LCD monitor
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I plan to buy an LCD monitor (17" probably). Does anyone have a link to a guide on buying such monitor. And maybe some advice from fellow CPians here :) -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
I use a BENQ FP767. I like it. I got it from Rob Jezek at www.pbsnow.com. Got a good price, too.
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I have to agree. When it camne time for me to get a new monitor, the LCDs lost out for two main reasons: 1) Colour clarity and 2) Resolution - I can't live without 1600 x 1400 anymore. The key, as you say, is a good CRT. I went with a ViewSonic G90fb and haven't regretted not buying an LCD. Now, if they come out with one that will handle 1600 x 1400 at a refresh rate of 85mhz ... well, that may be different!
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I have to agree. When it camne time for me to get a new monitor, the LCDs lost out for two main reasons: 1) Colour clarity and 2) Resolution - I can't live without 1600 x 1400 anymore. The key, as you say, is a good CRT. I went with a ViewSonic G90fb and haven't regretted not buying an LCD. Now, if they come out with one that will handle 1600 x 1400 at a refresh rate of 85mhz ... well, that may be different!
Andrew McCarter wrote: a refresh rate of 85mhz :omg::omg::omg:
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I've used LCD monitors and much prefer a good CRT monitor because of the colour quality. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Then try a good LCD . I have both and much prefer the flat screen. Richard "The man that hath not music in himself and is not moved with concord of sweet sounds is fit for treasons, stratagems and spoils; Let no man trust him." Shakespeare
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I've used LCD monitors and much prefer a good CRT monitor because of the colour quality. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Hehe, try a good LCD ;) I have worked with 19" Eizo monitors for years, and you don't get a better CRT, but I just love my 2 Samsung LCD's and is never looking back... - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" http://SourceLocker.net[^] SourceControl and DefectTracker Project. nsms@spyf.dk <- Spam Collecting ;)
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I plan to buy an LCD monitor (17" probably). Does anyone have a link to a guide on buying such monitor. And maybe some advice from fellow CPians here :) -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
Try here: http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?a=frm&s=50009562&f=67909965 I got a Hyundai ImageQuest Q17 and am quite happy with it.
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I plan to buy an LCD monitor (17" probably). Does anyone have a link to a guide on buying such monitor. And maybe some advice from fellow CPians here :) -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
I've got two Neovo LCD's. I originally went with them because of the price ($399 for a 17in), but I've been very impressed with the quality. I loved being able to reclaim my desktop from the big CRT. As for the theory that they aren't good for gaming, I can say that everything I've played (C&C Generals, Warcraft III, Quake III, Everquest) has run flawlessly with no ghosting/blurring problems at all. The only downside from the big CRT that I can tell is that my cat can no longer sleep on the monitor, but that's her problem, not mine :) Josh Find a penny, pick it up, and all day long you'll have a back-ache...
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I plan to buy an LCD monitor (17" probably). Does anyone have a link to a guide on buying such monitor. And maybe some advice from fellow CPians here :) -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
:rose::rose::rose: -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson
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Andrew McCarter wrote: a refresh rate of 85mhz :omg::omg::omg:
Gavin Lees wrote: Andrew McCarter wrote: a refresh rate of 85mhz :omg::omg::omg: That's what I was thinking :omg: ;P
Ryan
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I have to agree. When it camne time for me to get a new monitor, the LCDs lost out for two main reasons: 1) Colour clarity and 2) Resolution - I can't live without 1600 x 1400 anymore. The key, as you say, is a good CRT. I went with a ViewSonic G90fb and haven't regretted not buying an LCD. Now, if they come out with one that will handle 1600 x 1400 at a refresh rate of 85mhz ... well, that may be different!
Its called that $5000 dollar Sony plasma screen I saw over at Circuit City. I was told that the refresh rate on a CRT has no meaning on the LCDs do to the technology change. Told to me at a hardware show, by one of the ViewSonic reps, unfortunatey I couldn't hang around for the whole conversation. And I was told that in a few years they don't plan on making CRTs, this way they can keep the price up and screw consumers. Lets hope that this isn't true.
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Its called that $5000 dollar Sony plasma screen I saw over at Circuit City. I was told that the refresh rate on a CRT has no meaning on the LCDs do to the technology change. Told to me at a hardware show, by one of the ViewSonic reps, unfortunatey I couldn't hang around for the whole conversation. And I was told that in a few years they don't plan on making CRTs, this way they can keep the price up and screw consumers. Lets hope that this isn't true.
"C++ : Where friends have access to your private members." — Gavin Russell Baker.
zenboy wrote: I was told that the refresh rate on a CRT has no meaning on the LCDs Not true. The LCD still works by multiplexing the column and row signals - it's still refreshed pixel-by-pixel. If the refresh rate is slow - which it used to be - you could see trails of movement and stuttering movements. The two technologies which have improved it have been dual-scan (where two halves of the screen are scanned independently - kind of like interlaced-mode on a CRT) and Active Matrix (TFT - Thin Film Transistor), where each pixel has a transistor which amplifies the signal at that point. It still needs to be refreshed, but the duration of the refresh pulse can be lower. ISTR that high-end CRTs still feature faster refresh rates than most LCDs - up in the 100-200Hz range. I run this monitor (at work) at 85Hz because it's not that good and not very stable at 100Hz+. I tend to work in 1152x864 pixels because I don't like blurry pixels - this monitor doesn't have a low enough dot pitch (despite being a 19"!) to have 1 logical pixel correspond to enough physical pixels at higher resolutions. I also prefer the shape of "small fonts" to "large fonts" - much higher resolution and I can't read the text. Or click the icons. :-O
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zenboy wrote: I was told that the refresh rate on a CRT has no meaning on the LCDs Not true. The LCD still works by multiplexing the column and row signals - it's still refreshed pixel-by-pixel. If the refresh rate is slow - which it used to be - you could see trails of movement and stuttering movements. The two technologies which have improved it have been dual-scan (where two halves of the screen are scanned independently - kind of like interlaced-mode on a CRT) and Active Matrix (TFT - Thin Film Transistor), where each pixel has a transistor which amplifies the signal at that point. It still needs to be refreshed, but the duration of the refresh pulse can be lower. ISTR that high-end CRTs still feature faster refresh rates than most LCDs - up in the 100-200Hz range. I run this monitor (at work) at 85Hz because it's not that good and not very stable at 100Hz+. I tend to work in 1152x864 pixels because I don't like blurry pixels - this monitor doesn't have a low enough dot pitch (despite being a 19"!) to have 1 logical pixel correspond to enough physical pixels at higher resolutions. I also prefer the shape of "small fonts" to "large fonts" - much higher resolution and I can't read the text. Or click the icons. :-O
What I meant, is that I run my CRTs at 85 also, I was told that the 65Mhz refresh rate on an LCD is basically the same as the 85 on a CRT because of the way it refreshes. Which I believe is what you mean by saying that the refresh pulse can be lower. 1152x864 pixels because I don't like blurry pixels - this monitor doesn't have a low enough dot pitch (despite being a 19"!) that why you need two really good CRTs next to each other in a dual monitor setup. I run 1024x768 on each, so I actually get really good resolution and a 2048 x 768 screen. After this, I can't stand to get one monitor. Which means that I'm also not switching to LCDs until I'm offered a really big plasma for the same price as my PC (preferably lower)
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What I meant, is that I run my CRTs at 85 also, I was told that the 65Mhz refresh rate on an LCD is basically the same as the 85 on a CRT because of the way it refreshes. Which I believe is what you mean by saying that the refresh pulse can be lower. 1152x864 pixels because I don't like blurry pixels - this monitor doesn't have a low enough dot pitch (despite being a 19"!) that why you need two really good CRTs next to each other in a dual monitor setup. I run 1024x768 on each, so I actually get really good resolution and a 2048 x 768 screen. After this, I can't stand to get one monitor. Which means that I'm also not switching to LCDs until I'm offered a really big plasma for the same price as my PC (preferably lower)
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It's a decay graph - on a CRT, the energy in a phosphor dot is charged up by the scanning electron beam, then decays over a period of time as it emits light. The flicker you see (sometimes!) is that your eye notices the light level dip before increasing again. On an LCD it's a different principle - LCDs work by twisting the polarisation of the light, where there's a filter of a particular polarisation at front and back. The LC takes some small time to twist in response to the current applied during the refresh pulse, then twists back to its rest state when the current is removed (when moving on to the next pixel). In Active Matrix LCD (I think), the transistor continues to apply current to the LC pixel, but does so at a level set by a capacitor. During the refresh cycle, the capacitor is charged to the appropriate level, and again decays as the charge is passed through the transistor and the LC pixel. 85Hz refresh is the vertical refresh interval (between beginning one screen and beginning the next). To my mind, that'll be exactly the same whether it's LCD or CRT.