Visio and UML
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Does anyone know how to make Visio let me just draw some darn UML diagrams? I don;t want all the fancy code generation junk. I don't want it to validate my UML. I just want it to provide me with a nice drawing surface and the shapes needed. Let me do what I want! :mad:
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Does anyone know how to make Visio let me just draw some darn UML diagrams? I don;t want all the fancy code generation junk. I don't want it to validate my UML. I just want it to provide me with a nice drawing surface and the shapes needed. Let me do what I want! :mad:
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
UML has a grammar and stuff. You might not wnat to draw that.. Ryan
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Does anyone know how to make Visio let me just draw some darn UML diagrams? I don;t want all the fancy code generation junk. I don't want it to validate my UML. I just want it to provide me with a nice drawing surface and the shapes needed. Let me do what I want! :mad:
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
Yeah I hate it too, all these damned UML tools a bloody dialog pops up that requires more input than is required the code the app in the first place :mad::doh: leppie::AllocCPArticle("Zee blog");
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Does anyone know how to make Visio let me just draw some darn UML diagrams? I don;t want all the fancy code generation junk. I don't want it to validate my UML. I just want it to provide me with a nice drawing surface and the shapes needed. Let me do what I want! :mad:
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
I would like to find ANY tool that would allow me to do what you described. Rational Rose is even worse than Visio, and Visio is among the top worst MS product I have ever tried (together with Internet Explorer and Access). Would you believe that in 21st century I still draw diagrams on paper? :doh:
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I would like to find ANY tool that would allow me to do what you described. Rational Rose is even worse than Visio, and Visio is among the top worst MS product I have ever tried (together with Internet Explorer and Access). Would you believe that in 21st century I still draw diagrams on paper? :doh:
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Does anyone know how to make Visio let me just draw some darn UML diagrams? I don;t want all the fancy code generation junk. I don't want it to validate my UML. I just want it to provide me with a nice drawing surface and the shapes needed. Let me do what I want! :mad:
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
I don't know the answer to your question, but I have investigated cheap ways of doing UML models and I've tried this which has a free version: http://argouml.tigris.org/[^] and it works, but I ultimately bought this: http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/[^] And it works well enough.
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Does anyone know how to make Visio let me just draw some darn UML diagrams? I don;t want all the fancy code generation junk. I don't want it to validate my UML. I just want it to provide me with a nice drawing surface and the shapes needed. Let me do what I want! :mad:
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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I don't know the answer to your question, but I have investigated cheap ways of doing UML models and I've tried this which has a free version: http://argouml.tigris.org/[^] and it works, but I ultimately bought this: http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/[^] And it works well enough.
Works "well enough?" :omg: I tried almost every UML tool on http://www.objectsbydesign.com/tools/umltools_byCompany.html[^] and not only does EA blow them all away, it's one of the lowest in price! It's a paradox, but one that made me a happy customer. Disclaimer: I have no disclaimer; just a satisfied customer. :cool:
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Works "well enough?" :omg: I tried almost every UML tool on http://www.objectsbydesign.com/tools/umltools_byCompany.html[^] and not only does EA blow them all away, it's one of the lowest in price! It's a paradox, but one that made me a happy customer. Disclaimer: I have no disclaimer; just a satisfied customer. :cool:
Ahhh...well enough because it's got very bad documentation for someone starting out with UML. I know they don't purport to teach you how to use it, but their sample diagram could be improved a billion percent easily. Other than that, it's an excellent product they are very responsive to support, price is really good, they wisely use ShareIT.com to process their payments as we do ;) and they're Australian to boot, what's not to like?;P
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Does anyone know how to make Visio let me just draw some darn UML diagrams? I don;t want all the fancy code generation junk. I don't want it to validate my UML. I just want it to provide me with a nice drawing surface and the shapes needed. Let me do what I want! :mad:
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
I hate to refer to any rational product, but did you try Rational XDE Regards, Kannan
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Works "well enough?" :omg: I tried almost every UML tool on http://www.objectsbydesign.com/tools/umltools_byCompany.html[^] and not only does EA blow them all away, it's one of the lowest in price! It's a paradox, but one that made me a happy customer. Disclaimer: I have no disclaimer; just a satisfied customer. :cool:
Wierd by the way how Enterprise ARchitect was there for so many years and along comes Microsoft and releases "Visual Studio Enterprise Architect". I wonder who was first and when the lawsuits are are coming? I know I would sue if it was me, who cares if it's Microsoft, the law is the law, but on the other hand maybe Sparx was not smart enough to get a U.S. trademark first?
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Yeah I hate it too, all these damned UML tools a bloody dialog pops up that requires more input than is required the code the app in the first place :mad::doh: leppie::AllocCPArticle("Zee blog");
Seen on my Campus BBS: Linux is free...coz no-one wants to pay for it.I don't event want it to do that... I just wanna' draw my darn diagrams.
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Diagram Studio[^] is pretty good.
"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God." - Jesus
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Mahatma GandhiHm, now that looks promising...
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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I don't know the answer to your question, but I have investigated cheap ways of doing UML models and I've tried this which has a free version: http://argouml.tigris.org/[^] and it works, but I ultimately bought this: http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/[^] And it works well enough.
John Cardinal wrote: _http://argouml.tigris.org/\[^\]_ Ech... Java John Cardinal wrote: _http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/\[^\]_ Looks cool... but still looks like it does all the fancy codegen stuff too.
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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I hate to refer to any rational product, but did you try Rational XDE Regards, Kannan
$$$$$ Nope
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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John Cardinal wrote: _http://argouml.tigris.org/\[^\]_ Ech... Java John Cardinal wrote: _http://www.sparxsystems.com.au/\[^\]_ Looks cool... but still looks like it does all the fancy codegen stuff too.
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
Yup, it can engineer code for you, build SQL databases etc. I personally don't use it that much, my business partner does the UML documentation, and she was the one that complained about the sample diagram, but other than that it seems to do the job very well and the price is nice.
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$$$$$ Nope
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
which version of Visio did you try, I have Visio 2002 Prof. edition, it doesnt generate any code for me :~ Regards, Kannan
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which version of Visio did you try, I have Visio 2002 Prof. edition, it doesnt generate any code for me :~ Regards, Kannan
I am using the one that comes with VS.NET 2003. I know, I know.. what the heck did I expect right?
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
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Does anyone know how to make Visio let me just draw some darn UML diagrams? I don;t want all the fancy code generation junk. I don't want it to validate my UML. I just want it to provide me with a nice drawing surface and the shapes needed. Let me do what I want! :mad:
Paul Watson wrote: "At the end of the day it is what you produce that counts, not how many doctorates you have on the wall." George Carlin wrote: "Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things." Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: If the physicists find a universal theory describing the laws of universe, I'm sure the asshole constant will be an integral part of that theory.
Simply excellent: Poseidon for UML at www.gentleware.com[^]. They have a gratis Community Edition (limited edition) and commercial versions (Standard, Professional, etc. Even a special Embedded Edition for such work). They released a new major version (2.0) last week which is really great. -- Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability
to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable
for their apparent disinclination to do so. (Douglas Adams) -
I would like to find ANY tool that would allow me to do what you described. Rational Rose is even worse than Visio, and Visio is among the top worst MS product I have ever tried (together with Internet Explorer and Access). Would you believe that in 21st century I still draw diagrams on paper? :doh:
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: Visio is among the top worst MS product I have ever tried Heathen! Visio is great for designing databases/systems, knocking out floor plans and producing screen mockups and general diagrams for projects. As for UML use, I just use it for drafting out the aspects of a system before I work on it so I know how things relate - probably not what it was designed for?
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