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  • G Glenn Dawson

    Salt the ground, tarp, and xeriscape it!;)

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    Roger Wright
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    They'd probably like it. One of the more noxious native plants is called Salt Cedar, a scruffy, shrubby so-called tree that thrives on the high salt levels in the soil here. I'd torch them, but the city has declared propane yard torches illegal.

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      I need a good herbicide. I knocked down the weeds two weeks ago to ground level, but last week's brief rain has them back, some over 18" tall! It's 10AM, 42C, and I'm dying out there swinging my electric scythe back over ground I just covered. I swear that these local weeds are from another planet. I've sprayed them with Roundup and Spectracide - they laugh at me and grow another 6" overnight. I've tried Triox (guaranteed to kill everything for one year) - they wilt and come back in a month. All of these cost $$ - Triox alone is $10/qt and covers 20 sf - and I have many hundreds of square feet to kill. Any recommendations? I need something effective, cheap, and environmentally friendly enough not to kill off the neighbor's buffalo herd. And no, I don't think I can get any Agent Orange at the Army Surplus store. Help!!

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      Jim Crafton
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      Agent Orange... :) barring that a napalm might work wonders... ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)!

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      • R Roger Wright

        Hmmm. I could always paint it green, I guess. A couple of pink flamingos, a little tacky statuary... Yeah, I can see that. X|

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        Roger Wright wrote: pink flamingos :laugh: I wasn't serious


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        • R Roger Wright

          I need a good herbicide. I knocked down the weeds two weeks ago to ground level, but last week's brief rain has them back, some over 18" tall! It's 10AM, 42C, and I'm dying out there swinging my electric scythe back over ground I just covered. I swear that these local weeds are from another planet. I've sprayed them with Roundup and Spectracide - they laugh at me and grow another 6" overnight. I've tried Triox (guaranteed to kill everything for one year) - they wilt and come back in a month. All of these cost $$ - Triox alone is $10/qt and covers 20 sf - and I have many hundreds of square feet to kill. Any recommendations? I need something effective, cheap, and environmentally friendly enough not to kill off the neighbor's buffalo herd. And no, I don't think I can get any Agent Orange at the Army Surplus store. Help!!

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          ColinDavies
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          I think your weeds are a root based problem. :-) Thus killing the herbage will not effect them a lot and depending on your soil type the herbacides are neutralized quickly on contact with the soil. The time of day that you spray the weeds is "EXTREMLY Important" for a variety of reasons, early morning and late evenings when the wind is low, and humidity high. Arizona probably isn't good on the humidity bit so you will need to water the weeds a few hours before. The jist is the weeds need to transport the poison for you from the receptive leaves and into the roots. It sounds like the poison has never got that far, but the weeds have managed to withdraw their nutrients quickly to the roots in defence, which allows them to have the quick regrowth. The other way, is to dig up the soil and sift it for the roots. This works really well but if unmechanized is a lot of work. Regardz Colin J Davies

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            I think your weeds are a root based problem. :-) Thus killing the herbage will not effect them a lot and depending on your soil type the herbacides are neutralized quickly on contact with the soil. The time of day that you spray the weeds is "EXTREMLY Important" for a variety of reasons, early morning and late evenings when the wind is low, and humidity high. Arizona probably isn't good on the humidity bit so you will need to water the weeds a few hours before. The jist is the weeds need to transport the poison for you from the receptive leaves and into the roots. It sounds like the poison has never got that far, but the weeds have managed to withdraw their nutrients quickly to the roots in defence, which allows them to have the quick regrowth. The other way, is to dig up the soil and sift it for the roots. This works really well but if unmechanized is a lot of work. Regardz Colin J Davies

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            Roger Wright
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            Good thoughts... I think the real solution in the long term is probably to rent a roto-tiller and destroy the whole yard, while working a truckload of manure into the soil to give it some organic content, then to plant weed-resistant lawn and ground covers. Unfortunately a project like that takes $$$$. Maybe I can import some locusts...

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            • R Roger Wright

              I need a good herbicide. I knocked down the weeds two weeks ago to ground level, but last week's brief rain has them back, some over 18" tall! It's 10AM, 42C, and I'm dying out there swinging my electric scythe back over ground I just covered. I swear that these local weeds are from another planet. I've sprayed them with Roundup and Spectracide - they laugh at me and grow another 6" overnight. I've tried Triox (guaranteed to kill everything for one year) - they wilt and come back in a month. All of these cost $$ - Triox alone is $10/qt and covers 20 sf - and I have many hundreds of square feet to kill. Any recommendations? I need something effective, cheap, and environmentally friendly enough not to kill off the neighbor's buffalo herd. And no, I don't think I can get any Agent Orange at the Army Surplus store. Help!!

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              Daniel Turini
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              Roger Wright wrote: And no, I don't think I can get any Agent Orange at the Army Surplus store. Help!! Damn! You got me :) Now, the only thing I can suggest is fire.

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              • R Roger Wright

                I need a good herbicide. I knocked down the weeds two weeks ago to ground level, but last week's brief rain has them back, some over 18" tall! It's 10AM, 42C, and I'm dying out there swinging my electric scythe back over ground I just covered. I swear that these local weeds are from another planet. I've sprayed them with Roundup and Spectracide - they laugh at me and grow another 6" overnight. I've tried Triox (guaranteed to kill everything for one year) - they wilt and come back in a month. All of these cost $$ - Triox alone is $10/qt and covers 20 sf - and I have many hundreds of square feet to kill. Any recommendations? I need something effective, cheap, and environmentally friendly enough not to kill off the neighbor's buffalo herd. And no, I don't think I can get any Agent Orange at the Army Surplus store. Help!!

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                I hear the russians have a few surplpus nuclear weapons.... Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                  I hear the russians have a few surplpus nuclear weapons.... Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                  antoine orchus tech
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                  There is no magical solutions. The roots are the way to them. Either pull them off manually -and completely ;-)- or follow the advice on the poison posted above. Or, another inventive way, my kinda way, would be to get the scouts or a bunch of kids to do it for peanuts. Viva el cheapo labor! This by our hands that dream, "I shall find a way or make one!" great quote heh? ;)

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                    I hear the russians have a few surplpus nuclear weapons.... Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                    Roger Wright
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                    Trollslayer wrote: the russians have a few surplpus nuclear weapons That might work, but I have my doubts. The weeds here are fairly well adapted to heat. I asked Paul W this morning to guess what the temp might be today, given that it was 32 then (7AM) - he logically guessed 38, while I surmised that it would probably reach 45. I guessed wrong - 47 now. I think the plants are really a semi-evolved form of asbestos here.

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      I need a good herbicide. I knocked down the weeds two weeks ago to ground level, but last week's brief rain has them back, some over 18" tall! It's 10AM, 42C, and I'm dying out there swinging my electric scythe back over ground I just covered. I swear that these local weeds are from another planet. I've sprayed them with Roundup and Spectracide - they laugh at me and grow another 6" overnight. I've tried Triox (guaranteed to kill everything for one year) - they wilt and come back in a month. All of these cost $$ - Triox alone is $10/qt and covers 20 sf - and I have many hundreds of square feet to kill. Any recommendations? I need something effective, cheap, and environmentally friendly enough not to kill off the neighbor's buffalo herd. And no, I don't think I can get any Agent Orange at the Army Surplus store. Help!!

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                      Gary Kirkham
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                      Try some Crossbow. If you didn't care about the environment, used motor oil works. Before anyone heats up the flame throwers, I am kidding about the motor oil suggestion...it does work, however. If you have any onions you need to kill, then 2,4-D works on those. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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                        Try some Crossbow. If you didn't care about the environment, used motor oil works. Before anyone heats up the flame throwers, I am kidding about the motor oil suggestion...it does work, however. If you have any onions you need to kill, then 2,4-D works on those. Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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                        Roger Wright
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                        I do recall from childhood watching my Dad use a bunch of 2,4 Dichlorophenoxyacetic Acid[^] around the yard to control broadleaf weeds without damaging grasses such as rye or bermuda. I haven't seen it in years, however. It was a great product, short half-life, low animal toxicity, no known carcinogenic effects. I'll have to have another look at the nursery. Thanks for the idea!:)

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                          I need a good herbicide. I knocked down the weeds two weeks ago to ground level, but last week's brief rain has them back, some over 18" tall! It's 10AM, 42C, and I'm dying out there swinging my electric scythe back over ground I just covered. I swear that these local weeds are from another planet. I've sprayed them with Roundup and Spectracide - they laugh at me and grow another 6" overnight. I've tried Triox (guaranteed to kill everything for one year) - they wilt and come back in a month. All of these cost $$ - Triox alone is $10/qt and covers 20 sf - and I have many hundreds of square feet to kill. Any recommendations? I need something effective, cheap, and environmentally friendly enough not to kill off the neighbor's buffalo herd. And no, I don't think I can get any Agent Orange at the Army Surplus store. Help!!

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                          Paul Watson
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                          I am with Stan, if the weeds are pretty (which many are) then kill the bouganvillia, let the weeds grow and claim everyone else is wrong. When the YAPs (YArd Police) complain open your gate, usher them in, sit on your porch with a beer and wave them on to try and get rid of your mutated super weeds.

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