National Anthems
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Christian. I think Advance Australia Fair is actually rather moving and something to be proud of. When I hear it sung by Aussies at an international Rugby match it fills the stadium and gives your boys a lot of courage and pride. At the very, very least you can read and understand your national anthem. Ours is written in FOUR languages, starting out with Xhosa (of which I know only one word), then Zulu (ditto), then Afrikaans (I know enough to ask for a beer) and then finallllyyy English. Not only that but it incorporates two very different songs. One calls for God Bless Africa (very Christian underpinnings as well which is wrong IMHO) and the other part talks of the might and beauty of our land and its settlers, the Voortrekkers (yes the same racist swine pigs blah blah I have heard it all). Maybe someone can fill me just why the general Aussie attitude towards Britian is so bad? Frankly how can you even diffirentiate between yourselves and the Brits? If it weren't for Cook you wouldn't be around. Yes I know the whole "down under is a dumping pit for the unwanted of Britian" but as someone on CP once said not ALL of Australia is descended from pick-axe-swinging prisoners. I can understand the Aboriginies being non-plussed with Britian (and you guys), just like 80% of South Africa is (add on to that British settlers are a minority in SA, mainly Dutch). But why the general Aussie? * Waltzing Matilda is a classic though. Pretty strange how many of the words (billabong, tucker-bag, billy, swagman) are so familiar to South Africans. Though jumbuck I got to say I have never heard. regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org
IMHO, most of the resentment stems from actions such as Galipolli. And Maralinga. Shane
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Christian. I think Advance Australia Fair is actually rather moving and something to be proud of. When I hear it sung by Aussies at an international Rugby match it fills the stadium and gives your boys a lot of courage and pride. At the very, very least you can read and understand your national anthem. Ours is written in FOUR languages, starting out with Xhosa (of which I know only one word), then Zulu (ditto), then Afrikaans (I know enough to ask for a beer) and then finallllyyy English. Not only that but it incorporates two very different songs. One calls for God Bless Africa (very Christian underpinnings as well which is wrong IMHO) and the other part talks of the might and beauty of our land and its settlers, the Voortrekkers (yes the same racist swine pigs blah blah I have heard it all). Maybe someone can fill me just why the general Aussie attitude towards Britian is so bad? Frankly how can you even diffirentiate between yourselves and the Brits? If it weren't for Cook you wouldn't be around. Yes I know the whole "down under is a dumping pit for the unwanted of Britian" but as someone on CP once said not ALL of Australia is descended from pick-axe-swinging prisoners. I can understand the Aboriginies being non-plussed with Britian (and you guys), just like 80% of South Africa is (add on to that British settlers are a minority in SA, mainly Dutch). But why the general Aussie? * Waltzing Matilda is a classic though. Pretty strange how many of the words (billabong, tucker-bag, billy, swagman) are so familiar to South Africans. Though jumbuck I got to say I have never heard. regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org
Pretty much every war fought up until and I think including WWII the Poms sent the Aussie soldiers in to do the dangerous and dirty work while they sat round having scones and tea organising the next stuff up that would get hordes of Aussies killed. Read up on the Gallipoli campaign where British Intelligence fucked up and landed all the Aussies and Kiwis in the worst place. All the Turks sitting up on a hill shooting the shit out of us. It's all in the past but why give up on a perfectly good prejudice? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Christian. I think Advance Australia Fair is actually rather moving and something to be proud of. When I hear it sung by Aussies at an international Rugby match it fills the stadium and gives your boys a lot of courage and pride. At the very, very least you can read and understand your national anthem. Ours is written in FOUR languages, starting out with Xhosa (of which I know only one word), then Zulu (ditto), then Afrikaans (I know enough to ask for a beer) and then finallllyyy English. Not only that but it incorporates two very different songs. One calls for God Bless Africa (very Christian underpinnings as well which is wrong IMHO) and the other part talks of the might and beauty of our land and its settlers, the Voortrekkers (yes the same racist swine pigs blah blah I have heard it all). Maybe someone can fill me just why the general Aussie attitude towards Britian is so bad? Frankly how can you even diffirentiate between yourselves and the Brits? If it weren't for Cook you wouldn't be around. Yes I know the whole "down under is a dumping pit for the unwanted of Britian" but as someone on CP once said not ALL of Australia is descended from pick-axe-swinging prisoners. I can understand the Aboriginies being non-plussed with Britian (and you guys), just like 80% of South Africa is (add on to that British settlers are a minority in SA, mainly Dutch). But why the general Aussie? * Waltzing Matilda is a classic though. Pretty strange how many of the words (billabong, tucker-bag, billy, swagman) are so familiar to South Africans. Though jumbuck I got to say I have never heard. regards, Paul Watson Cape Town, South Africa e: paulmwatson@email.com w: vergen.org
I guess I just don't get it. Don't get me wrong - Australia is the best bloody country in the world, bar none. I just wouldn't go singing about it, it just seems a bit nancy to me. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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This is Australia's addition to cuisine's of the world. The greatest thing known to man and especially good on toast for breakfast. Some wussy Australian's (Christian) and most of the rest of the world just don't have the balls to eat something as strong as this. Also it is made from the leftover goodness from the beer making process, good old Australian ingenuity, don't let anything go to waste. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
The only thing I can say is...MARMITE!!! :-D Now that's sure to start a flame war (bl***y poms) :laugh: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
(andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
http://www.resorg.co.uk"Be yourself, not what others want you to be."
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Having tasted Dr. Pepper, that is probably a fair swap. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
ROFL! :laugh: Personally, I can't stand either. And Marmite sucks too. ;P (Oops, now I've p****d off the Yanks, Aussies and Brits. Time to emigrate to Canada...) :-D Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
(andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
http://www.resorg.co.uk"Be yourself, not what others want you to be."
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Pretty much every war fought up until and I think including WWII the Poms sent the Aussie soldiers in to do the dangerous and dirty work while they sat round having scones and tea organising the next stuff up that would get hordes of Aussies killed. Read up on the Gallipoli campaign where British Intelligence fucked up and landed all the Aussies and Kiwis in the worst place. All the Turks sitting up on a hill shooting the shit out of us. It's all in the past but why give up on a perfectly good prejudice? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
That sounds about right for the UK until fairly recently (post-WW II). Ever read about the massacres perpetrated by the British Army in India and Ireland? :(( We have a lot to apologise to the world for. I for one consider myself to be a citizen of the world, not the UK. :) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
(andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
http://www.resorg.co.uk"Be yourself, not what others want you to be."
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The only thing I can say is...MARMITE!!! :-D Now that's sure to start a flame war (bl***y poms) :laugh: Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
(andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
http://www.resorg.co.uk"Be yourself, not what others want you to be."
Isn't Marmite collected from the back end of dogs? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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I guess I just don't get it. Don't get me wrong - Australia is the best bloody country in the world, bar none. I just wouldn't go singing about it, it just seems a bit nancy to me. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
Christian Nancy Graus, that's your full name isn't it? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Christian Nancy Graus, that's your full name isn't it? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Depends on who you ask. From memory that was also the opinion of the last person I beat the hell out of... ;P Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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Depends on who you ask. From memory that was also the opinion of the last person I beat the hell out of... ;P Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
You'll have to wait to see if we accept you back into Sydney to try. Unless someone pays to fly me down to Tassie as Official Beer Tester at Boags and/or Cascade you won't see me down in the Antarctic. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Having tasted Dr. Pepper, that is probably a fair swap. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
I like it. But that's just me. * Running off to find some Vegemite * Jon Sagara Sagara Software
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Isn't Marmite collected from the back end of dogs? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
Quite possibly (I can't stand the stuff), but if that's the case, do they collect Vegemite from the back end of kangeroos? ;P (if that doesn't start a flame war, I'm going to give up trying...:rolleyes: ) Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
(andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
http://www.resorg.co.uk"Be yourself, not what others want you to be."
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You'll have to wait to see if we accept you back into Sydney to try. Unless someone pays to fly me down to Tassie as Official Beer Tester at Boags and/or Cascade you won't see me down in the Antarctic. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
*grin* touche. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.