Chris's wealth :)
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With the value of the Australian peso being what it is your debt is slightly greater than mine, but try this on for size. Car is leased (before tax including running costs), live with my in-laws and continually go backwards from a financial point of view every month. This has been going on for 5 years, left my first job with a very large payout. Paid off debt and then got back into it, sold house, paid off debt got back into it. Left second job moderate pay out paid off some debt. My third job (current) is paying me nearly 3 times what my first was when I left and we still spend more. This is with a wife and two kids who are dependant. It's tragic that as a household (can't think of better term) this keeps happening, but until 'we' see what is going on it won't change. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
I know where you're coming from, I really do. The sad thing is that so many people are stuck in this position. Something, somewhere is very wrong with our society. That's my opinion anyway. ;P Andy Metcalfe - Sonardyne International Ltd
(andy.metcalfe@lineone.net)
http://www.resorg.co.uk"Be yourself, not what others want you to be."
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I'm doing very well there actually. I've been a programmer professionally for nearly two years. When I started I kept my day job and programmed at nights. Yes, working 100 hour weeks and short changing myself 20 to make my time sheet look impressive to my future employer was heaps of fun, thanks for asking. But after years of poverty I paid off a lot of debt quickly. Now I have a $58,000 mortgage, an $11,000 car loan and am on the edge of paying off the last feww thousand on the last of my credit card consolidation loans. No other debts except a $500 credit card, which I let stay at the limit because $500 is nothing to pay off if I ever need to. I only have the card to fuel my FatBrain.com habit. Of course, now Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car, so maybe all my hard work has been in vain.... Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
Of course, now Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car, so maybe all my hard work has been in vain.... :) Let's talk about this again in 2 years after the kids show up. David
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Despite any high and mighty notions you might have about today's "modern male", we're all still driven by the same primal urges that have been around since the first man saw a naked woman bending over a creek to get a drink of water. Like it or not, we're all pretty much the same in that respect. If we still made a practice of dancing naked around a fire and bragging openly of our battle victories, hunting prowess, or our ability to shag any female within reach (or reasonable pursuit distance), I'm sure you'd be right there, waiting to take your turn at the "I'm a man and let me tell you why" boogie. How's that for open and honest?
Yada yada I am so sick of hearing the whole "while we consider ourselves modern we really are just a bunch of cells looking for another bunch of cells to inseminate and so continue our blood line and the species". If you were only allowed one thing about our basic drives then yes, too bloody right that is what it is about. But that is like saying "strip C++ bare and see what it is at is core, an archaic language, ignore the beauty of ATl/MFC and its power in the hands of a skilled programmer. Just bloody forget that and remember it is an old language. Therefore no hope, move on then, right, right". But we dont and we shouldnt do the same about us. We seem to have reached a stage in humanity where we can mix love and survival without dying off. Maybe that is what I am really talking about.. all this "damn I would like to bang Cindy Crawford" talk reviles me, it makes me feel damned cheap (just being around that talk) and makes the "object" of our lust even cheaper. As you have all said most of it is just stupid bravado meant to impress the next guy or be "part of the wannabe Cindy banging group". We already know that is false, yet we persist with it. Sex is sex. Pretty much a bunch of nerves yelling at our brain and our brain going "ooooh an orgasm, how nice". So to me sex is already dead in the water (there are enough kiddies running around that I don't have to add my two cents to continue the human race). Phuketing is way worse and not just pointless but damaging, it goes against everything that I believe in and like to think other educated men believe in. Making love (stop rolling your eyes and telling your mate how gay I am for saying that ;), that is a big part of our attitude problems) is part of what being a modern man is about. It is about having sex but being in love with that person. Not just thinking "phwoaarr great breasts" and hoping you can roll out of bed and get home before midnight leaving her alone. *sighs* go figure maybe I am just some feminine freak of a man but just banging some girl you hardly know, whether she looks like Cindy or not, just seems utterly pointless and unmeaningful to me. I wouldn't do it if I had the chance and love was not involved (with Cindy I mean). You get what I am trying to say? And I meant men in general, not just CP guys. *Cindy Crawfords name was the only one that popped into my mind, go figure regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impos
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Yada yada I am so sick of hearing the whole "while we consider ourselves modern we really are just a bunch of cells looking for another bunch of cells to inseminate and so continue our blood line and the species". If you were only allowed one thing about our basic drives then yes, too bloody right that is what it is about. But that is like saying "strip C++ bare and see what it is at is core, an archaic language, ignore the beauty of ATl/MFC and its power in the hands of a skilled programmer. Just bloody forget that and remember it is an old language. Therefore no hope, move on then, right, right". But we dont and we shouldnt do the same about us. We seem to have reached a stage in humanity where we can mix love and survival without dying off. Maybe that is what I am really talking about.. all this "damn I would like to bang Cindy Crawford" talk reviles me, it makes me feel damned cheap (just being around that talk) and makes the "object" of our lust even cheaper. As you have all said most of it is just stupid bravado meant to impress the next guy or be "part of the wannabe Cindy banging group". We already know that is false, yet we persist with it. Sex is sex. Pretty much a bunch of nerves yelling at our brain and our brain going "ooooh an orgasm, how nice". So to me sex is already dead in the water (there are enough kiddies running around that I don't have to add my two cents to continue the human race). Phuketing is way worse and not just pointless but damaging, it goes against everything that I believe in and like to think other educated men believe in. Making love (stop rolling your eyes and telling your mate how gay I am for saying that ;), that is a big part of our attitude problems) is part of what being a modern man is about. It is about having sex but being in love with that person. Not just thinking "phwoaarr great breasts" and hoping you can roll out of bed and get home before midnight leaving her alone. *sighs* go figure maybe I am just some feminine freak of a man but just banging some girl you hardly know, whether she looks like Cindy or not, just seems utterly pointless and unmeaningful to me. I wouldn't do it if I had the chance and love was not involved (with Cindy I mean). You get what I am trying to say? And I meant men in general, not just CP guys. *Cindy Crawfords name was the only one that popped into my mind, go figure regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impos
> "damn I would like to bang Cindy Crawford" talk reviles me I don't think anyone said they'd like to bang Cindy Crawford, but now that you've mentioned it, I'd like to treat Sandra Bullock to a healthy dose of love gravy. Hell, I even think I could fall in love with her if it was a requirement. > Making love (stop rolling your eyes and telling your mate how gay I am > for saying that We never said you were gay... > *sighs* go figure maybe I am just some feminine freak of a man but just > banging some girl you hardly know, whether she looks like Cindy or not, > just seems utterly pointless and unmeaningful to me. ... but then again... > I wouldn't do it if I had the chance and love was not involved (with > Cindy I mean). That pretty much cinches it... :) > You get what I am trying to say? Me take squaw, you take buffalo - good trade!
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Of course, now Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car, so maybe all my hard work has been in vain.... :) Let's talk about this again in 2 years after the kids show up. David
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Yada yada I am so sick of hearing the whole "while we consider ourselves modern we really are just a bunch of cells looking for another bunch of cells to inseminate and so continue our blood line and the species". If you were only allowed one thing about our basic drives then yes, too bloody right that is what it is about. But that is like saying "strip C++ bare and see what it is at is core, an archaic language, ignore the beauty of ATl/MFC and its power in the hands of a skilled programmer. Just bloody forget that and remember it is an old language. Therefore no hope, move on then, right, right". But we dont and we shouldnt do the same about us. We seem to have reached a stage in humanity where we can mix love and survival without dying off. Maybe that is what I am really talking about.. all this "damn I would like to bang Cindy Crawford" talk reviles me, it makes me feel damned cheap (just being around that talk) and makes the "object" of our lust even cheaper. As you have all said most of it is just stupid bravado meant to impress the next guy or be "part of the wannabe Cindy banging group". We already know that is false, yet we persist with it. Sex is sex. Pretty much a bunch of nerves yelling at our brain and our brain going "ooooh an orgasm, how nice". So to me sex is already dead in the water (there are enough kiddies running around that I don't have to add my two cents to continue the human race). Phuketing is way worse and not just pointless but damaging, it goes against everything that I believe in and like to think other educated men believe in. Making love (stop rolling your eyes and telling your mate how gay I am for saying that ;), that is a big part of our attitude problems) is part of what being a modern man is about. It is about having sex but being in love with that person. Not just thinking "phwoaarr great breasts" and hoping you can roll out of bed and get home before midnight leaving her alone. *sighs* go figure maybe I am just some feminine freak of a man but just banging some girl you hardly know, whether she looks like Cindy or not, just seems utterly pointless and unmeaningful to me. I wouldn't do it if I had the chance and love was not involved (with Cindy I mean). You get what I am trying to say? And I meant men in general, not just CP guys. *Cindy Crawfords name was the only one that popped into my mind, go figure regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impos
I agree completely with what you have said, but it isn't quite as easy as you make it out to be. If you ever went to a college party in your youth then you would know that it is all too easy to start those 'meaningful' conversations that the chicks love, and then in turn it's very hard to refrain from the ensuing sex. With or without alcohol. Now I personally can count the girls I've slept with on one hand (hey, as I say, I'm still young), and out of them only two were part of a ongoing relationship. The others were all one night girls as a result of getting a little too chatty at parties. I fail to see what is wrong with that? Both parties knew that it was merely a simple 'borrowing' of the others body to releive the most basic of human urges. The fact that we both liked each other was probably not that important. My point is that in the twentyith century sex finally moved out of the realm of "only if your married" and into "it's okay to have fun with your body". If both parties have fun, what can possibly be wrong with it? Short of some religious arguments that I wont pay attention to. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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> "damn I would like to bang Cindy Crawford" talk reviles me I don't think anyone said they'd like to bang Cindy Crawford, but now that you've mentioned it, I'd like to treat Sandra Bullock to a healthy dose of love gravy. Hell, I even think I could fall in love with her if it was a requirement. > Making love (stop rolling your eyes and telling your mate how gay I am > for saying that We never said you were gay... > *sighs* go figure maybe I am just some feminine freak of a man but just > banging some girl you hardly know, whether she looks like Cindy or not, > just seems utterly pointless and unmeaningful to me. ... but then again... > I wouldn't do it if I had the chance and love was not involved (with > Cindy I mean). That pretty much cinches it... :) > You get what I am trying to say? Me take squaw, you take buffalo - good trade!
John, You really need to let your ego out a little more often - the little fella's starting to get too full of himself. And with all these constant b/j's, etc, how do you find time for you goats? Or have you really got no idea what the hell I was just talking about? We never said you were gay... That's the side effect of being an open guy (i.e. senstive and not afraid to show how you really feel). All the other blokes think your gay, even though they probably wish they could do so too. I am a fairly open guy in that respect, and I get treated differently by other guy's who don't really know me, because of it. It's like we're leppers or something :(. The good side effect is that the girls tend to love sensitive guys who aren't afraid of shoeing their feelings in front of their friends. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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Dave, it only takes nine months for the kids to show up. I think you're thinking about a rhinoceros...
Yeah, but your wife doesn't start demanding a bigger house until she's 6 months pregnant with the 2nd one. :) That's when the money really starts to pour out the door. David
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... and balls. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
I'm just waiting for someone to be brave enough to reply to this one.:-D "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
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... and balls. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018 "Don't belong. Never join. Think for yourself. Peace" - Victor Stone
... and balls But my bitch doesn't have balls, and she's a dog. :cool: David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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> Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car Two possible responses: 1) Does your wife know about Donna? 2) Bigger house and car goes with bigger wife
1/ Yes, she says it's one less menial job for her 2/ Even I'm not game to tell her that one !!! Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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Of course, now Donna is pregnant she wants a bigger house and bigger car, so maybe all my hard work has been in vain.... :) Let's talk about this again in 2 years after the kids show up. David
This will be child number three - Hannah is five and Calvin is one. Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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Dave, it only takes nine months for the kids to show up. I think you're thinking about a rhinoceros...
I'll show my wife this post - you're a dead man ;P Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.
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John, You really need to let your ego out a little more often - the little fella's starting to get too full of himself. And with all these constant b/j's, etc, how do you find time for you goats? Or have you really got no idea what the hell I was just talking about? We never said you were gay... That's the side effect of being an open guy (i.e. senstive and not afraid to show how you really feel). All the other blokes think your gay, even though they probably wish they could do so too. I am a fairly open guy in that respect, and I get treated differently by other guy's who don't really know me, because of it. It's like we're leppers or something :(. The good side effect is that the girls tend to love sensitive guys who aren't afraid of shoeing their feelings in front of their friends. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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Dave, it only takes nine months for the kids to show up. I think you're thinking about a rhinoceros...
LOL! cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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I agree completely with what you have said, but it isn't quite as easy as you make it out to be. If you ever went to a college party in your youth then you would know that it is all too easy to start those 'meaningful' conversations that the chicks love, and then in turn it's very hard to refrain from the ensuing sex. With or without alcohol. Now I personally can count the girls I've slept with on one hand (hey, as I say, I'm still young), and out of them only two were part of a ongoing relationship. The others were all one night girls as a result of getting a little too chatty at parties. I fail to see what is wrong with that? Both parties knew that it was merely a simple 'borrowing' of the others body to releive the most basic of human urges. The fact that we both liked each other was probably not that important. My point is that in the twentyith century sex finally moved out of the realm of "only if your married" and into "it's okay to have fun with your body". If both parties have fun, what can possibly be wrong with it? Short of some religious arguments that I wont pay attention to. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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Now I personally can count the girls I've slept with on one hand Hey - you can count to 32 on one hand if you use binary;) Steve T.
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Oh man - I'm not sure I wanna go here :) Ah well - I've just had a glass of the nicest Chardonnay I've ever tasted so why not... but how much wealth has the codeproject brought to Chris? I'm still in Canberra, and my car is 8 years old and squeaks. I think it's your duty as Code Project readers to tell your boss that we have 200,000 incredibly cool, handsome and exceedingly generous readers who are desperate to hear about their product, and that advertising helps CodeProject, and hence the aforementioned handsome readers, which in turn helps them, the boss. Do women adore him these days? As opposed to when I wasn't a computer geek and merely a maths geek? Hmm - tough one ;) Take a random sample of the people in this industry. Chances are they are all guys. Actually testing the theory as to the animal magnetism (or lack thereof) CodeProject generates would require some test subjects. Potential subjects can email me at... Can he go to a café, walk straight to the hottest chick in town and say:"hey babe, I'm Chris. From the codeproject that is." Absolutely. I can, for the same price, have the drink of my choice poured down my front, over my head, or in my lap. The only time that I can recall CodeProject being a winner with the fairer sex was in Atlanta when a charming young lady wanted to know who the cute little green guy was on my T-shirt. It's a start! To be honest, when I'm travelling in the States it's the accent, not the job that piques curiosity the most. :-D cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
If it's your brakes squeaking that means you need a brake job. If it is coming from the engine compartment you either need a belt or altenator, power steering pump or something like that. Its your cars way of saying fix me. Kindof like how the smoke coming from a computer means its time to remove the paper clip (not the word one). My dad is a GM certified Master Mechanic for several years so I know alot about this (sometimes to much) -Matt Newman :suss:
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If it's your brakes squeaking that means you need a brake job. If it is coming from the engine compartment you either need a belt or altenator, power steering pump or something like that. Its your cars way of saying fix me. Kindof like how the smoke coming from a computer means its time to remove the paper clip (not the word one). My dad is a GM certified Master Mechanic for several years so I know alot about this (sometimes to much) -Matt Newman :suss:
It's the front suspension strut mounting rubbers, and also the front rollbar bushes. Rear brakes squeak a little due to glazing but I'm too lazy to pull the rotors off and take them in for machining. Cam and alternator belts are new, but the idler pulley bearings are shot and I don't even want to think about what they would cost. I used to work on all my cars myself (I've had 15!), but they were all sub $1000 jobbies where you could pretty much climb into the engine compartment to do the head or pull off an idler arm. My latest has a V6 shoehorned into a spot originally designed for a 4cyl (it's a Mazda 626) and you're lucky if you can get a screwdriver in there. Actually I remember about a year back the rear LHS caliper locked up due to a faulty handbrake cable, so I was cruising along and smelled this weird smell. A car pulled up along side and were shouting at me a pointing, and when I looked in the rear vision mirror there was a HUGE plume of smoke trailing me. Turns out it was just the brake pad overheating (a tad) but it scared the willies out of me. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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lol I have the Automatic Outlaw Humour Hints Inserter programme running :-D so no wucking furries regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible." - Chretien Malesherbes
