HW gurus - videocard question
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I am looking for a video card with nVidia GeForce chipset with nView support, so it can be used with two CRT monitors. Most of the cards I've seen have VGA+DVI output (dual VGA is very rare). I know that it is possible to connect analog CRT monitor to the DVI output of the video card using a DVI-VGA adapter. But there is another issue, some of the cards have dual DAC units, others have a single DAC unit. Does this mean, that a card with a single DAC will be unable to display separate output for two CRT monitors (using the DVI-VGA adapter) and the same output will be displayed on both CRT monitors, whereas it will be able to display separate desktops when used with one CRT monitor and one LCD panel? Does this also mean, that a card with dual DAC will be capable to display separate desktops using either two CRT montiors or one CRT monitor + one LCD panel? Please help, I'm clueless :( Thanks in advance Rado
I know there's an ATI video card out there that you can use a TV as a second monitor through analog plugs. All-In-Wonder 8500 I think. Kind of nice where you don't have to dish out for a second monitor. <--Signature begins here--> I am... Currently: A Programming Student/Intern. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. GamePark32 English(Engrish) site[^] Wishing to better learn: Graphical programming with C++. P.S. I'm not good with HTML, so don't expect something fancy in my sig. But I'm working on it, OK?
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I know there's an ATI video card out there that you can use a TV as a second monitor through analog plugs. All-In-Wonder 8500 I think. Kind of nice where you don't have to dish out for a second monitor. <--Signature begins here--> I am... Currently: A Programming Student/Intern. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. GamePark32 English(Engrish) site[^] Wishing to better learn: Graphical programming with C++. P.S. I'm not good with HTML, so don't expect something fancy in my sig. But I'm working on it, OK?
nssone wrote: I know there's an ATI video card out there that you can use a TV as a second monitor through analog plugs. All-In-Wonder 8500 I think. Kind of nice where you don't have to dish out for a second monitor. Well, I have an old ATI Rage Pro 128 (or something like that) which has a TV-output, but this card has a single RAMDAC as I've just found out, so that is why it can only display same output on both TV and the monitor (both have to have the same resolution as well). Rado
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I am looking for a video card with nVidia GeForce chipset with nView support, so it can be used with two CRT monitors. Most of the cards I've seen have VGA+DVI output (dual VGA is very rare). I know that it is possible to connect analog CRT monitor to the DVI output of the video card using a DVI-VGA adapter. But there is another issue, some of the cards have dual DAC units, others have a single DAC unit. Does this mean, that a card with a single DAC will be unable to display separate output for two CRT monitors (using the DVI-VGA adapter) and the same output will be displayed on both CRT monitors, whereas it will be able to display separate desktops when used with one CRT monitor and one LCD panel? Does this also mean, that a card with dual DAC will be capable to display separate desktops using either two CRT montiors or one CRT monitor + one LCD panel? Please help, I'm clueless :( Thanks in advance Rado
I did a little google "research" and found out that dual RAMDAC is needed in order to have dual CRT monitor setup with different output sent to each monitor. Thanks everyone for information, I didn't even know that dual video-card setup is possible :) I will definitely try it as soon as I will find my old PCI card :) Rado
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nssone wrote: I know there's an ATI video card out there that you can use a TV as a second monitor through analog plugs. All-In-Wonder 8500 I think. Kind of nice where you don't have to dish out for a second monitor. Well, I have an old ATI Rage Pro 128 (or something like that) which has a TV-output, but this card has a single RAMDAC as I've just found out, so that is why it can only display same output on both TV and the monitor (both have to have the same resolution as well). Rado
Yeah, but does it act as a dual-monitor? The ATI card I'm talking about does that. <--Signature begins here--> I am... Currently: A Programming Student/Intern. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. GamePark32 English(Engrish) site[^] Wishing to better learn: Graphical programming with C++. P.S. I'm not good with HTML, so don't expect something fancy in my sig. But I'm working on it, OK?
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Yeah, but does it act as a dual-monitor? The ATI card I'm talking about does that. <--Signature begins here--> I am... Currently: A Programming Student/Intern. Working on an outside project: A game for the GamePark32 (GP32) portable gaming console. GamePark32 English(Engrish) site[^] Wishing to better learn: Graphical programming with C++. P.S. I'm not good with HTML, so don't expect something fancy in my sig. But I'm working on it, OK?
nssone wrote: Yeah, but does it act as a dual-monitor? The ATI card I'm talking about does that. I have never really used it, I was just playing with it two years ago, but I guess it doesn't. Rado
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I am looking for a video card with nVidia GeForce chipset with nView support, so it can be used with two CRT monitors. Most of the cards I've seen have VGA+DVI output (dual VGA is very rare). I know that it is possible to connect analog CRT monitor to the DVI output of the video card using a DVI-VGA adapter. But there is another issue, some of the cards have dual DAC units, others have a single DAC unit. Does this mean, that a card with a single DAC will be unable to display separate output for two CRT monitors (using the DVI-VGA adapter) and the same output will be displayed on both CRT monitors, whereas it will be able to display separate desktops when used with one CRT monitor and one LCD panel? Does this also mean, that a card with dual DAC will be capable to display separate desktops using either two CRT montiors or one CRT monitor + one LCD panel? Please help, I'm clueless :( Thanks in advance Rado
Radoslav Bielik wrote: Most of the cards I've seen have VGA+DVI output (dual VGA is very rare). I have several of these cards (from matrox and NVIDIA) and in most cases the second connector is DVI but you can use the adaptor. As for your other questions I would go their webpage and see myself. All my cards support both clone and seperate display mode but there are too many models for me to make a blanket statement. John
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I did a little google "research" and found out that dual RAMDAC is needed in order to have dual CRT monitor setup with different output sent to each monitor. Thanks everyone for information, I didn't even know that dual video-card setup is possible :) I will definitely try it as soon as I will find my old PCI card :) Rado
Radoslav Bielik wrote: I didn't even know that dual video-card setup is possible I will definitely try it as soon as I will find my old PCI card I have 5 monitors and three graphics cards on a mamography workstation I designed... John
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Radoslav Bielik wrote: dual VGA is very rare All ya have to do is shop around a bit. :) I just ordered this one myself a few days ago. http://www.axiontech.com/prdt.php?item=13176[^] There is an alternative btw, you could install two video cards with one output each instead of just one that has dual outputs. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: install two video cards Won't this require 2 AGP slots? Unless you still have a PCI video card laying around :~ Or are there AGP to PCI converters? (that would be really cool) :-D I prefer to wear gloves when using it, but that's merely a matter of personal hygiene [Roger Wright on VB] Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. [Rich Cook]
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I did a little google "research" and found out that dual RAMDAC is needed in order to have dual CRT monitor setup with different output sent to each monitor. Thanks everyone for information, I didn't even know that dual video-card setup is possible :) I will definitely try it as soon as I will find my old PCI card :) Rado
Radoslav Bielik wrote: I didn't even know that dual video-card setup is possible I will definitely try it as soon as I will find my old PCI card Only if your old PCI card supports dual head (it needs to relocate its VRAM addresses and disable its BIOS, as you order on BIOS Setup). Normally, any not-so-old card will do the trick. The (rather old) list of the supported cards can be found on MSDN (search for NVidia and you'll find). Acting as a substitute for God, he becomes a dispenser of justice. - Alexandre Dumas
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I am looking for a video card with nVidia GeForce chipset with nView support, so it can be used with two CRT monitors. Most of the cards I've seen have VGA+DVI output (dual VGA is very rare). I know that it is possible to connect analog CRT monitor to the DVI output of the video card using a DVI-VGA adapter. But there is another issue, some of the cards have dual DAC units, others have a single DAC unit. Does this mean, that a card with a single DAC will be unable to display separate output for two CRT monitors (using the DVI-VGA adapter) and the same output will be displayed on both CRT monitors, whereas it will be able to display separate desktops when used with one CRT monitor and one LCD panel? Does this also mean, that a card with dual DAC will be capable to display separate desktops using either two CRT montiors or one CRT monitor + one LCD panel? Please help, I'm clueless :( Thanks in advance Rado
There is another alternative. I have a geforce 4600 which supports DVI & VGA x 2. This is attached to a widescreen TFT monitor - 1920x1200 :) http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=vwnpxVGGsqzp2m6miB3jzh6XmAOj8TvCnk0=?CatalogCategoryID=lcMKC0%2eNSqUAAAD2r8MRbIkn&ProductID=18cKC0%2eNxSkAAAD21PcRbIks&Dept=cpu The widescreen monitor provides almost as much as 2 x 1280x1024 screens, and you don't get the annoying border in the middle. It's awesome....
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: install two video cards Won't this require 2 AGP slots? Unless you still have a PCI video card laying around :~ Or are there AGP to PCI converters? (that would be really cool) :-D I prefer to wear gloves when using it, but that's merely a matter of personal hygiene [Roger Wright on VB] Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. [Rich Cook]
Atlantys wrote: Won't this require 2 AGP slots? Unless you still have a PCI video card laying around You'd have to use a AGP/PCI combo because of A: one AGP slot per mobo and B: the AGP architecture calls for only one dedicated AGP card. I wonder if a converter is possible though. I mean AGP uses the PCI chipset, it's just faster and dedicated memory. Hmmm... Jeremy Falcon
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I am looking for a video card with nVidia GeForce chipset with nView support, so it can be used with two CRT monitors. Most of the cards I've seen have VGA+DVI output (dual VGA is very rare). I know that it is possible to connect analog CRT monitor to the DVI output of the video card using a DVI-VGA adapter. But there is another issue, some of the cards have dual DAC units, others have a single DAC unit. Does this mean, that a card with a single DAC will be unable to display separate output for two CRT monitors (using the DVI-VGA adapter) and the same output will be displayed on both CRT monitors, whereas it will be able to display separate desktops when used with one CRT monitor and one LCD panel? Does this also mean, that a card with dual DAC will be capable to display separate desktops using either two CRT montiors or one CRT monitor + one LCD panel? Please help, I'm clueless :( Thanks in advance Rado
All you have to do is plug a DVI to CRT adapter into the card, and you change the dvi to a standard, meaning you can plug in two regular CRTs. Here's a dual sub 15[^] Here you can shop by selecting what kind of outputs you want for the first 4 outputs [^] ...
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All you have to do is plug a DVI to CRT adapter into the card, and you change the dvi to a standard, meaning you can plug in two regular CRTs. Here's a dual sub 15[^] Here you can shop by selecting what kind of outputs you want for the first 4 outputs [^] ...
zenboy wrote: All you have to do is plug a DVI to CRT adapter into the card, and you change the dvi to a standard, meaning you can plug in two regular CRTs. I think I will try this with some of the nVidia cards, and thanks for the links! Rado
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zenboy wrote: All you have to do is plug a DVI to CRT adapter into the card, and you change the dvi to a standard, meaning you can plug in two regular CRTs. I think I will try this with some of the nVidia cards, and thanks for the links! Rado
This is the puppy I have http://www.leadtek.com/3d\_graphic/winfast\_a280\_letd\_myvivo\_1.html A Sony 21" on the vga slot running 1600 res and 1024 on a smaller screen dvi one
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Atlantys wrote: Won't this require 2 AGP slots? Unless you still have a PCI video card laying around You'd have to use a AGP/PCI combo because of A: one AGP slot per mobo and B: the AGP architecture calls for only one dedicated AGP card. I wonder if a converter is possible though. I mean AGP uses the PCI chipset, it's just faster and dedicated memory. Hmmm... Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: AGP/PCI combo Yeah, that's what I thought. Very annoying: I wanna hook up both my Radeon128 and my nVidia "Personal Cinema" TV-tuner card. :( I prefer to wear gloves when using it, but that's merely a matter of personal hygiene [Roger Wright on VB] Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. [Rich Cook]