Watcom C/C++ and Fortran-Free!
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Fortran? Woohoo! (though I'm still waiting patiently for FORTRAN.NET) cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
Yes, Fortran! It is still my best programming language, not just the first. It never fails me-in fact, I got into C/C++, Java etc programming because of Fortran. My research works were all simulations of mobile propagation channels and with Fortran I only had to think about the algorithm not the language. In some cases, even on SGI/Cray supercomputer I had to wait a week for the results--enough time to blow C/C++ without offending the Prof! Fortran90 and Fortran95 are really cool. Best regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for programming contract anywhere!
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Hello All, The Watcom C/C++ and Fortran compilers are now freely available-open source road... You can download your copy here: http://www.openwatcom.org/download.html Best regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for programming contract anywhere!
Yeah, and meanwhile Microsoft are...already planning the next version of C#:eek:. Microsoft is opening up the niche in the windows C++ compilers market, what seems to open a new opportunities. Let's wait and see what will come out of it all.
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Damn! This will be the first OpenSource Project I would like to survive. Heck, it's the first one I *care* about. Hope the guys make it. (No, not me...) Watcom C++ was the best compiler I ever worked with. Not that I dislike my Visual, but when I have to tweak some microseconds and look at the age old crapVC++ spits out, I always shed a tear for Watcom, that used to beat my own assembly most of the time... Peter The world turns every day.
i used to love it too totally agree with you --- "every year we invent better idiot proof systems and every year they invent better idiots ... and the linux zealots still aren't being sterilized"
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Yes, Fortran! It is still my best programming language, not just the first. It never fails me-in fact, I got into C/C++, Java etc programming because of Fortran. My research works were all simulations of mobile propagation channels and with Fortran I only had to think about the algorithm not the language. In some cases, even on SGI/Cray supercomputer I had to wait a week for the results--enough time to blow C/C++ without offending the Prof! Fortran90 and Fortran95 are really cool. Best regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for programming contract anywhere!
Yeah - I did all my initial rainfall/erosion simulations using good ol' Fortran 77, then at Defence we had no choice but to use Fortran on their Cray. with Fortran I only had to think about the algorithm not the language I don't understand exactly why this is the case, but I have to agree with you. It just feels natural. Ah - fond memories of starting in column 7 and stopping at column 79 :) cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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Yeah - I did all my initial rainfall/erosion simulations using good ol' Fortran 77, then at Defence we had no choice but to use Fortran on their Cray. with Fortran I only had to think about the algorithm not the language I don't understand exactly why this is the case, but I have to agree with you. It just feels natural. Ah - fond memories of starting in column 7 and stopping at column 79 :) cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
> Ah - fond memories of starting in column 7 and stopping at column 79 You will love Fortran90/95 then-no more column limitations. Microsoft Fortran PowerStation 4.0 (MSDEV4.0 series), now Digital (or is it Compaq/HP) Visual Fortran does help with the columns. They are well marked. Actually I was using the PowerStation for editing (with the Windows memory limitations :(() and then FTPing to Cray to enjoy 24-processor 64-bit compiler-it was that cool :-) Best regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for programming contract anywhere!
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> Ah - fond memories of starting in column 7 and stopping at column 79 You will love Fortran90/95 then-no more column limitations. Microsoft Fortran PowerStation 4.0 (MSDEV4.0 series), now Digital (or is it Compaq/HP) Visual Fortran does help with the columns. They are well marked. Actually I was using the PowerStation for editing (with the Windows memory limitations :(() and then FTPing to Cray to enjoy 24-processor 64-bit compiler-it was that cool :-) Best regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for programming contract anywhere!
24 processor Cray?! Oh man... The thing I loved about the Cray's fortran compilers was the preprocessing it did. You feed it code, it reworks the code and adds in the vectorisation and parallelisation plus a bunch of tweaks and optimisations then gives you back the new improved source code. Very, VERY cool. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
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24 processor Cray?! Oh man... The thing I loved about the Cray's fortran compilers was the preprocessing it did. You feed it code, it reworks the code and adds in the vectorisation and parallelisation plus a bunch of tweaks and optimisations then gives you back the new improved source code. Very, VERY cool. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)
Yeah! 24 you envy me, right? very few had the chance. Not really something a school/lab could easily buy. Even though we had one in our school then it was just on rental basis. Oh, Cray is cry...after you had a taste of speed working on intel is a learning process :-( Anyway, I had lived all along on 667 MHz 64-bit Alpha processor. Thank God I started work with 1-GHz Intel :-) However, I am still a schoolboy and Fortran is still with me. Best regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for programming contract anywhere!
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Damn! This will be the first OpenSource Project I would like to survive. Heck, it's the first one I *care* about. Hope the guys make it. (No, not me...) Watcom C++ was the best compiler I ever worked with. Not that I dislike my Visual, but when I have to tweak some microseconds and look at the age old crapVC++ spits out, I always shed a tear for Watcom, that used to beat my own assembly most of the time... Peter The world turns every day.
On the bright side, some former Watcom employees have left Waterloo and headed off to Redmond :-) "Some times the waves get so high you can hardly eat your dinner" - Captain Highliner
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Hello All, The Watcom C/C++ and Fortran compilers are now freely available-open source road... You can download your copy here: http://www.openwatcom.org/download.html Best regards, Paul. Paul Selormey, Bsc (Elect Eng), MSc (Mobile Communication) is currently Windows open source developer in Japan, and open for programming contract anywhere!
I just got done looking at a bit of the site, and I am curious does Watcom C++ support STL and such ? Also it seems that what you can download at the moment only works if already have one the previous commercial editions of watcom. Waht is the tool like in general, i.e. faster than VC++ at compiling, code performance, what about the debugger ? Sounds really cool though !
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On the bright side, some former Watcom employees have left Waterloo and headed off to Redmond :-) "Some times the waves get so high you can hardly eat your dinner" - Captain Highliner