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  • L Lost User

    What's with your kids? Mine get straight into it and their half wog (Greek, Italian, Armenian, Syrian and Maltese), must be something to do with Tasmania. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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    Christian Graus
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    Must be an intelligence thing. Now the question is, is that environmental or genetic ? ;P Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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      To be honest, I don't think much of him myself. But you've got the Rev. Fred Nile, so we're even. But the fact remains that there are parts of Sydney the police & ambos will not go after dark. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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      Yeah but he is a bona fide Christian (he says so) and not an opportunistic tree hugger like Harradine (married his sister didn't he?). Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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        Must be an intelligence thing. Now the question is, is that environmental or genetic ? ;P Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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        I must agree with the high intelligence of the Vegemite eaters of the world. I would also say it's genetic and having a good Aussie surname. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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          Yeah but he is a bona fide Christian (he says so) and not an opportunistic tree hugger like Harradine (married his sister didn't he?). Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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          Christian Graus
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          You don't think Fred Nile is an opportunist ? I was first starting to attend church again when he ran for government and his office sent my pastor information packs to help him preach that I would go to hell unless I voted for him. I seem to recall getting a lot of flack for liking rock music ( with that 'Satanic beat that makes children kill themselves' ). Thanks God (literally) I got out of that place to somewhere with more interest in the Bible than politics and power plays. Fred Nile is a schmuck and no more a Christian than Axl Rose ( by your fruits shall you know them ). Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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            I must agree with the high intelligence of the Vegemite eaters of the world. I would also say it's genetic and having a good Aussie surname. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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            Christian Graus
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            That's right, isn't your surname the first name of a bushranger ? Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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              That's right, isn't your surname the first name of a bushranger ? Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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              I should be so lucky. Could be don't know. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                You don't think Fred Nile is an opportunist ? I was first starting to attend church again when he ran for government and his office sent my pastor information packs to help him preach that I would go to hell unless I voted for him. I seem to recall getting a lot of flack for liking rock music ( with that 'Satanic beat that makes children kill themselves' ). Thanks God (literally) I got out of that place to somewhere with more interest in the Bible than politics and power plays. Fred Nile is a schmuck and no more a Christian than Axl Rose ( by your fruits shall you know them ). Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                Aaggghhhh, your going straight to hell Christian Graus. Fred Nile is Great, Fred Nile is good, must vote for Fred Nile ... Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                  Aaggghhhh, your going straight to hell Christian Graus. Fred Nile is Great, Fred Nile is good, must vote for Fred Nile ... Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                  Christian Graus
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                  You get the notion. Pack of clowns. Give me Harradine over Nile any day. Better yet, take both :) Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                    You get the notion. Pack of clowns. Give me Harradine over Nile any day. Better yet, take both :) Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                    I think not, as Tassie was originally used to house the worst of the worst convicts I think it should get the privilige of having both Harradine and Nile. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                      Dunno what happened there, but it's boundless. I note the assumption in the lyric that immigrants are from the UK.... For a look at real Aussie culture, check out http://www.geocities.com/topaussieguide/. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                      Shane Hyde
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                      Great link Christian.... but in the Kingswood section... "The windows are extra wide so you can stick your fat arse out and moon people. " That is not Aussie at all.. it should be "The windows are extra wide so you can stick your fat arse out and chuck a brown-eye. " I did like.."VB sells so well in Australia that they haven't bothered to make new TV commercials since 1897. VB is so tops that if VB was your mate it would not fart in your car or sleaze onto your missus while you were away. VB is a top Aussie." :-D Shane

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                        I think not, as Tassie was originally used to house the worst of the worst convicts I think it should get the privilige of having both Harradine and Nile. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                        Christian Graus
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                        But it's clear that we've had our time, all the worst criminals now live in your neck of the woods. We kicked them out. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                          But it's clear that we've had our time, all the worst criminals now live in your neck of the woods. We kicked them out. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                          Kicked them out or they ran screaming on to the mainland? Outside of Boags and Cascade what has Tasmania ever done for us? Hey. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                            After talking to Michael here yesterday, I thought I'd dig up our anthem. It goes like this: Australians all let us rejoice, For we are young and free; We've golden soil and wealth for toil, Our home is girt by sea; Our land abounds in Nature's gifts Of beauty rich and rare; In history's page, let every stage Advance Australia fair! In joyful strains then let us sing, "Advance Australia fair!" When gallant Cook from Albion sail'd, To trace wide oceans o'er, True British courage bore him on, Till he landed on our shore. Then here he raised Old England's flag, The standard of the brave; With all her faults we love her still, "Brittannia rules the wave!" In joyful strains then let us sing "Advance Australia fair!" Beneath our radiant southern Cross, We'll toil with hearts and hands; To make this Commonwealth of ours Renowned of all the lands; For those who've come across the seas We've bounblockquoteess plains to share; With courage let us all combine To advance Australia fair. In joyful strains then let us sing "Advance Australia fair!" While other nations of the globe Behold us from afar, We'll rise to high renown and shine Like our glorious southern star; From England, Scotia, Erin's Isle, Who come our lot to share, Let all combine with heart and hand To advance Australia fair! In joyful strains then let us sing "Advance Australia fair!" Shou'd foreign foe e'er sight our coast, Or dare a foot to land, We'll rouse to arms like sires of yore To guard our native strand; Brittannia the shall surely know, Beyond wide ocean's roll, Her sons in fair Australia's land Still keep a British soul. In joyful strains the let us sing "Advance Australia fair!" No wonder we don't like singing it. Given our history, I think we should go with Walzing Matilda, a song about an itinerant who steals a sheep and gets shot for it: Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong Under the shade of a coolibah tree And he sang as he watched and waited 'til his billy boiled You'll come a-waltzing matilda with me Waltzing matilda, waltzing matilda You'll come a waltzing matilda with me And he sang as he watched and waited 'til his billy boiled You'll come a-waltzing matilda with me Down came a jumbuck to dri-ink at that billabong Up jumped the swagman and grabbed him with glee And he sang as he stuffed that jumbuck in his tucker-bag You'll come a-waltzing matilda with me Up rode the squatter, mou

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                            Christian. I think Advance Australia Fair is actually rather moving and something to be proud of. When I hear it sung by Aussies at an international Rugby match it fills the stadium and gives your boys a lot of courage and pride. At the very, very least you can read and understand your national anthem. Ours is written in FOUR languages, starting out with Xhosa (of which I know only one word), then Zulu (ditto), then Afrikaans (I know enough to ask for a beer) and then finallllyyy English. Not only that but it incorporates two very different songs. One calls for God Bless Africa (very Christian underpinnings as well which is wrong IMHO) and the other part talks of the might and beauty of our land and its settlers, the Voortrekkers (yes the same racist swine pigs blah blah I have heard it all). Maybe someone can fill me just why the general Aussie attitude towards Britian is so bad? Frankly how can you even diffirentiate between yourselves and the Brits? If it weren't for Cook you wouldn't be around. Yes I know the whole "down under is a dumping pit for the unwanted of Britian" but as someone on CP once said not ALL of Australia is descended from pick-axe-swinging prisoners. I can understand the Aboriginies being non-plussed with Britian (and you guys), just like 80% of South Africa is (add on to that British settlers are a minority in SA, mainly Dutch). But why the general Aussie? * Waltzing Matilda is a classic though. Pretty strange how many of the words (billabong, tucker-bag, billy, swagman) are so familiar to South Africans. Though jumbuck I got to say I have never heard. regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org

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                              Christian. I think Advance Australia Fair is actually rather moving and something to be proud of. When I hear it sung by Aussies at an international Rugby match it fills the stadium and gives your boys a lot of courage and pride. At the very, very least you can read and understand your national anthem. Ours is written in FOUR languages, starting out with Xhosa (of which I know only one word), then Zulu (ditto), then Afrikaans (I know enough to ask for a beer) and then finallllyyy English. Not only that but it incorporates two very different songs. One calls for God Bless Africa (very Christian underpinnings as well which is wrong IMHO) and the other part talks of the might and beauty of our land and its settlers, the Voortrekkers (yes the same racist swine pigs blah blah I have heard it all). Maybe someone can fill me just why the general Aussie attitude towards Britian is so bad? Frankly how can you even diffirentiate between yourselves and the Brits? If it weren't for Cook you wouldn't be around. Yes I know the whole "down under is a dumping pit for the unwanted of Britian" but as someone on CP once said not ALL of Australia is descended from pick-axe-swinging prisoners. I can understand the Aboriginies being non-plussed with Britian (and you guys), just like 80% of South Africa is (add on to that British settlers are a minority in SA, mainly Dutch). But why the general Aussie? * Waltzing Matilda is a classic though. Pretty strange how many of the words (billabong, tucker-bag, billy, swagman) are so familiar to South Africans. Though jumbuck I got to say I have never heard. regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org

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                              IMHO, most of the resentment stems from actions such as Galipolli. And Maralinga. Shane

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                                Christian. I think Advance Australia Fair is actually rather moving and something to be proud of. When I hear it sung by Aussies at an international Rugby match it fills the stadium and gives your boys a lot of courage and pride. At the very, very least you can read and understand your national anthem. Ours is written in FOUR languages, starting out with Xhosa (of which I know only one word), then Zulu (ditto), then Afrikaans (I know enough to ask for a beer) and then finallllyyy English. Not only that but it incorporates two very different songs. One calls for God Bless Africa (very Christian underpinnings as well which is wrong IMHO) and the other part talks of the might and beauty of our land and its settlers, the Voortrekkers (yes the same racist swine pigs blah blah I have heard it all). Maybe someone can fill me just why the general Aussie attitude towards Britian is so bad? Frankly how can you even diffirentiate between yourselves and the Brits? If it weren't for Cook you wouldn't be around. Yes I know the whole "down under is a dumping pit for the unwanted of Britian" but as someone on CP once said not ALL of Australia is descended from pick-axe-swinging prisoners. I can understand the Aboriginies being non-plussed with Britian (and you guys), just like 80% of South Africa is (add on to that British settlers are a minority in SA, mainly Dutch). But why the general Aussie? * Waltzing Matilda is a classic though. Pretty strange how many of the words (billabong, tucker-bag, billy, swagman) are so familiar to South Africans. Though jumbuck I got to say I have never heard. regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org

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                                Pretty much every war fought up until and I think including WWII the Poms sent the Aussie soldiers in to do the dangerous and dirty work while they sat round having scones and tea organising the next stuff up that would get hordes of Aussies killed. Read up on the Gallipoli campaign where British Intelligence fucked up and landed all the Aussies and Kiwis in the worst place. All the Turks sitting up on a hill shooting the shit out of us. It's all in the past but why give up on a perfectly good prejudice? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                  Christian. I think Advance Australia Fair is actually rather moving and something to be proud of. When I hear it sung by Aussies at an international Rugby match it fills the stadium and gives your boys a lot of courage and pride. At the very, very least you can read and understand your national anthem. Ours is written in FOUR languages, starting out with Xhosa (of which I know only one word), then Zulu (ditto), then Afrikaans (I know enough to ask for a beer) and then finallllyyy English. Not only that but it incorporates two very different songs. One calls for God Bless Africa (very Christian underpinnings as well which is wrong IMHO) and the other part talks of the might and beauty of our land and its settlers, the Voortrekkers (yes the same racist swine pigs blah blah I have heard it all). Maybe someone can fill me just why the general Aussie attitude towards Britian is so bad? Frankly how can you even diffirentiate between yourselves and the Brits? If it weren't for Cook you wouldn't be around. Yes I know the whole "down under is a dumping pit for the unwanted of Britian" but as someone on CP once said not ALL of Australia is descended from pick-axe-swinging prisoners. I can understand the Aboriginies being non-plussed with Britian (and you guys), just like 80% of South Africa is (add on to that British settlers are a minority in SA, mainly Dutch). But why the general Aussie? * Waltzing Matilda is a classic though. Pretty strange how many of the words (billabong, tucker-bag, billy, swagman) are so familiar to South Africans. Though jumbuck I got to say I have never heard. regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org

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                                  I guess I just don't get it. Don't get me wrong - Australia is the best bloody country in the world, bar none. I just wouldn't go singing about it, it just seems a bit nancy to me. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                                    This is Australia's addition to cuisine's of the world. The greatest thing known to man and especially good on toast for breakfast. Some wussy Australian's (Christian) and most of the rest of the world just don't have the balls to eat something as strong as this. Also it is made from the leftover goodness from the beer making process, good old Australian ingenuity, don't let anything go to waste. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                    The only thing I can say is...MARMITE!!! :-D Now that's sure to start a flame war (bl***y poms) :laugh: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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                                      Having tasted Dr. Pepper, that is probably a fair swap. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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                                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                      ROFL! :laugh: Personally, I can't stand either. And Marmite sucks too. ;P (Oops, now I've p****d off the Yanks, Aussies and Brits. Time to emigrate to Canada...) :-D Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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                                        Pretty much every war fought up until and I think including WWII the Poms sent the Aussie soldiers in to do the dangerous and dirty work while they sat round having scones and tea organising the next stuff up that would get hordes of Aussies killed. Read up on the Gallipoli campaign where British Intelligence fucked up and landed all the Aussies and Kiwis in the worst place. All the Turks sitting up on a hill shooting the shit out of us. It's all in the past but why give up on a perfectly good prejudice? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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                                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                        That sounds about right for the UK until fairly recently (post-WW II). Ever read about the massacres perpetrated by the British Army in India and Ireland? :(( We have a lot to apologise to the world for. I for one consider myself to be a citizen of the world, not the UK. :) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
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                                          The only thing I can say is...MARMITE!!! :-D Now that's sure to start a flame war (bl***y poms) :laugh: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
                                          (andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
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                                          Isn't Marmite collected from the back end of dogs? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone

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