Borland fire the first shots in a new C++ war?
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A new cross platform/compiler C++. Looks kind of interesting but then Borland stuff always did look promising until you came to use it. http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/09/15/HNborlandstudio_1.html[^] [Product Tour - might take a while to download all the flash demo](http://www.borland.com/cbuilderx/tour/View_C ++BuilderX%20Turbo%20Demo.htm)[[^](http://www.borland.com/cbuilderx/tour/View_C ++BuilderX%20Turbo%20Demo.htm "New Window")] It'll be interesting to see if the die hard C++ fans start to migrate from VS to Borland. Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879
Borland compilers have been pretty decent but their IDEs have been dreadful since Turbo C/C++ for DOS. Moreover, I don't see how this is remotely innovative. Besides Code Warrior, there are actually several decent C/C++ cross platform compilers/IDEs available. In reality, it's another yawner from a has been company.
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Borland compilers have been pretty decent but their IDEs have been dreadful since Turbo C/C++ for DOS. Moreover, I don't see how this is remotely innovative. Besides Code Warrior, there are actually several decent C/C++ cross platform compilers/IDEs available. In reality, it's another yawner from a has been company.
Joe Woodbury wrote: their IDEs have been dreadful since Turbo C/C++ for DOS. I assume you mean since after. Turbo C++ was great as far as I can remember. I liked their DOS products. But maybe I'm being nostalgic. :shrug: -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!
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Joe Woodbury wrote: their IDEs have been dreadful since Turbo C/C++ for DOS. I assume you mean since after. Turbo C++ was great as far as I can remember. I liked their DOS products. But maybe I'm being nostalgic. :shrug: -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!
Ah, Turbo C, Turbo Pascal, Turbo ASM...good memories!
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed - Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Ah, Turbo C, Turbo Pascal, Turbo ASM...good memories!
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed - Dwight D. Eisenhower
KaЯl wrote: Ah, Turbo C, Turbo Pascal, Turbo ASM...good memories! I never liked Pascal. :rolleyes: :-D -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!
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Joe Woodbury wrote: their IDEs have been dreadful since Turbo C/C++ for DOS. I assume you mean since after. Turbo C++ was great as far as I can remember. I liked their DOS products. But maybe I'm being nostalgic. :shrug: -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!
Great??? What else did you use? It was "great" comparing to ms compiler (QuickC). Both of them were far behind of WatcomC++, ZortechC++, HighC++, TopSpeedC++.... Borland C/C++ compilers all the time were cheap, buggy, fast compiling tools, produced fat exe’s, nothing more. gnk
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KaЯl wrote: Ah, Turbo C, Turbo Pascal, Turbo ASM...good memories! I never liked Pascal. :rolleyes: :-D -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I never liked Pascal. Hmph! The nicest language I ever worked with... the nerve of some people!:doh: "My Fridge Science Experiment can beat up your Fridge Science Experiment."
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A new cross platform/compiler C++. Looks kind of interesting but then Borland stuff always did look promising until you came to use it. http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/09/15/HNborlandstudio_1.html[^] [Product Tour - might take a while to download all the flash demo](http://www.borland.com/cbuilderx/tour/View_C ++BuilderX%20Turbo%20Demo.htm)[[^](http://www.borland.com/cbuilderx/tour/View_C ++BuilderX%20Turbo%20Demo.htm "New Window")] It'll be interesting to see if the die hard C++ fans start to migrate from VS to Borland. Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879
As I understand it, it's not the compiler thats cross platform but the IDE (which appears to be written in Java using Swing, boo, hiss achh!), which should not only run on multiple platforms but also support multiple toolchains (i.e. gcc, borland, MSVC, etc). ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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Great??? What else did you use? It was "great" comparing to ms compiler (QuickC). Both of them were far behind of WatcomC++, ZortechC++, HighC++, TopSpeedC++.... Borland C/C++ compilers all the time were cheap, buggy, fast compiling tools, produced fat exe’s, nothing more. gnk
gnk wrote: Both of them were far behind of WatcomC++, ZortechC++, HighC++, TopSpeedC++.... Are you kidding? I still have horrible memories of trying to get ALL of these compilers to work.
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Joe Woodbury wrote: their IDEs have been dreadful since Turbo C/C++ for DOS. I assume you mean since after. Turbo C++ was great as far as I can remember. I liked their DOS products. But maybe I'm being nostalgic. :shrug: -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!
Yeah, I meant after.
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KaЯl wrote: Ah, Turbo C, Turbo Pascal, Turbo ASM...good memories! I never liked Pascal. :rolleyes: :-D -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!
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KaЯl wrote: Ah, Turbo C, Turbo Pascal, Turbo ASM...good memories! I never liked Pascal. :rolleyes: :-D -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!
Pascal was a wonderful language. Turbo Pascal even more so, because you could use inline assembler to get round all that nasty strong typing. Handy for serializing enums without big fat case statements. Pissed off the Lecurers a bit though. Ryan.
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Great??? What else did you use? It was "great" comparing to ms compiler (QuickC). Both of them were far behind of WatcomC++, ZortechC++, HighC++, TopSpeedC++.... Borland C/C++ compilers all the time were cheap, buggy, fast compiling tools, produced fat exe’s, nothing more. gnk
gnk wrote: Borland C/C++ compilers all the time were cheap, buggy, fast compiling tools, produced fat exe’s, nothing more. Sorry, not for me! I loved my Boland compilers and purchased every upgrade up to version 4.5 which started to get a bit buggy. Version 5.0 should not have been released, period. That was the worst compiler as far as bugs that I have ever used. Of course, Borland thought they could do not wrong and only wanted to pump out their Delphi garbage. That is the point I switched to MS products and have been there ever since. I have noticed the Borland C# they recently put out, but from my past history with Borland, I have not dared that path. One of the things I loved about Borland in the early days was their price. I think the upgrade from Borland 3.0 (deluxe or something like that - the top of the line package) to the Borland 4.5 was $149. Now we talk in the high hundreds to more than a thousand just for tools. That is one of the main reasons Borland even exists, they put out Turbo Pascal for $49 when everyone else where several hundred. Wish they would have kept the low price and quality that they once had. Rocky Moore <><
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A new cross platform/compiler C++. Looks kind of interesting but then Borland stuff always did look promising until you came to use it. http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/09/15/HNborlandstudio_1.html[^] [Product Tour - might take a while to download all the flash demo](http://www.borland.com/cbuilderx/tour/View_C ++BuilderX%20Turbo%20Demo.htm)[[^](http://www.borland.com/cbuilderx/tour/View_C ++BuilderX%20Turbo%20Demo.htm "New Window")] It'll be interesting to see if the die hard C++ fans start to migrate from VS to Borland. Michael 'War is at best barbarism...Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, more vengeance, more desolation. War is hell.' - General William Sherman, 1879
Tried C# Builder, hated it. Loved Delphi though years back. Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog
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Pascal was a wonderful language. Turbo Pascal even more so, because you could use inline assembler to get round all that nasty strong typing. Handy for serializing enums without big fat case statements. Pissed off the Lecurers a bit though. Ryan.
Ryan_Roberts wrote: Turbo Pascal even more so, because you could use inline assembler to get round all that nasty strong typing. Why didn't you just use C? :-D Ryan_Roberts wrote: Pissed off the Lecurers a bit though. Yes. Just the thought of
asm { }pissed them off. I used it quite a lot in one lab where we drew Koch fractals. Everything was in assembler basically, except for the fractal algorithms. Did it just to piss off the lab instructors/examinators. :-D I did it in C and assembler, not Pascal ;) -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg! -
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: I never liked Pascal. Hmph! The nicest language I ever worked with... the nerve of some people!:doh: "My Fridge Science Experiment can beat up your Fridge Science Experiment."
Really!? -- You still have your old friend Zoidberg. You all have Zoidberg!