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    Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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      Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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      The fact that you've changed nothing recently in the software configuration of the machine indicates that it is a hardware failure. Ordinarily I'd suspect Windows Update, since it almost always causes problems, but you indicate that it hasn't run recently. In the 15 months that this unit has recorded reliably, how many times have you cleaned the heads? When was the last time? I certainly give it a go, as I've found that most people never clean their recording heads, and they really should be cleaned about monthly. I'd also take a look at memory usage during the recording process, and shut down everything running except Nero while burning a CD.

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        Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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        Have you: Defragged your HD? and or Killed all non-necessary processes? What is the IDE configuration. CD burning, especially cd to cd requires the source and destination cd rom drive to be on different ide channels. Example: IDE0 Master Hard drive, Slave CD/DVD IDE1 Master HD, Slave CDRW. Also, imho don't use crappy media. I've found that imation cdr's burn more coasters than anything out there. While at the same time I've had great luck with memorex cdr's. Don't know if any of that helped. Good luck, Frank "Keyboard Error - Press F1 to Continue"

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          Have you: Defragged your HD? and or Killed all non-necessary processes? What is the IDE configuration. CD burning, especially cd to cd requires the source and destination cd rom drive to be on different ide channels. Example: IDE0 Master Hard drive, Slave CD/DVD IDE1 Master HD, Slave CDRW. Also, imho don't use crappy media. I've found that imation cdr's burn more coasters than anything out there. While at the same time I've had great luck with memorex cdr's. Don't know if any of that helped. Good luck, Frank "Keyboard Error - Press F1 to Continue"

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          Frank Deo wrote: Defragged your HD? and or Killed all non-necessary processes? Only installed XP on the machine 2 weeks ago. Frank Deo wrote: What is the IDE configuration. CD burning, especially cd to cd requires the source and destination cd rom drive to be on different ide channels. Example: IDE0 Master Hard drive, Slave CD/DVD IDE1 Master HD, Slave CDRW. IDE0 Master - ATA133 120GB HDD IDE0 Slave - ATA100 80GB HDD IDE1 Master - DVD-ROM IDE1 Slave - CD-RW Except for having a second HDD it's been like this for the past 9 or 10 months. I was running Windows 2000 before and had exactly no problems with burning CD's. Frank Deo wrote: Also, imho don't use crappy media. I've found that imation cdr's burn more coasters than anything out there. While at the same time I've had great luck with memorex cdr's. Can't remember what brand they are but I have been using them for ages and never had a problem. Could be a bad batch I suppose but it just seems weird to be hanging the way it is. At least if it was an error I would have something to work with. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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            Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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            1. Do you have any other CD writing program installed? I had my quota of Easy CD Crasher Creator. Other things to check are the ASPI drivers. 2. Hanging at 6%? Hmmm... If we are talking about full disk images here, it seems to be hanging when it's starting to actually writing anything (may be the lead-in, may be the real data). Does the media gets ruined or nothing is really written to the disk? 3. After closing Nero, check if there is a reminiscent imapi.exe running. If there is, kill it, or future burnings withot a reboot won't work. 4. About the system locking when Nero locks (or bad media is inserted), you probably have your CD burner on the same IDE controller than your page file or your Desktop directory. Change it to best performance and safety. 5. Check, on device manager, if any of your IDE controllers are on PIO mode. I have been intro trouble lately with this on Windows XP. Change it to DMA mode , if any of them is on PIO mode, which is old, slow and prone to lockups. Acting as a substitute for God, he becomes a dispenser of justice. - Alexandre Dumas

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              The fact that you've changed nothing recently in the software configuration of the machine indicates that it is a hardware failure. Ordinarily I'd suspect Windows Update, since it almost always causes problems, but you indicate that it hasn't run recently. In the 15 months that this unit has recorded reliably, how many times have you cleaned the heads? When was the last time? I certainly give it a go, as I've found that most people never clean their recording heads, and they really should be cleaned about monthly. I'd also take a look at memory usage during the recording process, and shut down everything running except Nero while burning a CD.

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              What time is it over there? Bit early for you to be up isn't it? Roger Wright wrote: The fact that you've changed nothing recently in the software configuration of the machine indicates that it is a hardware failure. Ordinarily I'd suspect Windows Update, since it almost always causes problems, but you indicate that it hasn't run recently. I don't believe I have used WindowsUpdate in the past week but I wouldn't count on my dodgy, aging memory. Plus I have only installed XP 2 weeks ago and haven't burnt many CD's since then. The problem may have been there since the installation. Roger Wright wrote: In the 15 months that this unit has recorded reliably, how many times have you cleaned the heads? When was the last time? I certainly give it a go, as I've found that most people never clean their recording heads, and they really should be cleaned about monthly. No. Any in particular thing I should use? I have one of those CD cleaners with special brushes in 2 places on the underside. Is this any good to use? I am damn close to putting my boot through it. Roger Wright wrote: I'd also take a look at memory usage during the recording process, and shut down everything running except Nero while burning a CD. I didn't notice anything using memory out of the ordinary. I ended the InCD.exe and incdsrv.exe processes but then Nero wouldn't start though it showed up under Task Manager. I have no other programs started up, just the crap Windows insists on at startup. It's got me stuffed. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                1. Do you have any other CD writing program installed? I had my quota of Easy CD Crasher Creator. Other things to check are the ASPI drivers. 2. Hanging at 6%? Hmmm... If we are talking about full disk images here, it seems to be hanging when it's starting to actually writing anything (may be the lead-in, may be the real data). Does the media gets ruined or nothing is really written to the disk? 3. After closing Nero, check if there is a reminiscent imapi.exe running. If there is, kill it, or future burnings withot a reboot won't work. 4. About the system locking when Nero locks (or bad media is inserted), you probably have your CD burner on the same IDE controller than your page file or your Desktop directory. Change it to best performance and safety. 5. Check, on device manager, if any of your IDE controllers are on PIO mode. I have been intro trouble lately with this on Windows XP. Change it to DMA mode , if any of them is on PIO mode, which is old, slow and prone to lockups. Acting as a substitute for God, he becomes a dispenser of justice. - Alexandre Dumas

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                Daniel Turini wrote: 1. Do you have any other CD writing program installed? I had my quota of Easy CD Crasher Creator. Other things to check are the ASPI drivers. Nero is the only CD Authoring tool I have installed. I remember reading about some change you had to make to a part of XP to make XP work. ButI didn't have XP then so didn't tkae much notice. Now I have XP I can't find the tip anywhere. Daniel Turini wrote: 2. Hanging at 6%? Hmmm... If we are talking about full disk images here, it seems to be hanging when it's starting to actually writing anything (may be the lead-in, may be the real data). Does the media gets ruined or nothing is really written to the disk? Full disk images and direct on-the-fly copies. No there doesn't seem to be anything writen to the disk. Daniel Turini wrote: 3. After closing Nero, check if there is a reminiscent imapi.exe running. If there is, kill it, or future burnings withot a reboot won't work. There is but I have to reboot the machine anyway as nero.exe is still listed in Task Manager and I can't kill it no matter how hard I try. Daniel Turini wrote: 4. About the system locking when Nero locks (or bad media is inserted), you probably have your CD burner on the same IDE controller than your page file or your Desktop directory. Change it to best performance and safety. No, I have my 2 HDD on the primary IDE controller and both optical drives on the secondary. Daniel Turini wrote: 5. Check, on device manager, if any of your IDE controllers are on PIO mode. I have been intro trouble lately with this on Windows XP. Change it to DMA mode , if any of them is on PIO mode, which is old, slow and prone to lockups. I saw your post a few days ago and first thing I did was check this in Device Manager. Both are set to DMA Mode 2 or something like that. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                  Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                  Is is a CD-copy? Do you use the wizard? At home, Nero hanged during the burn when I used the wizard, but didn't when I used the "New compilation", then the "Copy CD" entry of the Left pane. (I may not remember the menuitem exactly, I don't have Nero here).


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                    What time is it over there? Bit early for you to be up isn't it? Roger Wright wrote: The fact that you've changed nothing recently in the software configuration of the machine indicates that it is a hardware failure. Ordinarily I'd suspect Windows Update, since it almost always causes problems, but you indicate that it hasn't run recently. I don't believe I have used WindowsUpdate in the past week but I wouldn't count on my dodgy, aging memory. Plus I have only installed XP 2 weeks ago and haven't burnt many CD's since then. The problem may have been there since the installation. Roger Wright wrote: In the 15 months that this unit has recorded reliably, how many times have you cleaned the heads? When was the last time? I certainly give it a go, as I've found that most people never clean their recording heads, and they really should be cleaned about monthly. No. Any in particular thing I should use? I have one of those CD cleaners with special brushes in 2 places on the underside. Is this any good to use? I am damn close to putting my boot through it. Roger Wright wrote: I'd also take a look at memory usage during the recording process, and shut down everything running except Nero while burning a CD. I didn't notice anything using memory out of the ordinary. I ended the InCD.exe and incdsrv.exe processes but then Nero wouldn't start though it showed up under Task Manager. I have no other programs started up, just the crap Windows insists on at startup. It's got me stuffed. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                    Michael Martin wrote: What time is it over there? It was about 6:30AM - not too early at all, since I didn't stay up until 3 last nite.:-O The standard CD cleaner should be fine. I'd also kill Nero and try using the native CD burning software built in to WinXP. It's the one and only feature of XP that actually works well, but it probably is interacting with Nero in undesirable ways. InCD is part of the Nero package, and should be disabled when you use the WinXP CD burning functions. I don't see an option to exit the program here on my desktop, so you probably have to do someting in the boot files or the registry to disable it temporarily. Maybe the task manager kill will work... I haven't tried the combination of Nero and WinXP, so I'm guessing here, but I do know that the built-in wireless functions of XP don't work with ORiNOCO equipment, and disrupt the software that they come with, rendering the whole works unstable and unreliable. It strikes me as a possibility that the CD burning software might be interfering with Nero in the same way.

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                    but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
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                      Is is a CD-copy? Do you use the wizard? At home, Nero hanged during the burn when I used the wizard, but didn't when I used the "New compilation", then the "Copy CD" entry of the Left pane. (I may not remember the menuitem exactly, I don't have Nero here).


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                      KaЯl wrote: Is is a CD-copy? Yes. KaЯl wrote: Do you use the wizard? Yes, though I have tried the non-wizard dialog as well with the same result. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                        Daniel Turini wrote: 1. Do you have any other CD writing program installed? I had my quota of Easy CD Crasher Creator. Other things to check are the ASPI drivers. Nero is the only CD Authoring tool I have installed. I remember reading about some change you had to make to a part of XP to make XP work. ButI didn't have XP then so didn't tkae much notice. Now I have XP I can't find the tip anywhere. Daniel Turini wrote: 2. Hanging at 6%? Hmmm... If we are talking about full disk images here, it seems to be hanging when it's starting to actually writing anything (may be the lead-in, may be the real data). Does the media gets ruined or nothing is really written to the disk? Full disk images and direct on-the-fly copies. No there doesn't seem to be anything writen to the disk. Daniel Turini wrote: 3. After closing Nero, check if there is a reminiscent imapi.exe running. If there is, kill it, or future burnings withot a reboot won't work. There is but I have to reboot the machine anyway as nero.exe is still listed in Task Manager and I can't kill it no matter how hard I try. Daniel Turini wrote: 4. About the system locking when Nero locks (or bad media is inserted), you probably have your CD burner on the same IDE controller than your page file or your Desktop directory. Change it to best performance and safety. No, I have my 2 HDD on the primary IDE controller and both optical drives on the secondary. Daniel Turini wrote: 5. Check, on device manager, if any of your IDE controllers are on PIO mode. I have been intro trouble lately with this on Windows XP. Change it to DMA mode , if any of them is on PIO mode, which is old, slow and prone to lockups. I saw your post a few days ago and first thing I did was check this in Device Manager. Both are set to DMA Mode 2 or something like that. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                        Next things I would try is: you have a fairly new AMD-based machine, so you probably have a Bus Mastering controller. Are your bus mastering drivers updated? VIA 4 in 1 drivers are very famous for disk controller errors if not the last version. Is your burner on a RAID (like e.g., an onboard Promise controller)? This gave problems in the past. Can you read a CD from the burner drive? If don't, this would indicate a ill-connected IDE cable. Although by the symptoms it doesn't seem the problem, I would re-check cable connections and slave/master settings, just in case. Try to isolate specific Nero problems. Download a CloneCD demo and try to dupe a disk. Actually, something you can try to isolate if it's a hardware or a software trouble (I'm doing this a lot lately) would be using Knoppix to write a CD. If Knoppix have the same trouble, it's a hardware problem, if don't probably it's some trouble with your Windows installation. Acting as a substitute for God, he becomes a dispenser of justice. - Alexandre Dumas

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                          Michael Martin wrote: What time is it over there? It was about 6:30AM - not too early at all, since I didn't stay up until 3 last nite.:-O The standard CD cleaner should be fine. I'd also kill Nero and try using the native CD burning software built in to WinXP. It's the one and only feature of XP that actually works well, but it probably is interacting with Nero in undesirable ways. InCD is part of the Nero package, and should be disabled when you use the WinXP CD burning functions. I don't see an option to exit the program here on my desktop, so you probably have to do someting in the boot files or the registry to disable it temporarily. Maybe the task manager kill will work... I haven't tried the combination of Nero and WinXP, so I'm guessing here, but I do know that the built-in wireless functions of XP don't work with ORiNOCO equipment, and disrupt the software that they come with, rendering the whole works unstable and unreliable. It strikes me as a possibility that the CD burning software might be interfering with Nero in the same way.

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                          but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
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                          Roger Wright wrote: I haven't tried the combination of Nero and WinXP, so I'm guessing here, I have it on about 8 machines and it runs nice, only ran setup and everything runs fine. Acting as a substitute for God, he becomes a dispenser of justice. - Alexandre Dumas

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                            Michael Martin wrote: What time is it over there? It was about 6:30AM - not too early at all, since I didn't stay up until 3 last nite.:-O The standard CD cleaner should be fine. I'd also kill Nero and try using the native CD burning software built in to WinXP. It's the one and only feature of XP that actually works well, but it probably is interacting with Nero in undesirable ways. InCD is part of the Nero package, and should be disabled when you use the WinXP CD burning functions. I don't see an option to exit the program here on my desktop, so you probably have to do someting in the boot files or the registry to disable it temporarily. Maybe the task manager kill will work... I haven't tried the combination of Nero and WinXP, so I'm guessing here, but I do know that the built-in wireless functions of XP don't work with ORiNOCO equipment, and disrupt the software that they come with, rendering the whole works unstable and unreliable. It strikes me as a possibility that the CD burning software might be interfering with Nero in the same way.

                            "The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
                            but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
                            Lazarus Long

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                            Roger Wright wrote: The standard CD cleaner should be fine. I'd also kill Nero and try using the native CD burning software built in to WinXP. It's the one and only feature of XP that actually works well, but it probably is interacting with Nero in undesirable ways. InCD is part of the Nero package, and should be disabled when you use the WinXP CD burning functions. I don't see an option to exit the program here on my desktop, so you probably have to do someting in the boot files or the registry to disable it temporarily. Maybe the task manager kill will work... Cleaned the burner and tried copying another CD in case the current one that was hanging was the problem. Unfortunately for me the hanging at 6% still exists. Also I noticed that when Windows was shutting down and several minutes have passed I get an error message about a process that can't shutdown. 'InCD_GUI_MAINFRAME__1A6E0D67...' is in the title bar with the standard 'This program is not responding...' in the body. Will have to see if Google is my friend with this particular message. Didn't think the built-in XP burning software allowed for CD copying. I remember reading about XP and Nero and the fact you needed to make some changes to XP. Didn't pay much attention at the time as I didn't have XP, now I do I can't find the tip anywhere. According to http://www/ahead.de[^] under the Nero FAQ (not getting a direct link as I'ma lazy prick) holding down Ctrl and double-clicking the System Tray icon closes it though it didn't work for me. Their other way was to kill the process in the Task Manager. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                              Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                              I had a similar problem with Win2k a long time ago... I mailed Nero Support, they askes for a listing of drivert, when they got the list, they asked me to remove a single file. I did that and it all worked... Point is, try to mail the guys at Nero, they know what they talk about :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                                Next things I would try is: you have a fairly new AMD-based machine, so you probably have a Bus Mastering controller. Are your bus mastering drivers updated? VIA 4 in 1 drivers are very famous for disk controller errors if not the last version. Is your burner on a RAID (like e.g., an onboard Promise controller)? This gave problems in the past. Can you read a CD from the burner drive? If don't, this would indicate a ill-connected IDE cable. Although by the symptoms it doesn't seem the problem, I would re-check cable connections and slave/master settings, just in case. Try to isolate specific Nero problems. Download a CloneCD demo and try to dupe a disk. Actually, something you can try to isolate if it's a hardware or a software trouble (I'm doing this a lot lately) would be using Knoppix to write a CD. If Knoppix have the same trouble, it's a hardware problem, if don't probably it's some trouble with your Windows installation. Acting as a substitute for God, he becomes a dispenser of justice. - Alexandre Dumas

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                                Daniel Turini wrote: Next things I would try is: you have a fairly new AMD-based machine, so you probably have a Bus Mastering controller. Are your bus mastering drivers updated? VIA 4 in 1 drivers are very famous for disk controller errors if not the last version. Motherboard was first manufactured in September 2002 and I am using the drivers supplid on CD. I will look on the Gigabyte site and download the newest they suggest. Daniel Turini wrote: Is your burner on a RAID (like e.g., an onboard Promise controller)? This gave problems in the past. Can you read a CD from the burner drive? If don't, this would indicate a ill-connected IDE cable. Although by the symptoms it doesn't seem the problem, I would re-check cable connections and slave/master settings, just in case. Try to isolate specific Nero problems. Download a CloneCD demo and try to dupe a disk. Not on a RAID controller. Yes I can read a CD in the burner. Will look at the cables later today after I get some sleep. Will try CloneCD too, thanks for the tip. Daniel Turini wrote: Actually, something you can try to isolate if it's a hardware or a software trouble (I'm doing this a lot lately) would be using Knoppix to write a CD. If Knoppix have the same trouble, it's a hardware problem, if don't probably it's some trouble with your Windows installation. I have Knoppix and never thought to try it. After I try it I will have to install RedHat and FreeBSD. I bought the new HDD to give me the room, re-partitioned and installed XP and never got around to the other OS's. Good way to debug my hardware problems as well. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                                  Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                                  I just wanted to add that I had a huge problem with Nero when the buffer underrun protection (aka ExacLink on the Nero burn prefs screen) was turned on. Don't ask me why. Anyway, unchecking that option solved the problem at the (not too great) expense of not having underrun protection. -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

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                                    Roger Wright wrote: The standard CD cleaner should be fine. I'd also kill Nero and try using the native CD burning software built in to WinXP. It's the one and only feature of XP that actually works well, but it probably is interacting with Nero in undesirable ways. InCD is part of the Nero package, and should be disabled when you use the WinXP CD burning functions. I don't see an option to exit the program here on my desktop, so you probably have to do someting in the boot files or the registry to disable it temporarily. Maybe the task manager kill will work... Cleaned the burner and tried copying another CD in case the current one that was hanging was the problem. Unfortunately for me the hanging at 6% still exists. Also I noticed that when Windows was shutting down and several minutes have passed I get an error message about a process that can't shutdown. 'InCD_GUI_MAINFRAME__1A6E0D67...' is in the title bar with the standard 'This program is not responding...' in the body. Will have to see if Google is my friend with this particular message. Didn't think the built-in XP burning software allowed for CD copying. I remember reading about XP and Nero and the fact you needed to make some changes to XP. Didn't pay much attention at the time as I didn't have XP, now I do I can't find the tip anywhere. According to http://www/ahead.de[^] under the Nero FAQ (not getting a direct link as I'ma lazy prick) holding down Ctrl and double-clicking the System Tray icon closes it though it didn't work for me. Their other way was to kill the process in the Task Manager. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                                    Have you tried downloading and installing the latest version of InCD[^]? It says that it's compatible with XP, and it might solve a few problems for you.

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                                      Have you tried downloading and installing the latest version of InCD[^]? It says that it's compatible with XP, and it might solve a few problems for you.

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                                      Roger Wright wrote: Have you tried downloading and installing the latest version of InCD[^]? It says that it's compatible with XP, and it might solve a few problems for you. Yep, running 4.1.0.7 as we type. Also last I checked I had 32% of the CD burned after half an hour or more. Will leave i over night to see what happens. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                                        Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002

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                                        FWIW I have NERO 5.5.9.9 and XP and an LG 48/24/48 burner, no problems of any kind after hundreds of CD's burned for backup. ------------

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                                          I just wanted to add that I had a huge problem with Nero when the buffer underrun protection (aka ExacLink on the Nero burn prefs screen) was turned on. Don't ask me why. Anyway, unchecking that option solved the problem at the (not too great) expense of not having underrun protection. -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...

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                                          Oz Solomonovich wrote: ExacLink on the Nero burn prefs screen I think the name you see depends on what the burner tells Nero. I've used the same version of Nero on three different burners with buffer underrun, my Plextor calls it Burn Proof, my dad's Iomega calls it something else and my laptop calls it SmoothLink. James "I despise the city and much prefer being where a traffic jam means a line-up at McDonald's" Me when telling a friend why I wouldn't want to live with him

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