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No, I'm not talking about code, I'm talking about physical running (aka jogging.) I'm trying to get into it, I've run a few 5K's and stuff but invariably I can run about a mile and then I have to start walking. Since I can use all the exercise I can get, and those 5Ks usually have lots of attractive women I'd like to be able to impress, I figured I'd try to start jogging frequently (3-5 times a week.) All I am doing is a mile, and it is killing me! But each time I always make a point to run the whole thing, not stop or walk unless there are cars in the way and I have to (hasn't happened yet.) Any other joggers out there? How did you get started? "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
Navin wrote: How did you get started? There was this unfriendly Drill Sergeant at basic training that insisted... He wasn't interested in my thoughts on the matter, either. I ride a bike more than I run now, but on occasion it seems like a good idea. My advice, and I have a feeling some people will disagree, is focus on running for x amount of time, not miles. Once you can consistently run for your chosen amount, speed and distance will come through the repetition, and then you start increasing the time. I have found that focusing on distance means that I will be a 3 mile runner, now matter how hard I go, but if I focus on running for a certain amount of time, I get faster and go further. That sort of thing doesn't work for everyone, though. Good luck. Ed Atwell
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No, I'm not talking about code, I'm talking about physical running (aka jogging.) I'm trying to get into it, I've run a few 5K's and stuff but invariably I can run about a mile and then I have to start walking. Since I can use all the exercise I can get, and those 5Ks usually have lots of attractive women I'd like to be able to impress, I figured I'd try to start jogging frequently (3-5 times a week.) All I am doing is a mile, and it is killing me! But each time I always make a point to run the whole thing, not stop or walk unless there are cars in the way and I have to (hasn't happened yet.) Any other joggers out there? How did you get started? "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
(Preface: I'm not a doctor, these suggestions are based on my personal experience - I did bike riding on the weekends when I was in college) I think you need to slow down a bit, you can't talk to the ladies if you're out of breath. ;) Seriously, if you're that wiped out after running a mile, don't run a mile. The goal of exercise is to push your body a little bit, work up a sweat, without overdoing it and straining it. When you get too tired to run, walk for a bit; no one will think less of you. Suggestions: Are you drinking water while running? If you don't drink enough water, your muscles will tire faster due to dehydration. And don't wait until you feel thirsty to drink, drink a little at regular intervals. Increase your distances in small increments. If you can run 1/2 mile consistently, go up to 3/4 mile. It will feel hard at first (since you're running a longer distance than you're used to) but that's the "push your body a little bit" part. Soon you'll be comfortable running 3/4, so move up to 1 mile, and so on. Run in the morning if possible, but not too early. I found that if I started riding at 6 AM, it was just too dang cold and I didn't feel comfortable. If I started at 8 AM, it was a bit warmer and I could get home before noon when it got really hot. --Mike-- Ericahist | Homepage | RightClick-Encrypt | 1ClickPicGrabber Latest art~!@#2rDFA#@(#*%$Rfa39f3fqwf--= NO CARRIER
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(Preface: I'm not a doctor, these suggestions are based on my personal experience - I did bike riding on the weekends when I was in college) I think you need to slow down a bit, you can't talk to the ladies if you're out of breath. ;) Seriously, if you're that wiped out after running a mile, don't run a mile. The goal of exercise is to push your body a little bit, work up a sweat, without overdoing it and straining it. When you get too tired to run, walk for a bit; no one will think less of you. Suggestions: Are you drinking water while running? If you don't drink enough water, your muscles will tire faster due to dehydration. And don't wait until you feel thirsty to drink, drink a little at regular intervals. Increase your distances in small increments. If you can run 1/2 mile consistently, go up to 3/4 mile. It will feel hard at first (since you're running a longer distance than you're used to) but that's the "push your body a little bit" part. Soon you'll be comfortable running 3/4, so move up to 1 mile, and so on. Run in the morning if possible, but not too early. I found that if I started riding at 6 AM, it was just too dang cold and I didn't feel comfortable. If I started at 8 AM, it was a bit warmer and I could get home before noon when it got really hot. --Mike-- Ericahist | Homepage | RightClick-Encrypt | 1ClickPicGrabber Latest art~!@#2rDFA#@(#*%$Rfa39f3fqwf--= NO CARRIER
Michael Dunn wrote: If I started at 8 AM, it was a bit warmer and I could get home before noon when it got really hot. 4 HOURS! :omg:
let the whole world look in
who cares who sees anythingBW
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Michael Dunn wrote: If I started at 8 AM, it was a bit warmer and I could get home before noon when it got really hot. 4 HOURS! :omg:
let the whole world look in
who cares who sees anythingBW
30 mins to get down to the diner, 30 mins to get back... you are right, ONLY 3 HOURS TO EAT?! :wtf:
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No, I'm not talking about code, I'm talking about physical running (aka jogging.) I'm trying to get into it, I've run a few 5K's and stuff but invariably I can run about a mile and then I have to start walking. Since I can use all the exercise I can get, and those 5Ks usually have lots of attractive women I'd like to be able to impress, I figured I'd try to start jogging frequently (3-5 times a week.) All I am doing is a mile, and it is killing me! But each time I always make a point to run the whole thing, not stop or walk unless there are cars in the way and I have to (hasn't happened yet.) Any other joggers out there? How did you get started? "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
I went from "waddling" around the block to running six miles a day. I think the secret is to train your mind (read motivate) and tuning your body to accomodate the increased cardio-vascular exercise. You'll need to get past trying to impress the "pretty girls" as a part of your motivation. :) You have to motivate yourself. BTDT. Get a bike. Train your legs on alternate days with a bike ride. Most important. Keep with it. After a good run, life is good.
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Michael Dunn wrote: If I started at 8 AM, it was a bit warmer and I could get home before noon when it got really hot. 4 HOURS! :omg:
let the whole world look in
who cares who sees anythingBW
Once I'd been riding for a while I got it down to 3.5 hours. I forget how long the round-trip was, about 30 miles I think. --Mike-- Ericahist | Homepage | RightClick-Encrypt | 1ClickPicGrabber Ericahist updated Aug 30!
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Once I'd been riding for a while I got it down to 3.5 hours. I forget how long the round-trip was, about 30 miles I think. --Mike-- Ericahist | Homepage | RightClick-Encrypt | 1ClickPicGrabber Ericahist updated Aug 30!
Michael Dunn wrote: riding :doh: I thought running!. Still, 3.5 hours is about 3 hours longer than I'd go riding. :-O
let the whole world look in
who cares who sees anythingBW
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Michael Dunn wrote: riding :doh: I thought running!. Still, 3.5 hours is about 3 hours longer than I'd go riding. :-O
let the whole world look in
who cares who sees anythingBW
Ah yeah, bike riding. My knees are rather bad so I could never run for any significant distance. Well, I could but I wouldn't be able to walk the next day. --Mike-- Ericahist | Homepage | RightClick-Encrypt | 1ClickPicGrabber Ericahist updated Aug 30!
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No, I'm not talking about code, I'm talking about physical running (aka jogging.) I'm trying to get into it, I've run a few 5K's and stuff but invariably I can run about a mile and then I have to start walking. Since I can use all the exercise I can get, and those 5Ks usually have lots of attractive women I'd like to be able to impress, I figured I'd try to start jogging frequently (3-5 times a week.) All I am doing is a mile, and it is killing me! But each time I always make a point to run the whole thing, not stop or walk unless there are cars in the way and I have to (hasn't happened yet.) Any other joggers out there? How did you get started? "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
I'm actually trying to shoot for a 20 minute 5K run. I use a treadmill for running. I still remember the first day of my mission - "I'll take it easy the first day, I'll only run 2 miles". Got on the machine, lasted about 500 meters, then promptly fell off the side where I stayed crumpled in the fetal position for about 20 minutes. haha. I tried two approaches: 1) Calculate the appropriate speed, then run for as long as I could. Eventually, I would work my way "up" to the distance I wanted. 2) Run slow/moderately for a minimum of 1 mile. Eventually, I would work my way "up" to the distance I wanted, and then would work my way "down" to the speed I wanted. I found 1) absolutely useless. I could run a 6:30 mile pace for about 4 1/2 minutes at which point I was ready for CPR. (If you would have dropped me on an iceberg, I would have melted the damn thing) Small gains of 200 meters would take weeks to accomplish. My stamina didn't improve at all. 2) worked good. I started out at a 10:00 mile pace, and ran for a mile. It didn't seem to take long (or much effort) to increase the distance by 1/2 mile. After a couple of months, I was running 5K without even feeling it. At this point, I dropped down to a 9:00 mile pace. My distance dropped back to about 1 1/2-2 miles, but eventually I made my way back to 5K. After getting comfortable with the 9:00 pace, I cut back by :30 seconds as opposed to a minute. These are the things I learned during my running experience: (it may be different in your case) 1) If you can get through a good month or two of constant running, you're all set. I found my body went from hating it to craving it after this amount of time. 2) The first mile is the toughest. After the 1 mile mark (or sometimes, the 1km mark), I seem to slip into "the groove". The last 2+ miles seem to go by easier. 3) It's better to run long and slow than fast and short. 4) Using the incline on a treadmill is a total knee destroyer. 5) Don't ever stop running! I reached a point where I was running an 8:00 mile pace over 5K. I stopped running for a 3/4 month period to give my knees a bit of a rest. When I started back up, I could barely run a mile.
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No, I'm not talking about code, I'm talking about physical running (aka jogging.) I'm trying to get into it, I've run a few 5K's and stuff but invariably I can run about a mile and then I have to start walking. Since I can use all the exercise I can get, and those 5Ks usually have lots of attractive women I'd like to be able to impress, I figured I'd try to start jogging frequently (3-5 times a week.) All I am doing is a mile, and it is killing me! But each time I always make a point to run the whole thing, not stop or walk unless there are cars in the way and I have to (hasn't happened yet.) Any other joggers out there? How did you get started? "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
Take a look at the Runners World[^] website. There is a good beginners section. Here, as well as everywhere else I have looked, they suggest thinking in terms of time spent running rather than distance covered. They also suggest mixing running and walking to help in building up your stamina as well as getting muscles and tendons used to the exercise. All the programmes I have seen aim to get you running continiously for 20-30 mins over a period of 8-10 weeks - basically you start run/walk programme i.e. walk for x mins, run for y mins then repeat n times. You start off walking for longer than you run. Over the weeks you decrease the time you spend walking and increase the running until at the end of the program you are running for 20-30 mins. Hope this helps, Phil
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Take a look at the Runners World[^] website. There is a good beginners section. Here, as well as everywhere else I have looked, they suggest thinking in terms of time spent running rather than distance covered. They also suggest mixing running and walking to help in building up your stamina as well as getting muscles and tendons used to the exercise. All the programmes I have seen aim to get you running continiously for 20-30 mins over a period of 8-10 weeks - basically you start run/walk programme i.e. walk for x mins, run for y mins then repeat n times. You start off walking for longer than you run. Over the weeks you decrease the time you spend walking and increase the running until at the end of the program you are running for 20-30 mins. Hope this helps, Phil
Thanks to you (and everyone else) for all the info. My situation is somewhat different from the typical beginner - I have been doing other forms of exercise, such as biking and playing hockey. There just seems to be something about running that gets me. Then again, when I started ice skating, it was somewhat similar, I'd ache all over after only a short amount of time doing it. But with practice it eventually got better. I'm sure it's not unlike the feeling of having programmed in C++ for many years and then trying to do C#. :-D A lot of people suggested using time spent running instead of distance - that sounds like a reasonable idea, except if I run outside, it is difficult to do in practice, I can't go on a set, measured route. On a treadmill at the gym, though, that works well. "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
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I went from "waddling" around the block to running six miles a day. I think the secret is to train your mind (read motivate) and tuning your body to accomodate the increased cardio-vascular exercise. You'll need to get past trying to impress the "pretty girls" as a part of your motivation. :) You have to motivate yourself. BTDT. Get a bike. Train your legs on alternate days with a bike ride. Most important. Keep with it. After a good run, life is good.
Another thing to motivate me is that I want to be in decent enough shape to do this mini-triathlon that happens every year. (Got nearly a year though until the next one.) It is a 9 mile bike, 3 mile run, 0.4 mile swim. I did the bike part this year, but I'd like to be able to do the whole thing. "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
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Another thing to motivate me is that I want to be in decent enough shape to do this mini-triathlon that happens every year. (Got nearly a year though until the next one.) It is a 9 mile bike, 3 mile run, 0.4 mile swim. I did the bike part this year, but I'd like to be able to do the whole thing. "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
You should try running with other people if possible. No better way to push yourself than trying to keep up with someone who's 100x better than you are. Todd Smith
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I'm actually trying to shoot for a 20 minute 5K run. I use a treadmill for running. I still remember the first day of my mission - "I'll take it easy the first day, I'll only run 2 miles". Got on the machine, lasted about 500 meters, then promptly fell off the side where I stayed crumpled in the fetal position for about 20 minutes. haha. I tried two approaches: 1) Calculate the appropriate speed, then run for as long as I could. Eventually, I would work my way "up" to the distance I wanted. 2) Run slow/moderately for a minimum of 1 mile. Eventually, I would work my way "up" to the distance I wanted, and then would work my way "down" to the speed I wanted. I found 1) absolutely useless. I could run a 6:30 mile pace for about 4 1/2 minutes at which point I was ready for CPR. (If you would have dropped me on an iceberg, I would have melted the damn thing) Small gains of 200 meters would take weeks to accomplish. My stamina didn't improve at all. 2) worked good. I started out at a 10:00 mile pace, and ran for a mile. It didn't seem to take long (or much effort) to increase the distance by 1/2 mile. After a couple of months, I was running 5K without even feeling it. At this point, I dropped down to a 9:00 mile pace. My distance dropped back to about 1 1/2-2 miles, but eventually I made my way back to 5K. After getting comfortable with the 9:00 pace, I cut back by :30 seconds as opposed to a minute. These are the things I learned during my running experience: (it may be different in your case) 1) If you can get through a good month or two of constant running, you're all set. I found my body went from hating it to craving it after this amount of time. 2) The first mile is the toughest. After the 1 mile mark (or sometimes, the 1km mark), I seem to slip into "the groove". The last 2+ miles seem to go by easier. 3) It's better to run long and slow than fast and short. 4) Using the incline on a treadmill is a total knee destroyer. 5) Don't ever stop running! I reached a point where I was running an 8:00 mile pace over 5K. I stopped running for a 3/4 month period to give my knees a bit of a rest. When I started back up, I could barely run a mile.
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http://www.ymdb.com/user_top20_view.asp?usersid=8912- The first mile is the toughest. After the 1 mile mark (or sometimes, the 1km mark), I seem to slip into "the groove". The last 2+ miles seem to go by easier. ^^ this is very true. I run for 1-2hrs and the first 10mins is pure hell. After my body has warmed up it actually gets pretty easy unless I'm sprinting up a vertical incline. Todd Smith
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Thanks to you (and everyone else) for all the info. My situation is somewhat different from the typical beginner - I have been doing other forms of exercise, such as biking and playing hockey. There just seems to be something about running that gets me. Then again, when I started ice skating, it was somewhat similar, I'd ache all over after only a short amount of time doing it. But with practice it eventually got better. I'm sure it's not unlike the feeling of having programmed in C++ for many years and then trying to do C#. :-D A lot of people suggested using time spent running instead of distance - that sounds like a reasonable idea, except if I run outside, it is difficult to do in practice, I can't go on a set, measured route. On a treadmill at the gym, though, that works well. "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
Navin wrote: if I run outside, it is difficult to do in practice, I can't go on a set, measured route. Use an 'out-and-back' course. Run 'out' for X minutes, turn around, and run back. A good introductory technique is to mix walking and running. For example, one of the courses my friends and I run on has regularly spaced light poles that are a ~200 feet apart. If you've got something like that, try running patterns of mixed walking and running. Walk 1 light pole, run 1 light pole. Once you can do that comfortably for 30 minutes, try walk 1 light pole, run 2 light poles. You can build this up until you no longer need to walk. The knee pain you've had could be any number of things. It sounds remarkably similar to what happened to me when I started running. I started out running with some friends. I ran in a pair of old walking shoes. At the end of the third day, I could barely walk, my knees hurt so bad. My doctor said I had sprained the meniscus (padding beneath the kneecap). Speaking of shoes, by all means buy a good pair of running shoes. Most mid-size cities have at least one specialty running show store. Have the folks in the store take a look at your feet and your gait and suggest shoes. You'll spend from $70 to $120 for a good pair of shoes. Good luck, and keep us apprised of how you're doing.
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No, I'm not talking about code, I'm talking about physical running (aka jogging.) I'm trying to get into it, I've run a few 5K's and stuff but invariably I can run about a mile and then I have to start walking. Since I can use all the exercise I can get, and those 5Ks usually have lots of attractive women I'd like to be able to impress, I figured I'd try to start jogging frequently (3-5 times a week.) All I am doing is a mile, and it is killing me! But each time I always make a point to run the whole thing, not stop or walk unless there are cars in the way and I have to (hasn't happened yet.) Any other joggers out there? How did you get started? "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
Navin wrote: How did you get started? It was a shoplifting rap, but I didn't do it - the kid behind me in line took it. I swear!:rolleyes:
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