Windows XP and Nero 5.5.10.42
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Michael Martin wrote: What time is it over there? It was about 6:30AM - not too early at all, since I didn't stay up until 3 last nite.:-O The standard CD cleaner should be fine. I'd also kill Nero and try using the native CD burning software built in to WinXP. It's the one and only feature of XP that actually works well, but it probably is interacting with Nero in undesirable ways. InCD is part of the Nero package, and should be disabled when you use the WinXP CD burning functions. I don't see an option to exit the program here on my desktop, so you probably have to do someting in the boot files or the registry to disable it temporarily. Maybe the task manager kill will work... I haven't tried the combination of Nero and WinXP, so I'm guessing here, but I do know that the built-in wireless functions of XP don't work with ORiNOCO equipment, and disrupt the software that they come with, rendering the whole works unstable and unreliable. It strikes me as a possibility that the CD burning software might be interfering with Nero in the same way.
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
Lazarus LongRoger Wright wrote: I haven't tried the combination of Nero and WinXP, so I'm guessing here, I have it on about 8 machines and it runs nice, only ran setup and everything runs fine. Acting as a substitute for God, he becomes a dispenser of justice. - Alexandre Dumas
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Michael Martin wrote: What time is it over there? It was about 6:30AM - not too early at all, since I didn't stay up until 3 last nite.:-O The standard CD cleaner should be fine. I'd also kill Nero and try using the native CD burning software built in to WinXP. It's the one and only feature of XP that actually works well, but it probably is interacting with Nero in undesirable ways. InCD is part of the Nero package, and should be disabled when you use the WinXP CD burning functions. I don't see an option to exit the program here on my desktop, so you probably have to do someting in the boot files or the registry to disable it temporarily. Maybe the task manager kill will work... I haven't tried the combination of Nero and WinXP, so I'm guessing here, but I do know that the built-in wireless functions of XP don't work with ORiNOCO equipment, and disrupt the software that they come with, rendering the whole works unstable and unreliable. It strikes me as a possibility that the CD burning software might be interfering with Nero in the same way.
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
Lazarus LongRoger Wright wrote: The standard CD cleaner should be fine. I'd also kill Nero and try using the native CD burning software built in to WinXP. It's the one and only feature of XP that actually works well, but it probably is interacting with Nero in undesirable ways. InCD is part of the Nero package, and should be disabled when you use the WinXP CD burning functions. I don't see an option to exit the program here on my desktop, so you probably have to do someting in the boot files or the registry to disable it temporarily. Maybe the task manager kill will work... Cleaned the burner and tried copying another CD in case the current one that was hanging was the problem. Unfortunately for me the hanging at 6% still exists. Also I noticed that when Windows was shutting down and several minutes have passed I get an error message about a process that can't shutdown. 'InCD_GUI_MAINFRAME__1A6E0D67...' is in the title bar with the standard 'This program is not responding...' in the body. Will have to see if Google is my friend with this particular message. Didn't think the built-in XP burning software allowed for CD copying. I remember reading about XP and Nero and the fact you needed to make some changes to XP. Didn't pay much attention at the time as I didn't have XP, now I do I can't find the tip anywhere. According to http://www/ahead.de[^] under the Nero FAQ (not getting a direct link as I'ma lazy prick) holding down Ctrl and double-clicking the System Tray icon closes it though it didn't work for me. Their other way was to kill the process in the Task Manager. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
I had a similar problem with Win2k a long time ago... I mailed Nero Support, they askes for a listing of drivert, when they got the list, they asked me to remove a single file. I did that and it all worked... Point is, try to mail the guys at Nero, they know what they talk about :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Next things I would try is: you have a fairly new AMD-based machine, so you probably have a Bus Mastering controller. Are your bus mastering drivers updated? VIA 4 in 1 drivers are very famous for disk controller errors if not the last version. Is your burner on a RAID (like e.g., an onboard Promise controller)? This gave problems in the past. Can you read a CD from the burner drive? If don't, this would indicate a ill-connected IDE cable. Although by the symptoms it doesn't seem the problem, I would re-check cable connections and slave/master settings, just in case. Try to isolate specific Nero problems. Download a CloneCD demo and try to dupe a disk. Actually, something you can try to isolate if it's a hardware or a software trouble (I'm doing this a lot lately) would be using Knoppix to write a CD. If Knoppix have the same trouble, it's a hardware problem, if don't probably it's some trouble with your Windows installation. Acting as a substitute for God, he becomes a dispenser of justice. - Alexandre Dumas
Daniel Turini wrote: Next things I would try is: you have a fairly new AMD-based machine, so you probably have a Bus Mastering controller. Are your bus mastering drivers updated? VIA 4 in 1 drivers are very famous for disk controller errors if not the last version. Motherboard was first manufactured in September 2002 and I am using the drivers supplid on CD. I will look on the Gigabyte site and download the newest they suggest. Daniel Turini wrote: Is your burner on a RAID (like e.g., an onboard Promise controller)? This gave problems in the past. Can you read a CD from the burner drive? If don't, this would indicate a ill-connected IDE cable. Although by the symptoms it doesn't seem the problem, I would re-check cable connections and slave/master settings, just in case. Try to isolate specific Nero problems. Download a CloneCD demo and try to dupe a disk. Not on a RAID controller. Yes I can read a CD in the burner. Will look at the cables later today after I get some sleep. Will try CloneCD too, thanks for the tip. Daniel Turini wrote: Actually, something you can try to isolate if it's a hardware or a software trouble (I'm doing this a lot lately) would be using Knoppix to write a CD. If Knoppix have the same trouble, it's a hardware problem, if don't probably it's some trouble with your Windows installation. I have Knoppix and never thought to try it. After I try it I will have to install RedHat and FreeBSD. I bought the new HDD to give me the room, re-partitioned and installed XP and never got around to the other OS's. Good way to debug my hardware problems as well. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
I just wanted to add that I had a huge problem with Nero when the buffer underrun protection (aka ExacLink on the Nero burn prefs screen) was turned on. Don't ask me why. Anyway, unchecking that option solved the problem at the (not too great) expense of not having underrun protection. -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...
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Roger Wright wrote: The standard CD cleaner should be fine. I'd also kill Nero and try using the native CD burning software built in to WinXP. It's the one and only feature of XP that actually works well, but it probably is interacting with Nero in undesirable ways. InCD is part of the Nero package, and should be disabled when you use the WinXP CD burning functions. I don't see an option to exit the program here on my desktop, so you probably have to do someting in the boot files or the registry to disable it temporarily. Maybe the task manager kill will work... Cleaned the burner and tried copying another CD in case the current one that was hanging was the problem. Unfortunately for me the hanging at 6% still exists. Also I noticed that when Windows was shutting down and several minutes have passed I get an error message about a process that can't shutdown. 'InCD_GUI_MAINFRAME__1A6E0D67...' is in the title bar with the standard 'This program is not responding...' in the body. Will have to see if Google is my friend with this particular message. Didn't think the built-in XP burning software allowed for CD copying. I remember reading about XP and Nero and the fact you needed to make some changes to XP. Didn't pay much attention at the time as I didn't have XP, now I do I can't find the tip anywhere. According to http://www/ahead.de[^] under the Nero FAQ (not getting a direct link as I'ma lazy prick) holding down Ctrl and double-clicking the System Tray icon closes it though it didn't work for me. Their other way was to kill the process in the Task Manager. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Roger Wright wrote: Have you tried downloading and installing the latest version of InCD[^]? It says that it's compatible with XP, and it might solve a few problems for you. Yep, running 4.1.0.7 as we type. Also last I checked I had 32% of the CD burned after half an hour or more. Will leave i over night to see what happens. Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
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I just wanted to add that I had a huge problem with Nero when the buffer underrun protection (aka ExacLink on the Nero burn prefs screen) was turned on. Don't ask me why. Anyway, unchecking that option solved the problem at the (not too great) expense of not having underrun protection. -Oz --- Grab WndTabs from http://www.wndtabs.com to make your VC6 experience that much more comfortable...
Oz Solomonovich wrote: ExacLink on the Nero burn prefs screen I think the name you see depends on what the burner tells Nero. I've used the same version of Nero on three different burners with buffer underrun, my Plextor calls it Burn Proof, my dad's Iomega calls it something else and my laptop calls it SmoothLink. James "I despise the city and much prefer being where a traffic jam means a line-up at McDonald's" Me when telling a friend why I wouldn't want to live with him
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Having a small problem (read understatement here) copying a few CD's at the moment. They are my own creations of patches, service packs and freeware I use when onsite fixing network and computer problems. So the anti-piracy comments don't need to be trotted out here. I am running Windows XP Professional SP1, Nero 5.5.10.42 on an Athlon XP 1800+, 512MB RAM, Sony DVD-ROM and 48x/12x/48x CD-RW. I have been recently creating a lot of coasters after only 1 in the last 15 months when using Windows 2000 Professional. Tonight I got a couple to burn successfully is row before a new problem turned up. If I'm copying on the fly, via the HDD or from an image file I created from the disk writing gets to 6% before it just hangs. I then have to use the Task Manager to kill Nero.exe before I can shutdown the computer. I get the lovely music, icons and wallpaper disappear then the blue background just stays there before I have to use the reset or power button to move on. I am assuming that no hardware is broken as I was able to burn cd's moments before and nothing has physically happened to the computer. I haven't added or changed any software or updates in the past few days either. Google hasn't been my friend in this case and I have no idea what to try next. Anyone have something for me to try to get this to work? Michael Martin Australia "I personally love it because I can get as down and dirty as I want on the backend, while also being able to dabble with fun scripting and presentation games on the front end." - Chris Maunder 15/07/2002
Maybe the IDE cables are running the burner in PIO mode (instead of DMA). I made a few coasters before I figured this problem out with my LG burner. Maybe when you installed the new HDD, XP changed the settings (sounds like something XP would do). I also find it better (ie: it makes more sense to me) to put the burner on your matser and make the dvd-rom the slave. FYI: My Nero ramps up to 6% fairly quickly, then sits there for a little while, then slowly continues the burn. You could always do what my friend did: install a fresh copy of Win98 on another partition and boot into that when you want to burn. :wtf::wtf: (I'm not kidding, he has 2 OS's, and the second is *ONLY* used for burning. personally, I'd try find out why XP doens't burn before going through and installing a new OS). Then again, this is the guy who had 98, overinstalled 2000, overinstalled XP, and claims his system is "optimized" :omg::eek::wtf:. I prefer to wear gloves when using it, but that's merely a matter of personal hygiene [Roger Wright on VB] Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. [Rich Cook]
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Michael Martin wrote: What time is it over there? It was about 6:30AM - not too early at all, since I didn't stay up until 3 last nite.:-O The standard CD cleaner should be fine. I'd also kill Nero and try using the native CD burning software built in to WinXP. It's the one and only feature of XP that actually works well, but it probably is interacting with Nero in undesirable ways. InCD is part of the Nero package, and should be disabled when you use the WinXP CD burning functions. I don't see an option to exit the program here on my desktop, so you probably have to do someting in the boot files or the registry to disable it temporarily. Maybe the task manager kill will work... I haven't tried the combination of Nero and WinXP, so I'm guessing here, but I do know that the built-in wireless functions of XP don't work with ORiNOCO equipment, and disrupt the software that they come with, rendering the whole works unstable and unreliable. It strikes me as a possibility that the CD burning software might be interfering with Nero in the same way.
"The Lion shall lie down with the Lamb;
but the Lamb will not get much sleep..."
Lazarus LongRoger Wright wrote: but I do know that the built-in wireless functions of XP don't work with ORiNOCO equipment, FYI I'm using an ORiNOCO card in my Dell Notebook with WinXP Pro without any problems. Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Free Trial at www.getsoft.com