Possibly out of a job
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Well if you had a clue this was going to happen, why haven't you been sending out your resume all over the place (like everyone else has - I've been filling my compost pile with this stuff). You can always try kissing major a$$ with your boss, and offering favors like working for no pay on the weekends or waxing his car. Otherwise, join the unemployment line and bring a book (don't drink anything, there is no bathroom). The local supermarket might be looking for a bag boy, but probably everyone else you used to work with is already trying to get that job. PS: no I do not feel sorry for you.
You can always try kissing major a$$ with your boss, and offering favors like working for no pay on the weekends or waxing his car. Otherwise, join the unemployment line and bring a book (don't drink anything, there is no bathroom). The local supermarket might be looking for a bag boy, but probably everyone else you used to work with is already trying to get that job. PS: no I do not feel sorry for you. What kind of help u'r trying to offer? He needs a good progamming job, not useless speech. Anyway, good luck to Jim. Things are a bit tougher now, but it shouldn't be a huge problem for an experienced programmer to land on a decent job. // Fazlul
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Well if you had a clue this was going to happen, why haven't you been sending out your resume all over the place (like everyone else has - I've been filling my compost pile with this stuff). You can always try kissing major a$$ with your boss, and offering favors like working for no pay on the weekends or waxing his car. Otherwise, join the unemployment line and bring a book (don't drink anything, there is no bathroom). The local supermarket might be looking for a bag boy, but probably everyone else you used to work with is already trying to get that job. PS: no I do not feel sorry for you.
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Man, that sucks. I have a friend with lots of Java experience. He left Florida to go back to his parent's house in New York more than two months ago: still hasn't found a job! He says companies are laying off left and right. Not a pretty sight. Get yourself on all the online job sites. Good luck to you! Alvaro
So I suppose it would be a really bad time to quit my current lame job and live off my savings for a couple of months, and than go leisurely about finding a more interesting position? Are things really that bad? I know that the Indianapolis market is absolutely dead. But it looks like Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, etc., have plenty of jobs available. Maybe the industry has finally wised up to the Java hype and is swinging back towards C/C++;) "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
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What a complete asshole. I thought I had the market cornered there, but you are a bigger one than even myself. Congratulations (I think).
I thought I had the market cornered there Hey, not by far. I can be a real asshole if I put my mind to it... ;P
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David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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I thought I had the market cornered there Hey, not by far. I can be a real asshole if I put my mind to it... ;P
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David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com
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So I suppose it would be a really bad time to quit my current lame job and live off my savings for a couple of months, and than go leisurely about finding a more interesting position? Are things really that bad? I know that the Indianapolis market is absolutely dead. But it looks like Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, etc., have plenty of jobs available. Maybe the industry has finally wised up to the Java hype and is swinging back towards C/C++;) "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
The recruiter I talked to today said to prepare for it taking as long a month to find anything
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What a complete asshole. I thought I had the market cornered there, but you are a bigger one than even myself. Congratulations (I think).
Hey what up with this joefor guy ? What the fuck kind of a response was that ?
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The recruiter I talked to today said to prepare for it taking as long a month to find anything
You're going through a recruiter? Those guys are assholes. If you piss them off, they won't submit your resume for anything. I know this from experience. RHI (aka Robert Half, Inc) did that to me. You guys know that I'm so easy going it would be almost impossible to get me worked up enough to maybe irritate anyone. :)
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You're going through a recruiter? Those guys are assholes. If you piss them off, they won't submit your resume for anything. I know this from experience. RHI (aka Robert Half, Inc) did that to me. You guys know that I'm so easy going it would be almost impossible to get me worked up enough to maybe irritate anyone. :)
I know I've got every recruiter in Indy pissed at me. "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
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I know I've got every recruiter in Indy pissed at me. "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
what exactly did you do to piss them off ? I have been dealing with about 6 and so far they have "seemed" OK. But who knows. I don't have a job yet either. Also would you guys take a job at a startup again ? My inclination is pass on working at a startup, I'll be just as happy with a boring bank job thank you very much.
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You're going through a recruiter? Those guys are assholes. If you piss them off, they won't submit your resume for anything. I know this from experience. RHI (aka Robert Half, Inc) did that to me. You guys know that I'm so easy going it would be almost impossible to get me worked up enough to maybe irritate anyone. :)
Hey John, did you ever get your pants back on ? :)
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what exactly did you do to piss them off ? I have been dealing with about 6 and so far they have "seemed" OK. But who knows. I don't have a job yet either. Also would you guys take a job at a startup again ? My inclination is pass on working at a startup, I'll be just as happy with a boring bank job thank you very much.
Well, I never listen to their advice about how to conduct an interview. Ask this question, ask that question. Bull Sh*t. I know what I want to find out about a job I might take, and those are the question I ask. To me recruiters are a somewhat necessary evil, they are over paid morons, and I typically do not hide my contempt for them. One of the reasons I am still a struggling work a day programmer instead of a retired government employee is that I let myself get sucked into the start-up side of things in the early '90s. I had a lot of fun, and was successful, but none of the jobs paid off to the extent I had hoped. I've got a nice next egg, but nothing I can retire on. My current job is *very* boring and I struggle every day not to walk in and tell the big guy to shove it. My big problem is that I've got two kids that have a bad habit of expecting food on the table three times a day. "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
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Hey John, did you ever get your pants back on ? :)