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  • D David Wulff

    It's a fun game the whole family can play - what type of connector would I attach to this? http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/tv-out.jpg[^] (sorry about the poor quality, but it's the best I could get on my hands and knees while trying not to suffocate myself) If not clear, the photo shows two rows of holes, three on the top, four in the middle, and a hole for the plastic orientation pin on the plug. Could it be for a normal four-pin S-VHS socket using just the end pin of each row and the rest are either there (a) because different countries have different pin layouts, or (b) because it's a universal socket and they just connect up the pins they want? I want to wire my PC up to my new TV and am assuming that is the connector to look at? I'm afraid I am not much of a technophile. Note to self: next time don't buy the oem video cards with no documentation just to save ten quid!! Also, can I just run an optics cable between my DVD player and the optical-in on my Audigy 2 'connection panel thingy' (that bit that sits in the drive bay), and have it process the sound even when the power is off to the PC? (i.e. can it and the PCI card draw it's own power from the motherboard?) Did I mention I'm not a technophile... :-O


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    Gary Kirkham
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    It looks like an S-Video socket /edit except, after more thought, I think they are 4 pin...sorry Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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    • D David Wulff

      It's a fun game the whole family can play - what type of connector would I attach to this? http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/tv-out.jpg[^] (sorry about the poor quality, but it's the best I could get on my hands and knees while trying not to suffocate myself) If not clear, the photo shows two rows of holes, three on the top, four in the middle, and a hole for the plastic orientation pin on the plug. Could it be for a normal four-pin S-VHS socket using just the end pin of each row and the rest are either there (a) because different countries have different pin layouts, or (b) because it's a universal socket and they just connect up the pins they want? I want to wire my PC up to my new TV and am assuming that is the connector to look at? I'm afraid I am not much of a technophile. Note to self: next time don't buy the oem video cards with no documentation just to save ten quid!! Also, can I just run an optics cable between my DVD player and the optical-in on my Audigy 2 'connection panel thingy' (that bit that sits in the drive bay), and have it process the sound even when the power is off to the PC? (i.e. can it and the PCI card draw it's own power from the motherboard?) Did I mention I'm not a technophile... :-O


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      Lost User
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      I'd say S-Video. Not sure about the optical question though :) [edit] I see this has been answered already :-O [/edit] Paul ;)

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      • D David Wulff

        It's a fun game the whole family can play - what type of connector would I attach to this? http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/tv-out.jpg[^] (sorry about the poor quality, but it's the best I could get on my hands and knees while trying not to suffocate myself) If not clear, the photo shows two rows of holes, three on the top, four in the middle, and a hole for the plastic orientation pin on the plug. Could it be for a normal four-pin S-VHS socket using just the end pin of each row and the rest are either there (a) because different countries have different pin layouts, or (b) because it's a universal socket and they just connect up the pins they want? I want to wire my PC up to my new TV and am assuming that is the connector to look at? I'm afraid I am not much of a technophile. Note to self: next time don't buy the oem video cards with no documentation just to save ten quid!! Also, can I just run an optics cable between my DVD player and the optical-in on my Audigy 2 'connection panel thingy' (that bit that sits in the drive bay), and have it process the sound even when the power is off to the PC? (i.e. can it and the PCI card draw it's own power from the motherboard?) Did I mention I'm not a technophile... :-O


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        KaRl
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        I agree with Gary, it looks like a S-Video connector, like on this card. I use it to connect my Radeon 9000 to my TV, through a cable with S-Video male on on side, and RCA male on the other.


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        • L Lost User

          I'd say S-Video. Not sure about the optical question though :) [edit] I see this has been answered already :-O [/edit] Paul ;)

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          John M Drescher
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          That was what I was thinking.. John

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          • D David Wulff

            It's a fun game the whole family can play - what type of connector would I attach to this? http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/tv-out.jpg[^] (sorry about the poor quality, but it's the best I could get on my hands and knees while trying not to suffocate myself) If not clear, the photo shows two rows of holes, three on the top, four in the middle, and a hole for the plastic orientation pin on the plug. Could it be for a normal four-pin S-VHS socket using just the end pin of each row and the rest are either there (a) because different countries have different pin layouts, or (b) because it's a universal socket and they just connect up the pins they want? I want to wire my PC up to my new TV and am assuming that is the connector to look at? I'm afraid I am not much of a technophile. Note to self: next time don't buy the oem video cards with no documentation just to save ten quid!! Also, can I just run an optics cable between my DVD player and the optical-in on my Audigy 2 'connection panel thingy' (that bit that sits in the drive bay), and have it process the sound even when the power is off to the PC? (i.e. can it and the PCI card draw it's own power from the motherboard?) Did I mention I'm not a technophile... :-O


            David Wulff

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            Chris Richardson
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            It's like a more complicated S-Video. I've got one on the side of my laptop, and a special connector came with it. The connector has an S-Video connector on it, as well as two RCA jacks (black and yellow). Here's what Dell's site has to say: "Connects your computer to a TV. Also connects S/PDIF capable devices using the TV/digital audio adapter cable." Chris Richardson

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            • G Gary Kirkham

              It looks like an S-Video socket /edit except, after more thought, I think they are 4 pin...sorry Gary Kirkham A working Program is one that has only unobserved bugs I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted paychecks

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              David Wulff
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              Thanks. They are four pin yes, but as I said an S-VHS plug would fit in that socket correctly but only use use the outer pin on each row. I guess what I'm asking is if anyone knows of anything else it could be, else I will have to assume it is just a universal socket set up for S-VHS. It would make sense, to me, as that is what a lot of digital cameras and camcorders seem to connect with, but I don't want to build the entire set-up around that fact and find at the last moment I can't plug bits in because they're incompatable. :((


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              • C Chris Richardson

                It's like a more complicated S-Video. I've got one on the side of my laptop, and a special connector came with it. The connector has an S-Video connector on it, as well as two RCA jacks (black and yellow). Here's what Dell's site has to say: "Connects your computer to a TV. Also connects S/PDIF capable devices using the TV/digital audio adapter cable." Chris Richardson

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                Chris Richardson wrote: black and yellow My guess is that that would be mono audio, and video respectively. Paul ;)

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                • C Chris Richardson

                  It's like a more complicated S-Video. I've got one on the side of my laptop, and a special connector came with it. The connector has an S-Video connector on it, as well as two RCA jacks (black and yellow). Here's what Dell's site has to say: "Connects your computer to a TV. Also connects S/PDIF capable devices using the TV/digital audio adapter cable." Chris Richardson

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                  David Wulff
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                  Ok, thanks for that. So would I be able to connect a standard S-VHS/S-Video plug to it and run it directly into the S-VHS socket on the back of the TV, or would I need to get one of those special adaptors you talk of and then plug both ends into that? [edit] I guess I could use it normally, surely the extra pins, if present, would supply the audio in the case of your adaptor?


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                  • D David Wulff

                    It's a fun game the whole family can play - what type of connector would I attach to this? http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/tv-out.jpg[^] (sorry about the poor quality, but it's the best I could get on my hands and knees while trying not to suffocate myself) If not clear, the photo shows two rows of holes, three on the top, four in the middle, and a hole for the plastic orientation pin on the plug. Could it be for a normal four-pin S-VHS socket using just the end pin of each row and the rest are either there (a) because different countries have different pin layouts, or (b) because it's a universal socket and they just connect up the pins they want? I want to wire my PC up to my new TV and am assuming that is the connector to look at? I'm afraid I am not much of a technophile. Note to self: next time don't buy the oem video cards with no documentation just to save ten quid!! Also, can I just run an optics cable between my DVD player and the optical-in on my Audigy 2 'connection panel thingy' (that bit that sits in the drive bay), and have it process the sound even when the power is off to the PC? (i.e. can it and the PCI card draw it's own power from the motherboard?) Did I mention I'm not a technophile... :-O


                    David Wulff

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                    Matt Newman
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                    Is it an ATI product? Their S-Video usually is off standard to allow for special adaptors. I believe a standard S-Video can be used with them. Matt Newman
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                    • D David Wulff

                      It's a fun game the whole family can play - what type of connector would I attach to this? http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/tv-out.jpg[^] (sorry about the poor quality, but it's the best I could get on my hands and knees while trying not to suffocate myself) If not clear, the photo shows two rows of holes, three on the top, four in the middle, and a hole for the plastic orientation pin on the plug. Could it be for a normal four-pin S-VHS socket using just the end pin of each row and the rest are either there (a) because different countries have different pin layouts, or (b) because it's a universal socket and they just connect up the pins they want? I want to wire my PC up to my new TV and am assuming that is the connector to look at? I'm afraid I am not much of a technophile. Note to self: next time don't buy the oem video cards with no documentation just to save ten quid!! Also, can I just run an optics cable between my DVD player and the optical-in on my Audigy 2 'connection panel thingy' (that bit that sits in the drive bay), and have it process the sound even when the power is off to the PC? (i.e. can it and the PCI card draw it's own power from the motherboard?) Did I mention I'm not a technophile... :-O


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                      John M Drescher
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                      Ok. Looking at it more closely it looks like the one on my VisionTek Xtasy NVIDIA Geforce 2 card. It connects to an external box that has a tv tuner, remote control sensor as well as s-video, audio and composite inputs and outputs. John

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                      • D David Wulff

                        It's a fun game the whole family can play - what type of connector would I attach to this? http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/tv-out.jpg[^] (sorry about the poor quality, but it's the best I could get on my hands and knees while trying not to suffocate myself) If not clear, the photo shows two rows of holes, three on the top, four in the middle, and a hole for the plastic orientation pin on the plug. Could it be for a normal four-pin S-VHS socket using just the end pin of each row and the rest are either there (a) because different countries have different pin layouts, or (b) because it's a universal socket and they just connect up the pins they want? I want to wire my PC up to my new TV and am assuming that is the connector to look at? I'm afraid I am not much of a technophile. Note to self: next time don't buy the oem video cards with no documentation just to save ten quid!! Also, can I just run an optics cable between my DVD player and the optical-in on my Audigy 2 'connection panel thingy' (that bit that sits in the drive bay), and have it process the sound even when the power is off to the PC? (i.e. can it and the PCI card draw it's own power from the motherboard?) Did I mention I'm not a technophile... :-O


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                        Daniel Turini
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                        It looks like a big, blurred S-Video connector with an even bigger pink arrow pointing to it. :-D I hope that you have money because it’s necessary to be practical. And I hope that at least once a year you put some money in front of you and say "you are mine" just to make clear who owns who. - Victor Hugo

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                          Is it an ATI product? Their S-Video usually is off standard to allow for special adaptors. I believe a standard S-Video can be used with them. Matt Newman
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                          David Wulff
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                          Matt Newman wrote: Is it an ATI product? It is, yeah, it's a generic branded Radeon 9700 Pro card. Matt Newman wrote: I believe a standard S-Video can be used with them. Ok.


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                            Matt Newman wrote: Is it an ATI product? It is, yeah, it's a generic branded Radeon 9700 Pro card. Matt Newman wrote: I believe a standard S-Video can be used with them. Ok.


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                            David Wulff wrote: It is, yeah, it's a generic branded Radeon 9700 Pro card. Then it should work. The retail versions also come with a S-Video to Composite Video adapter. Matt Newman
                            Sonork: 100:11179 "Whoa, that ruled! What function key do I gotta press to get that to happen again?" - Strong Bad

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                              David Wulff wrote: It is, yeah, it's a generic branded Radeon 9700 Pro card. Then it should work. The retail versions also come with a S-Video to Composite Video adapter. Matt Newman
                              Sonork: 100:11179 "Whoa, that ruled! What function key do I gotta press to get that to happen again?" - Strong Bad

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                              David Wulff
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                              Thanks Matt (and all you others), I'll move forward on the assumption that I can connect it as I'd wanted to and if necessary (i.e. I can't) I will be able to buy an adaptor. Now, do you know anything about digital audio? :rolleyes:


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                                It's a fun game the whole family can play - what type of connector would I attach to this? http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/tv-out.jpg[^] (sorry about the poor quality, but it's the best I could get on my hands and knees while trying not to suffocate myself) If not clear, the photo shows two rows of holes, three on the top, four in the middle, and a hole for the plastic orientation pin on the plug. Could it be for a normal four-pin S-VHS socket using just the end pin of each row and the rest are either there (a) because different countries have different pin layouts, or (b) because it's a universal socket and they just connect up the pins they want? I want to wire my PC up to my new TV and am assuming that is the connector to look at? I'm afraid I am not much of a technophile. Note to self: next time don't buy the oem video cards with no documentation just to save ten quid!! Also, can I just run an optics cable between my DVD player and the optical-in on my Audigy 2 'connection panel thingy' (that bit that sits in the drive bay), and have it process the sound even when the power is off to the PC? (i.e. can it and the PCI card draw it's own power from the motherboard?) Did I mention I'm not a technophile... :-O


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                                Jarrett Vance
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                                david, it might not be s-video. for example, my ati radeon all in wonder has two connectors that look much like the connector picture but one is for the breakout video in box and the other is for a splitter cable that has s-video, composite and line out audio. it looks like this: http://buy.ati.com/shopati/product.asp?category=AA&part%5Fno=CABLE+4801+US&find%5Fcategory=AA&find%5Fdescription=Accessories&find%5Fpart%5Fdesc=&country=USA[^]

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                                • D David Wulff

                                  It's a fun game the whole family can play - what type of connector would I attach to this? http://www.davidwulff.co.uk/tv-out.jpg[^] (sorry about the poor quality, but it's the best I could get on my hands and knees while trying not to suffocate myself) If not clear, the photo shows two rows of holes, three on the top, four in the middle, and a hole for the plastic orientation pin on the plug. Could it be for a normal four-pin S-VHS socket using just the end pin of each row and the rest are either there (a) because different countries have different pin layouts, or (b) because it's a universal socket and they just connect up the pins they want? I want to wire my PC up to my new TV and am assuming that is the connector to look at? I'm afraid I am not much of a technophile. Note to self: next time don't buy the oem video cards with no documentation just to save ten quid!! Also, can I just run an optics cable between my DVD player and the optical-in on my Audigy 2 'connection panel thingy' (that bit that sits in the drive bay), and have it process the sound even when the power is off to the PC? (i.e. can it and the PCI card draw it's own power from the motherboard?) Did I mention I'm not a technophile... :-O


                                  David Wulff

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                                  The connector is a mini DIN, there are about 4-5 standard versions including an 8 pin (plug Maplins part no. JX06G). You'll need ot check with the card manufacturer for the pinout though as it appears to be non standard. And yes, you can connect and optical patch lead straight through as it always follows the SP/DIF format. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                                    david, it might not be s-video. for example, my ati radeon all in wonder has two connectors that look much like the connector picture but one is for the breakout video in box and the other is for a splitter cable that has s-video, composite and line out audio. it looks like this: http://buy.ati.com/shopati/product.asp?category=AA&part%5Fno=CABLE+4801+US&find%5Fcategory=AA&find%5Fdescription=Accessories&find%5Fpart%5Fdesc=&country=USA[^]

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                                    Thanks for that link Jarrett, poking aorund on that site I found this PDF: http://mirror.ati.com/support/manualpdf/Rade9700.pdf[^] On page 9 it labels the connector "S-VIDEO OUT". Then in the blurb following it says "The S-Video out can also support a composite connection via the S-Video-to-composite adapter", which apepars to be what you have linked to. So going by that information it should mean I can use both a normal S-VHS plug and their custom adapter. The instructions are: Connecting Your S-Video Out to a TV or VCR 1. Turn off your PC and your TV (or VCR). 2. Ensure your card was installed correctly as per the Getting Started Guide. 3. Determine if your TV (or VCR) has a S-Video or Composite video connection. 4. Looking at the back of your PC, locate your S-Video Out. Using a S-Video cable or the supplied adapter cable, attach one end of the cable to your graphics card and the other to your TV (or VCR). Refer to the illustration for further help. 5. Turn on your TV (or VCR) then your PC. :cool: Did you know if you connect the TV out to a VCR you can record your monitor?! That would be great for recording games, etc! Sadly though it seems the card will fix the TV to 50Hz in Europe? What if the TV is 100Hz? Will it damage it? That's pretty bad if it does either way. :(


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                                      The connector is a mini DIN, there are about 4-5 standard versions including an 8 pin (plug Maplins part no. JX06G). You'll need ot check with the card manufacturer for the pinout though as it appears to be non standard. And yes, you can connect and optical patch lead straight through as it always follows the SP/DIF format. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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                                      Trollslayer wrote: You'll need ot check with the card manufacturer for the pinout though as it appears to be non standard Thanks, I did using a link Jarrett gave me above and it seems I can do what I want. Trollslayer wrote: you can connect and optical patch lead straight through as it always follows the SP/DIF format Remember what I said about my technology skills? In five-year-old-speak, that means who shot who with the what now? :rolleyes:


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                                        Ok, thanks for that. So would I be able to connect a standard S-VHS/S-Video plug to it and run it directly into the S-VHS socket on the back of the TV, or would I need to get one of those special adaptors you talk of and then plug both ends into that? [edit] I guess I could use it normally, surely the extra pins, if present, would supply the audio in the case of your adaptor?


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                                        Chris Richardson
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                                        I'm not sure, but from the looks of the adapter I have you will need the adapter as well. The male black plastic "pin" in the adapter is larger than the female counterpart in the the regular S-Video connector. Here's two photos to see what I'm talking about: Funny SVideo Connector With Large "Pin Hole"[^] Regular SVideo Connector With Small "Pin Hole"[^] Chris Richardson

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                                          Trollslayer wrote: You'll need ot check with the card manufacturer for the pinout though as it appears to be non standard Thanks, I did using a link Jarrett gave me above and it seems I can do what I want. Trollslayer wrote: you can connect and optical patch lead straight through as it always follows the SP/DIF format Remember what I said about my technology skills? In five-year-old-speak, that means who shot who with the what now? :rolleyes:


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                                          Jason Jystad
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                                          David Wulff wrote: who shot who with the what now? SP/DIF = Sony and Philips Digital Interconnect Format :rolleyes: Here: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/han/docs/sp-dif.html[^] (Watch out, it's technical. :) ) Basically, its the digital audio widget that can be used to connect two audio chingas via a cable thingamabob that supports the standard. ;-)

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