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and what if , this is exactly what they want. a blind strong repost. .... go , burn them , and they'll win ... Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com
You guys all need to understand something about military tactics. As long as the enemy is capable of going on the offensive, you have to care about his goals. If you are on the offensive, he has to care about yours. Their goals are not important, only ours.
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eye for eye , is that the point ???? so go , shutdown 2 or 3 building , that may satisfy you ? Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com
This is my last attempt at being civil. Let's just assume for a moment, that France has the technological know-how to build a building complex capable of standing at 110 stories, and that they could somehow get 50,000 French people to stand each other long enough to actually get some viable work done. Now, let's assume that the same bastards that I would like to see turned into a collective puddle hijacked three Air-France jetliners and ran two of them into this building complex, killing a significant number of these French citizens, and then ran the third airliner into a significant government building (if you indeed have anything more significant than a sidewalk cafe). Are you trying to tell me that as a group, the French would just sit around on their collective asses sniffing wine corks and saying "turn he other cheek"? You're delusional. You'd be screaming for someone's head(s).
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This is my last attempt at being civil. Let's just assume for a moment, that France has the technological know-how to build a building complex capable of standing at 110 stories, and that they could somehow get 50,000 French people to stand each other long enough to actually get some viable work done. Now, let's assume that the same bastards that I would like to see turned into a collective puddle hijacked three Air-France jetliners and ran two of them into this building complex, killing a significant number of these French citizens, and then ran the third airliner into a significant government building (if you indeed have anything more significant than a sidewalk cafe). Are you trying to tell me that as a group, the French would just sit around on their collective asses sniffing wine corks and saying "turn he other cheek"? You're delusional. You'd be screaming for someone's head(s).
I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass. anyway , what's next , unless you kill them all , your just giving more reason to do it again and again. i'm not saying we have to do nothing , i'm just saying that replying in an hanger is surly not the solution . are the united state army going to occupy all arabic contry ? or just replaying the golf war and go back home ? by the way , i like your vision of french .. ;P Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com
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I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass. anyway , what's next , unless you kill them all , your just giving more reason to do it again and again. i'm not saying we have to do nothing , i'm just saying that replying in an hanger is surly not the solution . are the united state army going to occupy all arabic contry ? or just replaying the golf war and go back home ? by the way , i like your vision of french .. ;P Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com
"I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass." Man, that would be a first! (Sorry, is that intolerant?)
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"I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass." Man, that would be a first! (Sorry, is that intolerant?)
"Man, that would be a first!" yes , and even after subway attack few years ago , we just kill people who did that , and that's it . what should we have done , blast the all algerie ? this may look coward , but i'm satisfy whit this. "(Sorry, is that intolerant?)" not too much. cowboy Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com
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"Man, that would be a first!" yes , and even after subway attack few years ago , we just kill people who did that , and that's it . what should we have done , blast the all algerie ? this may look coward , but i'm satisfy whit this. "(Sorry, is that intolerant?)" not too much. cowboy Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com
Probably has more to do with the Anglo-Saxon in me than the Cowboy. Just couldn't resist. Sorry.:rose: ;)
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Probably has more to do with the Anglo-Saxon in me than the Cowboy. Just couldn't resist. Sorry.:rose: ;)
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Just trying to stay out of trouble. I wonder if I could get away with razzing Texans?;P
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Just trying to stay out of trouble. I wonder if I could get away with razzing Texans?;P
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You guys all need to understand something about military tactics. As long as the enemy is capable of going on the offensive, you have to care about his goals. If you are on the offensive, he has to care about yours. Their goals are not important, only ours.
I agree with gilles dassac. The problem with this situation right now is that we are all on an emotional high. Those who say you didn't lose a loved one is only kidding themselves when one believes the American people are one as it says in the Constitution. And those that are outside of our nation, to tell them they didn't lose a loved one, is also only kidding themselves when one believes that as a world, every person is united. I fear the US acting blinding with emotion. Most counties have. We have proven what happens when we have acted as such. Japan learned that American anger is deadly and devisating. Did all those people really have to die to win the war against evil? I believe America needs to step back from this situation, retire themselves from the shock and anger and look upon a resolve that is morale and from the heart and not from anger. If we react blindly to this, terrorism will never be defeated. This event may happen again, and quite possibly to the French and the Effiel Tower. Whose to know. I sure as hell do not want anyone to experience what we have just experienced, not even one my greatest enemy. I greatly appreciate how many countries have provided their sympathies and would ask that these sympathies continue long past this tragedy, for it's this sort of unity, that makes all of the pain bearable and makes us resilient and stronger. (ps. You have no idea how much I am trying to get a point through. Yet it's hard when their are those who close themselves off from my message. I have even attempted to write to the President to stop him from acting out of anger. I will continue to fight for peace and morale until my final breath. This is something I take 100% seriously. And this is something that I will never give up on. I only hope that maybe what I say will reach one person. From there, I pray for a 2-3 tree to be created. bad pun... Okay, so I'm not serious all the time :)
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Give it a shot. :) I think we've entered Chris's sleep time. We may be able to getaway with having our messages in the lounge for at least 3 or four hours per day. :)
Nope, I'm covering the fort while chris gets his zzzzzzzzzzzz's
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I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass. anyway , what's next , unless you kill them all , your just giving more reason to do it again and again. i'm not saying we have to do nothing , i'm just saying that replying in an hanger is surly not the solution . are the united state army going to occupy all arabic contry ? or just replaying the golf war and go back home ? by the way , i like your vision of french .. ;P Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com
"anyway , what's next , unless you kill them all , your just giving more reason to do it again and again." You're statement is true. Another legitimate statement is that US will kill them all (or at least most capable of real damage). US will also destroy or greatly damage those nations that "harbor them." And yes, we are capable of doing that. In other wars such as WWII, Vietnam, Gulfwar, etc we did great damage even though the mainland wasn't hit and many Americans and Congress didn't support war. Now that the government is backed by the people and the funds granted and a NATO coalition is being formed, they we'll learn the meaning of the word "WAR." They believe that kiling is for the cause of religion. No religion says that, not even the Koran book. Fanatics that will harshly pay.
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I agree with gilles dassac. The problem with this situation right now is that we are all on an emotional high. Those who say you didn't lose a loved one is only kidding themselves when one believes the American people are one as it says in the Constitution. And those that are outside of our nation, to tell them they didn't lose a loved one, is also only kidding themselves when one believes that as a world, every person is united. I fear the US acting blinding with emotion. Most counties have. We have proven what happens when we have acted as such. Japan learned that American anger is deadly and devisating. Did all those people really have to die to win the war against evil? I believe America needs to step back from this situation, retire themselves from the shock and anger and look upon a resolve that is morale and from the heart and not from anger. If we react blindly to this, terrorism will never be defeated. This event may happen again, and quite possibly to the French and the Effiel Tower. Whose to know. I sure as hell do not want anyone to experience what we have just experienced, not even one my greatest enemy. I greatly appreciate how many countries have provided their sympathies and would ask that these sympathies continue long past this tragedy, for it's this sort of unity, that makes all of the pain bearable and makes us resilient and stronger. (ps. You have no idea how much I am trying to get a point through. Yet it's hard when their are those who close themselves off from my message. I have even attempted to write to the President to stop him from acting out of anger. I will continue to fight for peace and morale until my final breath. This is something I take 100% seriously. And this is something that I will never give up on. I only hope that maybe what I say will reach one person. From there, I pray for a 2-3 tree to be created. bad pun... Okay, so I'm not serious all the time :)
So what are you saying, that u want terrorist to hit us again. You want us to back off and show the world how much of a coward we are. I respect your opinion, but I believe we must strike back. Imagine how many people lost relatives. How many professionals died. How much money was lost. How much hours of work went into constructing the twins. How much the economy will crash. How much the Palestinians celebrated. And you still want peace?
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Nope, I'm covering the fort while chris gets his zzzzzzzzzzzz's
Damn - DAMN !!! :) Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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Nope, I'm covering the fort while chris gets his zzzzzzzzzzzz's
Ah, just as well, I can't remember any of my Texas jokes anyway.
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"I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass." Man, that would be a first! (Sorry, is that intolerant?)
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"anyway , what's next , unless you kill them all , your just giving more reason to do it again and again." You're statement is true. Another legitimate statement is that US will kill them all (or at least most capable of real damage). US will also destroy or greatly damage those nations that "harbor them." And yes, we are capable of doing that. In other wars such as WWII, Vietnam, Gulfwar, etc we did great damage even though the mainland wasn't hit and many Americans and Congress didn't support war. Now that the government is backed by the people and the funds granted and a NATO coalition is being formed, they we'll learn the meaning of the word "WAR." They believe that kiling is for the cause of religion. No religion says that, not even the Koran book. Fanatics that will harshly pay.
I hope you are right, but I have my doubts. I think we can get every terrorist in the middle east, but if those governments in the middle east are left intact, within six months there will be 10,000 more terrorists trained and ready to carry on. I firmly believe, as a minimum, that we have no choice but to destroy the political integrity of Iran, Iraq,Syria, Afganistan and possibly Saudi Arabia in precisely the same way we destroyed Japan's political integrity. We would than need to hold and control that area until such time as it would take to establish level headed, democratic, forward thinking governments in their stead. That could take several decades. I don't believe that we, and certainly not our NATO "allies", who collectively dislike us almost as much as the Arabs do, have the will, or even the means to do that. "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
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I agree with gilles dassac. The problem with this situation right now is that we are all on an emotional high. Those who say you didn't lose a loved one is only kidding themselves when one believes the American people are one as it says in the Constitution. And those that are outside of our nation, to tell them they didn't lose a loved one, is also only kidding themselves when one believes that as a world, every person is united. I fear the US acting blinding with emotion. Most counties have. We have proven what happens when we have acted as such. Japan learned that American anger is deadly and devisating. Did all those people really have to die to win the war against evil? I believe America needs to step back from this situation, retire themselves from the shock and anger and look upon a resolve that is morale and from the heart and not from anger. If we react blindly to this, terrorism will never be defeated. This event may happen again, and quite possibly to the French and the Effiel Tower. Whose to know. I sure as hell do not want anyone to experience what we have just experienced, not even one my greatest enemy. I greatly appreciate how many countries have provided their sympathies and would ask that these sympathies continue long past this tragedy, for it's this sort of unity, that makes all of the pain bearable and makes us resilient and stronger. (ps. You have no idea how much I am trying to get a point through. Yet it's hard when their are those who close themselves off from my message. I have even attempted to write to the President to stop him from acting out of anger. I will continue to fight for peace and morale until my final breath. This is something I take 100% seriously. And this is something that I will never give up on. I only hope that maybe what I say will reach one person. From there, I pray for a 2-3 tree to be created. bad pun... Okay, so I'm not serious all the time :)
I've been thinking about your argument, and I'm afraid I cannot accept it. My commitment to civilization extends only so far as my enemies allow it to go. If they don't want civilization, fine, I'll give them unconstrained barbarism. There is no such thing as a "moral" war, my friend. (BTW, where does it say in the constitution that the "American people are one"?) "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
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I've been thinking about your argument, and I'm afraid I cannot accept it. My commitment to civilization extends only so far as my enemies allow it to go. If they don't want civilization, fine, I'll give them unconstrained barbarism. There is no such thing as a "moral" war, my friend. (BTW, where does it say in the constitution that the "American people are one"?) "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
Hmm.... I was caught off guard with this, because I forgot what I wrote. I'll stand by it still, because I still believe in the words. No, I do not want this to happen again, however if our administration reacts through a cloud of revenge and anger and not justice and liberty we commit ourselves to the same path as always. It's easy for people to relate to our current path. Some are afraid of a newer path. A path we have started down. What path you say? Here's a URL that illustrates my point. http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?q=Y&a=tpc&s=50009562&f=34709834&m=4640913172&p=1 My argument centers around justice, yes. My argument centers around liberty yes. But I will not condone any attack made against those who are innocent of the situation. (Kabul is my primary focus here) We need to focus the campaign on terrorism. If we go about a widen attack including Kabul and those of you quote the words of Timothy McVeigh in that the civilians were only collateral damage, then we are as guilty of terrorism as these monsters. :rose: "I claim this planet in the name of Mars. Hmm? Isn't that lovely?" Marvin Martain.
