lame jobs

J Dunlap

Marc Clifton wrote: Hey! I have that problem too! :laugh: Marc Clifton wrote: Less. Umm, less than teachers and daycare workers. But they should get paid more anyways. I'd say, it all depends on what the quality of their "workmanship" is like. Marc Clifton wrote: I like taking the easy way out. It's everyone's fault. Never mind what the problem is. :laugh: Too often, that's what people try to do. Scatter the blame far enough, and no one can point it at anyone in particular.

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ravingcoder

is it really on decline? there're sweat shops everywhere

ravingcoder

true enough, first, we don't need fashion - but we definitely need to do actually live a life

ravingcoder

Navin wrote: don't buy all this crap about people losing their jobs becuase they are moving to India yes smart boy

ravingcoder

stop buying from nike

ravingcoder

good for you, that sort of put you in position to legalize that people should bike to work, like their job, do 80 hours weeks and no paid for overtime to make your boss rich.

peterchen

My boss doesn't work any less odd hours than I do. I know how my boss lives, where he goes for vacation, where he usually goes out when he does. Not exactly what I or you call "rich". Maybe successful - but that's another successful than the one in your vocabulary. I earn enough money not to have to have to think about today or tomorrow. I can buy the things I need, and the things I like. I bike to work because I like it. You can smoke your prejudice of greed in a pipe, Sir. Add some weed, to relax.

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Anna Jayne Metcalfe

jdunlap wrote: I'd say, it all depends on what the quality of their "workmanship" is like. That's the problem. No matter how hard they work, they're undervalued. Big time. A close friend of mine was working in Teaching until a couple of years ago and she was earning less than half what I was. Despite that, arguably she was contributing far more to society (she's better qualified than I am as well!). It's a mess. :confused: Anna :rose: Homepage | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work. Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Visual C++ Add-In

ravingcoder

yea, just that you like to stay in that cubicle 24 hours a day doesnt mean that others do - there're many other who just want to live a life. loosen up and get a life

peterchen

Stop assuming things you don't know about others. I have a little office, sharing with a part-timer. Bright daylight (two big windows), I'm looking onto a small garden, with huge beautiful trees in the beckground. I have a small balcony where I can step out. thrdOption wrote: loosen up and get a life I already have a few of these lying around, thank you. Me having or not having "a life" is independent of having a job I like.

"Der Geist des Kriegers ist erwacht / Ich hab die Macht" StS
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ravingcoder

I don't see how you can do that if you're doing 80 hours week,6 days a week, and still have a life. But, if you are in the fortunate position that you actually get paid for overtime * or better * not expected to do much overtime, then please just shut up. There're many of us who working for SweatShop America and don't have much of a choice given the current lame economic condition right now. Although it's probably worse in Japan. Or even worse, in China or India, where wealthy business people get rich by having other working for them at cheap salary and long hours. And did you mention the "greed" word? Just up. just how many man-years of your life is spent paying up mortgage and retirement. Am I asking too much that I get paid for overtime? I dont need expensive SUV. I dont do liposuction and I don't think big houses is important. but for an average developer, just how much spare pocket money do you think you have minus all those things in life. Is that greed? Not wanting to spend a life just working for a piece of real estate or pay for your dying years? so, do me a favor next time you think you just know it: Just shut YOUR MOUTH wise guy. It's a good thing we still have democracy here.

Richard Jones

There is a third option. Go to prison. No work, free food, education, "companionship":~ ... Day 64 of Fridge Science Experiment: Nothing blinking yet.

brianwelsch

surprisingly, living life and enjoying it, generally have little to do with how much expensive stuff you have. But if that's what you want, worsk, save, then buy. It'll make you think about spending the money more, and you'll appreciate what you have, more than you would if bought on credit and just paid it back over time. At least that's what I find.

"Manifest plainness, embrace simplicity,
reduce selfishness, have few desires."
-- Lao Tzu

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