Would it work?
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Hello all, I have a customer with one 25 years old robot with an industrial computer and windows 95. That robot computer came with a big chunky 60GB HDD. Years ago, I replaced that HDD by a Fujitsu SSD with the same size. Now the customer wants an extra backup (clever) and asked me to buy another SSD to get an image stored there "just in case". The smallest SSD I've found is +/- 240GB. I know OSes have limits, is it possible to partition the SSD to fool the computer and make it work even in a 32Bits windows 95? Is that even necessary? will that not be a solution? and is there any solution for that? Thank you all in advance...
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
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Hello all, I have a customer with one 25 years old robot with an industrial computer and windows 95. That robot computer came with a big chunky 60GB HDD. Years ago, I replaced that HDD by a Fujitsu SSD with the same size. Now the customer wants an extra backup (clever) and asked me to buy another SSD to get an image stored there "just in case". The smallest SSD I've found is +/- 240GB. I know OSes have limits, is it possible to partition the SSD to fool the computer and make it work even in a 32Bits windows 95? Is that even necessary? will that not be a solution? and is there any solution for that? Thank you all in advance...
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
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Hello all, I have a customer with one 25 years old robot with an industrial computer and windows 95. That robot computer came with a big chunky 60GB HDD. Years ago, I replaced that HDD by a Fujitsu SSD with the same size. Now the customer wants an extra backup (clever) and asked me to buy another SSD to get an image stored there "just in case". The smallest SSD I've found is +/- 240GB. I know OSes have limits, is it possible to partition the SSD to fool the computer and make it work even in a 32Bits windows 95? Is that even necessary? will that not be a solution? and is there any solution for that? Thank you all in advance...
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
On one of my embedded projects, the controller OS could only handle DOS-16 - basically nothing larger than 2GB. Now this project started in 2003, it's still deployed. We started with 64MB compact flash. Obviously, over a couple of decades, you simply cannot find these small capacity cards. So, I dug around and came up with the information for resizing the drives. I mainly used this on Compact Flash cards that were either 4 or 8GB. I have not used it on an SSD, but I cannot think of a reason why it would not work. Hope this helps. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Before starting, please remember that you can seriously mess things up if you make a mistake using command line disk management. Please make 150% sure you are selecting the correct disk so you don’t format your hard drive. You are solely responsible for anything that happens as a result of using this code 🙂 Instructions for reducing the partition size of a compact flash (CF) card: Open a command Window (Windows-> Start -> cmd) Type diskpart A new window will open up with a “diskpart>” prompt note: if there happen to be network drives, and you are not on the network, this command can take some time. list disk select disk n (where n is the number of your CF card) list volume select volume n (where n is the number of CF card volume) clean all (this completely reformats the disk – it will take a while and appear to hang but be patient) create partition primary (this gives the newly formated CF card a partition so it can be resized) shrink querymax This will tell you how much space is currently on available on your CF card. Subtract this from the filesize in MB you want for the final disk than add 1. For my 4GB disk, shrink querymax returns: “The maximum number of reclaimable bytes is: 3824MB” I wanted a final disk size of 2GB which a google search told me is 1954MB so 3824 – 1954 + 1= 1871 shrink desired = 1871 (This tells diskpart to try and shrink the disk by 1871 MB) Now that the disk is the right size, you can format the partition… format fs=fat label=”volumelabel” That’s all it takes. More info on diskpart commands here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766465(WS.10).aspx
Charlie Gilley “Microsoft is the virus..." "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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Hello all, I have a customer with one 25 years old robot with an industrial computer and windows 95. That robot computer came with a big chunky 60GB HDD. Years ago, I replaced that HDD by a Fujitsu SSD with the same size. Now the customer wants an extra backup (clever) and asked me to buy another SSD to get an image stored there "just in case". The smallest SSD I've found is +/- 240GB. I know OSes have limits, is it possible to partition the SSD to fool the computer and make it work even in a 32Bits windows 95? Is that even necessary? will that not be a solution? and is there any solution for that? Thank you all in advance...
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
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Hello all, I have a customer with one 25 years old robot with an industrial computer and windows 95. That robot computer came with a big chunky 60GB HDD. Years ago, I replaced that HDD by a Fujitsu SSD with the same size. Now the customer wants an extra backup (clever) and asked me to buy another SSD to get an image stored there "just in case". The smallest SSD I've found is +/- 240GB. I know OSes have limits, is it possible to partition the SSD to fool the computer and make it work even in a 32Bits windows 95? Is that even necessary? will that not be a solution? and is there any solution for that? Thank you all in advance...
www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming
Joan M wrote:
The smallest SSD I've found is +/- 240GB.
Have you not checked Amazon? They have lots of small (and super-cheap) 32GB, 64GB, and similar-range SSDs that go for $20-22. I've seen packs of 10 that go for under $150. They're so cheap I've bought a pack of 5 just to replace the spinning disks in my old laptops. That was last year; these days you can pay roughly the same price for more than double the capacity. At that price, if you don't trust them for long-term storage, use the spares for additional backups.
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SSD isn't great for long term storage. They need to be powered on now and then to keep the nand storage active. Rather use a normal HDD for backup and storage.
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On one of my embedded projects, the controller OS could only handle DOS-16 - basically nothing larger than 2GB. Now this project started in 2003, it's still deployed. We started with 64MB compact flash. Obviously, over a couple of decades, you simply cannot find these small capacity cards. So, I dug around and came up with the information for resizing the drives. I mainly used this on Compact Flash cards that were either 4 or 8GB. I have not used it on an SSD, but I cannot think of a reason why it would not work. Hope this helps. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Before starting, please remember that you can seriously mess things up if you make a mistake using command line disk management. Please make 150% sure you are selecting the correct disk so you don’t format your hard drive. You are solely responsible for anything that happens as a result of using this code 🙂 Instructions for reducing the partition size of a compact flash (CF) card: Open a command Window (Windows-> Start -> cmd) Type diskpart A new window will open up with a “diskpart>” prompt note: if there happen to be network drives, and you are not on the network, this command can take some time. list disk select disk n (where n is the number of your CF card) list volume select volume n (where n is the number of CF card volume) clean all (this completely reformats the disk – it will take a while and appear to hang but be patient) create partition primary (this gives the newly formated CF card a partition so it can be resized) shrink querymax This will tell you how much space is currently on available on your CF card. Subtract this from the filesize in MB you want for the final disk than add 1. For my 4GB disk, shrink querymax returns: “The maximum number of reclaimable bytes is: 3824MB” I wanted a final disk size of 2GB which a google search told me is 1954MB so 3824 – 1954 + 1= 1871 shrink desired = 1871 (This tells diskpart to try and shrink the disk by 1871 MB) Now that the disk is the right size, you can format the partition… format fs=fat label=”volumelabel” That’s all it takes. More info on diskpart commands here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766465(WS.10).aspx
Charlie Gilley “Microsoft is the virus..." "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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Joan M wrote:
The smallest SSD I've found is +/- 240GB.
Have you not checked Amazon? They have lots of small (and super-cheap) 32GB, 64GB, and similar-range SSDs that go for $20-22. I've seen packs of 10 that go for under $150. They're so cheap I've bought a pack of 5 just to replace the spinning disks in my old laptops. That was last year; these days you can pay roughly the same price for more than double the capacity. At that price, if you don't trust them for long-term storage, use the spares for additional backups.
Setting aside the smaller SSDs - context in question is a backup. I'm not picking a fight here, but this customer is running a Windows 95 system. Do you really think it's going to connect with them technically they are even going to remember to plug in their ssd? So size wise, that isn't the issue. Meanwhile, I have 4 SSDs in a safety deposit box and I'm having an oh elephant moment. Joan - I recommend working out an opportunity to image that drive and save it on YOUR systems. I kept a company in business (500 employees) years ago being paranoid.
Charlie Gilley “Microsoft is the virus..." "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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op doesn't talk about backup - this is a live system. minor nit. never mind, I'm tired and had to re-read the op.
Charlie Gilley “Microsoft is the virus..." "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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Joan M wrote:
The smallest SSD I've found is +/- 240GB.
Have you not checked Amazon? They have lots of small (and super-cheap) 32GB, 64GB, and similar-range SSDs that go for $20-22. I've seen packs of 10 that go for under $150. They're so cheap I've bought a pack of 5 just to replace the spinning disks in my old laptops. That was last year; these days you can pay roughly the same price for more than double the capacity. At that price, if you don't trust them for long-term storage, use the spares for additional backups.
For production systems, I would not recommend anything off-brand from amazon. They have zero QC when it comes to their supply chain. I might suggest Newegg, Newark, and other industrial suppliers.
Charlie Gilley “Microsoft is the virus..." "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"