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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    If you're going to mess with Notepad, why not add adjustable tab-stops?! That would be useful. And maybe a recent file list -- why didn't you add that? (I just began using a Windows 11 laptop.)

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    I actually like Win11's Notepad. It's quick and useful for ya know... taking down quick notes. It's not meant to be a programming tool. What do you hate about it so much... given the fact it's meant to be quick and dirty for taking notes? The theme? Tabs? It doing a soft close like Sublime? Notepad pee in your cheerios or something?

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      If you're going to mess with Notepad, why not add adjustable tab-stops?! That would be useful. And maybe a recent file list -- why didn't you add that? (I just began using a Windows 11 laptop.)

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      Richard Andrew x64
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      You don't need a recent file list if you use the jump list on the taskbar icon.

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        I actually like Win11's Notepad. It's quick and useful for ya know... taking down quick notes. It's not meant to be a programming tool. What do you hate about it so much... given the fact it's meant to be quick and dirty for taking notes? The theme? Tabs? It doing a soft close like Sublime? Notepad pee in your cheerios or something?

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Tabs mostly, but now that I know about them, maybe I can get out of the habit of using the X in the upper-right corner -- which has been the way to do it for decades!   Oh, you dirty dogs! So now I see how to switch from "Continue previous session" to "Start new session and discard unsaved changes". :doh: A text editor does not have "sessions", dagnabit!     I see nothing useful added. Adding useful stuff would be worthwhile.     And I still need to find out how to have proper square corners on windows. :mad:

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          You don't need a recent file list if you use the jump list on the taskbar icon.

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Which I don't. I don't particularly want a recent file list either, but it would make more sense than the changes which were made.

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Tabs mostly, but now that I know about them, maybe I can get out of the habit of using the X in the upper-right corner -- which has been the way to do it for decades!   Oh, you dirty dogs! So now I see how to switch from "Continue previous session" to "Start new session and discard unsaved changes". :doh: A text editor does not have "sessions", dagnabit!     I see nothing useful added. Adding useful stuff would be worthwhile.     And I still need to find out how to have proper square corners on windows. :mad:

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            Jeremy Falcon
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            It's gonna be ok... it's gonna be ok... :laugh:

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              I actually like Win11's Notepad. It's quick and useful for ya know... taking down quick notes. It's not meant to be a programming tool. What do you hate about it so much... given the fact it's meant to be quick and dirty for taking notes? The theme? Tabs? It doing a soft close like Sublime? Notepad pee in your cheerios or something?

              Jeremy Falcon

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              PIEBALDconsult
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              P.S.

              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              it's meant to be quick and dirty for taking notes

              Ah, I forgot to address that. Yes, quick, dirty, notes -- all day long. So features which enhance that -- such as adjustable tab-stops have been needed from the very beginning. Even a VT100 doesn't enforce eight-space TAB stops!     Anyway, other than simple notes, I also use Notepad for XML, HTML, and simple C# utilities -- and the existing TAB functionality hinders all off that. Not a big deal, but irksome when I naturally hit TAB. And read-me files too.

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                If you're going to mess with Notepad, why not add adjustable tab-stops?! That would be useful. And maybe a recent file list -- why didn't you add that? (I just began using a Windows 11 laptop.)

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                Just wait 'til you see the new cmd.

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  If you're going to mess with Notepad, why not add adjustable tab-stops?! That would be useful. And maybe a recent file list -- why didn't you add that? (I just began using a Windows 11 laptop.)

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                  notepad++ or sublime. Has had anything from Microsoft completely outclassed for at least 10+ years. Meanwhile, Microsoft goes out and dicks with the task bar and the file explorer popup menu because.... well, just because.

                  Charlie Gilley “Microsoft is the virus..." "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"

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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    it's meant to be quick and dirty for taking notes

                    Ah, I forgot to address that. Yes, quick, dirty, notes -- all day long. So features which enhance that -- such as adjustable tab-stops have been needed from the very beginning. Even a VT100 doesn't enforce eight-space TAB stops!     Anyway, other than simple notes, I also use Notepad for XML, HTML, and simple C# utilities -- and the existing TAB functionality hinders all off that. Not a big deal, but irksome when I naturally hit TAB. And read-me files too.

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    Again, Notepad isn’t designed for devs. So, pay a few bucks and start using Sublime. Don’t know why devs are so cheap when it comes to software. Yeah, tab alignment is whack in Notepad, but no need to get worked up over it. Nobody shot your dog man.

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                    • C charlieg

                      notepad++ or sublime. Has had anything from Microsoft completely outclassed for at least 10+ years. Meanwhile, Microsoft goes out and dicks with the task bar and the file explorer popup menu because.... well, just because.

                      Charlie Gilley “Microsoft is the virus..." "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      You’d think MS treating us like data pawns would be the real concern. 🤣🤣

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                      • C charlieg

                        notepad++ or sublime. Has had anything from Microsoft completely outclassed for at least 10+ years. Meanwhile, Microsoft goes out and dicks with the task bar and the file explorer popup menu because.... well, just because.

                        Charlie Gilley “Microsoft is the virus..." "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"

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                        PIEBALDconsult
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                        charlieg wrote:

                        notepad++ or sublime

                        No.

                        charlieg wrote:

                        outclassed

                        Don't care, I just want simple. I will likely install the editor (simple IDE) I wrote about ten years ago. It has (most of*) the features that I want, and nothing I don't want. * I don't think I have a version which supports sorting selected text.

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                          Just wait 'til you see the new cmd.

                          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          "Terminal"? Yeah, I set it to console mode. It's why I want my square corners back. The round corners clip the bottom line.

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            If you're going to mess with Notepad, why not add adjustable tab-stops?! That would be useful. And maybe a recent file list -- why didn't you add that? (I just began using a Windows 11 laptop.)

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                            dandy72
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                            It's a slippery slope. The way I see it, Notepad has always been little more than a multiline textbox wrapped in an app that has save and load capabilities. For the most part, the Notepad "features" are really features of the Win32 textbox control itself. If they start adding "just one more tiny feature", it'll end up being bloated, take forever to load (the biggest offender IMO), and a monstrosity nobody will really be happy with. No thanks. They have VS Code for that.

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                            • P PIEBALDconsult

                              If you're going to mess with Notepad, why not add adjustable tab-stops?! That would be useful. And maybe a recent file list -- why didn't you add that? (I just began using a Windows 11 laptop.)

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                              Gary Wheeler
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                              Keep find/replace values in a drop-down

                              Software Zen: delete this;

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                charlieg wrote:

                                notepad++ or sublime

                                No.

                                charlieg wrote:

                                outclassed

                                Don't care, I just want simple. I will likely install the editor (simple IDE) I wrote about ten years ago. It has (most of*) the features that I want, and nothing I don't want. * I don't think I have a version which supports sorting selected text.

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                                jochance
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                                Notepad++ will do that. Also good columnar blocking. It's fast, not quite as snippy as notepad, but not at all slow to start and it won't freeze for 30 minutes if you open a 300MB data file. I still use regular notepad for some quick/dirty stuff, but if they've made it soft-close that is going to become a delete/uninstall/rename the .exe or something for me most likely. Most of what I use it for are things I explicitly do not want hanging around in a notepad++ tab or anywhere else in memory.

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                                  Notepad++ will do that. Also good columnar blocking. It's fast, not quite as snippy as notepad, but not at all slow to start and it won't freeze for 30 minutes if you open a 300MB data file. I still use regular notepad for some quick/dirty stuff, but if they've made it soft-close that is going to become a delete/uninstall/rename the .exe or something for me most likely. Most of what I use it for are things I explicitly do not want hanging around in a notepad++ tab or anywhere else in memory.

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                                  PIEBALDconsult
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                                  jochance wrote:

                                  Notepad++ will do that.

                                  Don't care. Not gonna use it.

                                  jochance wrote:

                                  soft-close

                                  At least they made it configurable.

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                                    Again, Notepad isn’t designed for devs. So, pay a few bucks and start using Sublime. Don’t know why devs are so cheap when it comes to software. Yeah, tab alignment is whack in Notepad, but no need to get worked up over it. Nobody shot your dog man.

                                    Jeremy Falcon

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                                    PIEBALDconsult
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                                    It's just a nice-to-have, been using forever, and wrote my own editor which has features probably no one else wants. Just irked that they keep adding useless crap and don't address something which would be useful.

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                                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                                      jochance wrote:

                                      Notepad++ will do that.

                                      Don't care. Not gonna use it.

                                      jochance wrote:

                                      soft-close

                                      At least they made it configurable.

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                                      jochance
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                                      The way that came out on my end: "Don't care. Not gonna use it. Do not hit 'reply' to this email" Oh, so you're serious? Haha

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