Light, airy, crispy, well risen, they're great. The usual UK DMC riposte of course is biscuits and gravy; every picture I've seen of biscuits and gravy looks like something I once trod in in the dark when I had a cat ;-) Anyway, gutters. We usually have semicircular (sometimes box section) channels collecting to downpipes which discharge into a drain - often a separate storm drain rather than a foul drain these days. In my garden the rain downpipe is teed into a water butt so that rainwater can be collected to water the plants. There are various methods used to alleviate clogging, the most popular being the "hedgehog" which looks like a very long bottle brush; this fills the channel so that leaves etc run off over it, but water runs through it. Fairly effective, but not perfect. See above re needles.

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                                        My dad called gravy on anything "shit on shingles" but he was navy. Help me - what is DMC? As for the gutter issue, i would love to see a picture of that hedgehog just out of intense curiosity.

                                        Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                          My dad called gravy on anything "shit on shingles" but he was navy. Help me - what is DMC? As for the gutter issue, i would love to see a picture of that hedgehog just out of intense curiosity.

                                          Charlie Gilley “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759 Has never been more appropriate.

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                                          DMC is "Dull Men's Club". There's a DWC, too. This[^] is an example of a gutter hedgehog.

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