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    I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. Now if you really wanted to find out the pro's and con's of something, wouldn't the most valuable opinions come from those that did not pick one of the extreme choices? Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Should there only be two choices "Extreme dislike" -> "Overjoyed with ecstacy"? Are messages posted here that garner a higher than average number of non-extreme votes inherently more interesting? Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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    John Cardinal wrote: I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. :laugh: :laugh: Human nature I guess. John Cardinal wrote: Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? Because if there wasn't a 3, then no-one would ever use the 2 or the 4! :rolleyes: I do use 2 and 4, but not as often as 1 and 5. But if I think something's a 3, it's highly unlikely I'll be interested in voting on it. But I do wish CP would have a 1-8 voting system, though.

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      I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. Now if you really wanted to find out the pro's and con's of something, wouldn't the most valuable opinions come from those that did not pick one of the extreme choices? Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Should there only be two choices "Extreme dislike" -> "Overjoyed with ecstacy"? Are messages posted here that garner a higher than average number of non-extreme votes inherently more interesting? Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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      John Cardinal wrote: Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Ratings are pointless if they have more than one choice? I would think the opposite: that ratings are pointless if they ONLY have one choice. Second, I have to laugh at the fact that this message has one vote: a "3". ------------------------------------------ The ousted but stubbornly non-dead leader reportedly released an audiotape this weekend, ending by calling on Iraqis to, quote, "resist the occupation in any way you can, from writing on walls, to boycotting, to demonstrating and taking up arms." adding, "you know, pretty much anything I used to kill you for."

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        John Cardinal wrote: Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Ratings are pointless if they have more than one choice? I would think the opposite: that ratings are pointless if they ONLY have one choice. Second, I have to laugh at the fact that this message has one vote: a "3". ------------------------------------------ The ousted but stubbornly non-dead leader reportedly released an audiotape this weekend, ending by calling on Iraqis to, quote, "resist the occupation in any way you can, from writing on walls, to boycotting, to demonstrating and taking up arms." adding, "you know, pretty much anything I used to kill you for."

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        Brit wrote: Second, I have to laugh at the fact that this message has one vote - a "3". :laugh: ROTFL! :laugh: Now everyone's voting it a 3!

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        • M Member 96

          I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. Now if you really wanted to find out the pro's and con's of something, wouldn't the most valuable opinions come from those that did not pick one of the extreme choices? Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Should there only be two choices "Extreme dislike" -> "Overjoyed with ecstacy"? Are messages posted here that garner a higher than average number of non-extreme votes inherently more interesting? Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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          It's just expression of an overly binary world view. The thrid has become invisible.


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          • M Member 96

            I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. Now if you really wanted to find out the pro's and con's of something, wouldn't the most valuable opinions come from those that did not pick one of the extreme choices? Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Should there only be two choices "Extreme dislike" -> "Overjoyed with ecstacy"? Are messages posted here that garner a higher than average number of non-extreme votes inherently more interesting? Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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            You got my 3 :laugh::laugh:


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              You got my 3 :laugh::laugh:


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              Daniel Turini
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              You too :)

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              • M Member 96

                I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. Now if you really wanted to find out the pro's and con's of something, wouldn't the most valuable opinions come from those that did not pick one of the extreme choices? Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Should there only be two choices "Extreme dislike" -> "Overjoyed with ecstacy"? Are messages posted here that garner a higher than average number of non-extreme votes inherently more interesting? Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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                Daniel Turini
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                I think it's a color thing: 5-voted turns red. 1-voted turns gray. 3-voted turns what? green? blue?

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                  John Cardinal wrote: Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Ratings are pointless if they have more than one choice? I would think the opposite: that ratings are pointless if they ONLY have one choice. Second, I have to laugh at the fact that this message has one vote: a "3". ------------------------------------------ The ousted but stubbornly non-dead leader reportedly released an audiotape this weekend, ending by calling on Iraqis to, quote, "resist the occupation in any way you can, from writing on walls, to boycotting, to demonstrating and taking up arms." adding, "you know, pretty much anything I used to kill you for."

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                  Brit wrote: Second, I have to laugh at the fact that this message has one vote: a "3". Now, it has 7. Average: 3.

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                    You too :)

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                    Rock on! My very own 3 *sniff* :(( I thought I would never get one :laugh: --Sig-- Adam Wimsatt www.liquidneon.com

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                      I think it's a color thing: 5-voted turns red. 1-voted turns gray. 3-voted turns what? green? blue?

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                      Daniel Turini wrote: 3-voted turns what? green? blue? 3 vote turns - black, obviously indicating an insightful and pithy post. ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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                        Rock on! My very own 3 *sniff* :(( I thought I would never get one :laugh: --Sig-- Adam Wimsatt www.liquidneon.com

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                        Barbarians!;) ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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                        • M Member 96

                          I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. Now if you really wanted to find out the pro's and con's of something, wouldn't the most valuable opinions come from those that did not pick one of the extreme choices? Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Should there only be two choices "Extreme dislike" -> "Overjoyed with ecstacy"? Are messages posted here that garner a higher than average number of non-extreme votes inherently more interesting? Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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                          John M Drescher
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                          I voted 3 for this one for no reason other than to give you a 3... John

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                          • M Member 96

                            I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. Now if you really wanted to find out the pro's and con's of something, wouldn't the most valuable opinions come from those that did not pick one of the extreme choices? Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Should there only be two choices "Extreme dislike" -> "Overjoyed with ecstacy"? Are messages posted here that garner a higher than average number of non-extreme votes inherently more interesting? Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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                            Yeah I have never wondered at the wisdom of a 3 vote. While 3 is a nice number I can see no use for it aparrt from causing an equilibrium feeect in the voting and devaluing others votes. Maybe CP should give an unexpected response when a 3 is used. Like "doh you gave a tree three, doh" Regardz Colin J Davies

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                              John Cardinal wrote: I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. :laugh: :laugh: Human nature I guess. John Cardinal wrote: Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? Because if there wasn't a 3, then no-one would ever use the 2 or the 4! :rolleyes: I do use 2 and 4, but not as often as 1 and 5. But if I think something's a 3, it's highly unlikely I'll be interested in voting on it. But I do wish CP would have a 1-8 voting system, though.

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                              John M Drescher
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                              jdunlap wrote: I do use 2 and 4, but not as often as 1 and 5. But if I think something's a 3, it's highly unlikely I'll be interested in voting on it. I will vote a 3 when on something that I think is ok but not great only when others have already voted on it and the voting is close to 1 or 5.. [EDIT] I just thought of something... If I take the time to download and test an article I will always vote on it. And my vote could be any of the 5 choices depending on how I like the article. [/EDIT] John

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                              • M Member 96

                                I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. Now if you really wanted to find out the pro's and con's of something, wouldn't the most valuable opinions come from those that did not pick one of the extreme choices? Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Should there only be two choices "Extreme dislike" -> "Overjoyed with ecstacy"? Are messages posted here that garner a higher than average number of non-extreme votes inherently more interesting? Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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                                Why is it Homeland Security has that silly 5 level system considering how little they actually know. It just confuses things. For the forseeable future, we're never going to get below a 3 so why two levels down there? And unless they reserve a 5 for "terrorists have actually hijacked a plane and are flying it around", why distingish between 4 and 5? Calling a 4 just makes them look foolish after a while. I think there should at most be 3 levels. 1. World Peace and Harmony (BFL) 2. Keep and eye out because someone, somewhere wants to hurt you. 3. Insert head between knees and prepare to kiss ass good-by.

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                                  Why is it Homeland Security has that silly 5 level system considering how little they actually know. It just confuses things. For the forseeable future, we're never going to get below a 3 so why two levels down there? And unless they reserve a 5 for "terrorists have actually hijacked a plane and are flying it around", why distingish between 4 and 5? Calling a 4 just makes them look foolish after a while. I think there should at most be 3 levels. 1. World Peace and Harmony (BFL) 2. Keep and eye out because someone, somewhere wants to hurt you. 3. Insert head between knees and prepare to kiss ass good-by.

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                                  fearmongering.


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                                  • M Member 96

                                    I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. Now if you really wanted to find out the pro's and con's of something, wouldn't the most valuable opinions come from those that did not pick one of the extreme choices? Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Should there only be two choices "Extreme dislike" -> "Overjoyed with ecstacy"? Are messages posted here that garner a higher than average number of non-extreme votes inherently more interesting? Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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                                    Chris Losinger
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                                    i use a three for comments that i think are basically neutral, when it's been pushed toward one extreme or the other. CheeseWeasle

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                                    • M Member 96

                                      I was just over at MSDN and noticing the ratings at the bottom of articles, seems as though the majority of people pick the highest or lowest rating. Seems the same thing here for rating posts in the forum etc. Now if you really wanted to find out the pro's and con's of something, wouldn't the most valuable opinions come from those that did not pick one of the extreme choices? Are ratings basically pointless if they have more than one choice? Should there only be two choices "Extreme dislike" -> "Overjoyed with ecstacy"? Are messages posted here that garner a higher than average number of non-extreme votes inherently more interesting? Perhaps most mystifying of all: Why is there a "3" option when rating messages on the forums at CP? ------------ Tomorrow is the same day as today was yesterday.

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                                      A vote system that offered a single choice would be the most efficient, eh.

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