How long have you been in your current job?
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Have been in my current job for 10 months but I'm changing next week because some jerks from a consultant company told my actual boss to change applications to Java because has more future than .NET and he believed them. Talking about that I'd like to know your opinion about consultant companies (not trying to offend anyone who might work as a consultant) because my experience with them has been horrible. 4 months ago I was talking with two consultants (I must admit they were'nt programmers) and suggested us to change to an easier programming language to reduce costs (and YES, they suggested VB) so I'm still laughing when I remember that... Well, the fact is that now we're changing to Java and this is why I'm leaving to another company. ORi
A consultant is someone who borrows your clock to tell you what time is it. He is expensive, can't read a clock, tell you that you need a bigger clock, then you buy it. When you buy it, the consultant still can't tell what time is it, so he lies. When things go wrong, he says that the cause is: "the clock reading process should be decentralized, gaining accuracy" Now, you have 5 different clock readings, and the average time is almost right. So, you think: "Now I know what time is it!" Then, he charges you for the consulting service and you pay, because "Now I know what time is it!". And he takes with him the older clock you forgot. :rolleyes: Now you can think: is a consultant necessarily a bad thing ? Now you know what time is it, don't you ? Ok, you could have learned clock reading, but you are too lazy ("I have focus in my business") to learn it, so I think it's why a consultant exists. And that is why I say my firm is a software development company, not a consultant company. Furor fit laesa saepius patientia
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8 years. Well, I have a small software development firm (15 developers) and there are people here with 3 years. Here we had people who worked from 3 hours (the guy just gone, saying "you work with too complicated things!") to 3 years. It seems to me, at least in Brazil, that medium time in jobs - MTJ - is proportional to experience - XP - (note that experience is different from time working - if you do nothing for 10 years, you have almost zero experience). MTJ = XP/2 :suss: Furor fit laesa saepius patientia
>Here we had people who worked from 3 hours (the guy just gone, saying "you >work with too complicated things!") Reminds me of a guy who came to work at one of my previous places of employment. He was given some work to and one of our guys gave him a brief overview of our code and ways of working. The new guy sat there taking it all in and seemed okay. He went out for lunch and never came back. He was never heard from again. Michael :-)
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Just wondering, how long have you been in your current job? It looks like (to me) that a lot of developers change their jobs kinda often. I have been working the same place for 1.5 years now, but starts in a new job next month :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
18 months. Sounds like it's time I change... Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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A consultant is someone who borrows your clock to tell you what time is it. He is expensive, can't read a clock, tell you that you need a bigger clock, then you buy it. When you buy it, the consultant still can't tell what time is it, so he lies. When things go wrong, he says that the cause is: "the clock reading process should be decentralized, gaining accuracy" Now, you have 5 different clock readings, and the average time is almost right. So, you think: "Now I know what time is it!" Then, he charges you for the consulting service and you pay, because "Now I know what time is it!". And he takes with him the older clock you forgot. :rolleyes: Now you can think: is a consultant necessarily a bad thing ? Now you know what time is it, don't you ? Ok, you could have learned clock reading, but you are too lazy ("I have focus in my business") to learn it, so I think it's why a consultant exists. And that is why I say my firm is a software development company, not a consultant company. Furor fit laesa saepius patientia
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Just wondering, how long have you been in your current job? It looks like (to me) that a lot of developers change their jobs kinda often. I have been working the same place for 1.5 years now, but starts in a new job next month :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I have only ever had thre jobs. Pegasystems 2 years 8 months and counting CSC 3 years 1 month Commonwealth Bank 8 years 10 month Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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18 months. Sounds like it's time I change... Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
18 months. Sounds like it's time I change... I thought you had the "only C++ programming job in Hobart" ;P Did I remember/spell the "Hobart" part correctly? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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Just wondering, how long have you been in your current job? It looks like (to me) that a lot of developers change their jobs kinda often. I have been working the same place for 1.5 years now, but starts in a new job next month :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
I've been here toooooooooo long :-D 10 years 7 months
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18 months. Sounds like it's time I change... I thought you had the "only C++ programming job in Hobart" ;P Did I remember/spell the "Hobart" part correctly? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Yeah, I'm pretty much resigned to moving to Melbourne or Sydney one of these days in order to find work. Yes, you spelled it correctly. ;) Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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Just wondering, how long have you been in your current job? It looks like (to me) that a lot of developers change their jobs kinda often. I have been working the same place for 1.5 years now, but starts in a new job next month :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Been working in my current job for about a year and a half. Before that was my first job of just a year (short on professional experience but I have been around the stuff since I was 13). In the last year and a half it has not been the changing of actual companies but changing from: Junior Developer to Senior Developer to Junior Analyst to Senior Analyst. I also did some graphic design inbetween it all when the Design department was pressed for time. Heck I now also get to do a bit of sales work when the potential client is a bunch of techies. Put it this way, my current job is my last job in the computer world. This baby is taking me all the way to the top (and if it doesn't I am never going to touch another computer in my life) :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
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6 months now . Before that was with the same company for 3.5 years. Another thing - What do you guys do when your job isn't interesting & is kind of routine ? Also how do you guys learn new things say STL - do you read up a book, work on a hobby project etc
> What do you guys do when your job isn't interesting & is kind of routine ? Well that has not happened for quite awhile (I have my finger in all the pies so if one area gets a bit dull I go play with another area that is hopping ;) ) but if I do have spare time then I do a search on Google.com for "latest craze sweeping the internet development world" :-D and whatever that brings up I code an ad-hoc project to see what it does and how it works. > Also how do you guys learn new things say STL ST what? lol j/k, I know OF it but not ABOUT it. When something new comes along I find the best thing to do is get stuck in, read the introduction of the technology and start coding. Learn as you go along. Then if you want to seriously optimise the new tech then I find a good book on the subject and use it more as a reference or as a "damn, I am stuck, how do I do that?" source. So hobby project is my answer. (books are great to read if they are fiction, otherwise give me the index and the syntax use please) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
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Been working in my current job for about a year and a half. Before that was my first job of just a year (short on professional experience but I have been around the stuff since I was 13). In the last year and a half it has not been the changing of actual companies but changing from: Junior Developer to Senior Developer to Junior Analyst to Senior Analyst. I also did some graphic design inbetween it all when the Design department was pressed for time. Heck I now also get to do a bit of sales work when the potential client is a bunch of techies. Put it this way, my current job is my last job in the computer world. This baby is taking me all the way to the top (and if it doesn't I am never going to touch another computer in my life) :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
How many Shiny Rocks a week does it pay? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
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Just wondering, how long have you been in your current job? It looks like (to me) that a lot of developers change their jobs kinda often. I have been working the same place for 1.5 years now, but starts in a new job next month :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
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4 years and 2 months. Not the same title though. The title gets longer and the responsibilities get heavier. And this poor soul just loves it
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How many Shiny Rocks a week does it pay? Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
It is not the shiny rocks I cherish most but how my contribution to society and it's poor starving children help..*choke, cough, gurgle* oh sorry, wrong pageant... :-O I'd tell you but then I would have to beat you to death with one of my animal teeth, or the wet end of this here leaf that I was going to use to buy my supper with. :-D and it was my favourite night; bangers and mash with a side helping of mushy peas. It is a small company, we are quite new and right now it is at the "draw what you need to live, the rest we put back into the company" stage. We have lots of shiny rocks but they are all banked in the Shiny Mountain account, not my Lonely Pebble account. I started it with a couple of colleagues and I have two words to say: Stress, phuket. (tm Michael Martin). :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
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Just wondering, how long have you been in your current job? It looks like (to me) that a lot of developers change their jobs kinda often. I have been working the same place for 1.5 years now, but starts in a new job next month :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
5 years for me. Lee
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Just wondering, how long have you been in your current job? It looks like (to me) that a lot of developers change their jobs kinda often. I have been working the same place for 1.5 years now, but starts in a new job next month :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Started C++ programming for a company at 17, still in the same company and I am 21. So it's four years... and another 3 years left on the contract with my company. Since 17 I have learned more about programming every day and still do till today. I remained what wanted: C++ programmer. Of course, every year I have more responsibilities and a bigger wage :) I get the feeling that I will be here for a while longer... I like it. If I want to learn something new, I log onto amazon.com and get a list of ISBNs of books related to the subject. I then send them to Angelica upstairs (sales department) and she orders them. When they arrive I read them, try them out and learn. Nice thing is that my company buys the books for me :) Free education! eheh. Jeremy. :-O Hey man! Taliban! Tali me banana!
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Just wondering, how long have you been in your current job? It looks like (to me) that a lot of developers change their jobs kinda often. I have been working the same place for 1.5 years now, but starts in a new job next month :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Just under 3 years. Jon Sagara Sagara Software