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No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

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    Todd C Wilson
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    Journalists told to cough it up - or else Speechless. So much for whatever it left of what most of us have come to expect as traditional civil rights. Now, someone explain to me, honestly, what the Patriot Act has to do with being a patriot?


    Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com Visual Face Lift: Skinning for apps Listen! Audio Server: Be the music "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free:  Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing.  This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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      Journalists told to cough it up - or else Speechless. So much for whatever it left of what most of us have come to expect as traditional civil rights. Now, someone explain to me, honestly, what the Patriot Act has to do with being a patriot?


      Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com Visual Face Lift: Skinning for apps Listen! Audio Server: Be the music "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free:  Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing.  This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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      Steve McLenithan
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      :wtf:

      // Steve McLenithan

      Family Guy: Season 2 - Episode 8

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        Journalists told to cough it up - or else Speechless. So much for whatever it left of what most of us have come to expect as traditional civil rights. Now, someone explain to me, honestly, what the Patriot Act has to do with being a patriot?


        Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com Visual Face Lift: Skinning for apps Listen! Audio Server: Be the music "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free:  Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing.  This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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        Matt Newman
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        :omg: Matt Newman
        Sonork: 100:11179 "If you're Noah and you're facing the Flood, don't call a lawyer, start building an Ark." - David Cunningham

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          Journalists told to cough it up - or else Speechless. So much for whatever it left of what most of us have come to expect as traditional civil rights. Now, someone explain to me, honestly, what the Patriot Act has to do with being a patriot?


          Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com Visual Face Lift: Skinning for apps Listen! Audio Server: Be the music "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free:  Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing.  This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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          Joe Woodbury
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          While the FBI is attempting to use a provision in the Patriot Act, to pretend this is a new issue is to be disingenuous. The tension between law enforcement and prosecutors and the press goes back almost as long as the country. Nor is the patiot act the first attempt to sway the issue in favor of the government. Interestingly, I believe this will be the first prosectution where the patriot act is actually used (which does raise the question as to why we ever needed it in the first place.) My feeling is that the FBI is SOL. The courts have repeatedly ruled for the confidentiality of reporters and has forced them to surrender notes only in very narrow and specific circumstances and this isn't even close to being one. Joe Woodbury When all else fails, there's always delusion. - Conan O'Brien

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            Journalists told to cough it up - or else Speechless. So much for whatever it left of what most of us have come to expect as traditional civil rights. Now, someone explain to me, honestly, what the Patriot Act has to do with being a patriot?


            Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com Visual Face Lift: Skinning for apps Listen! Audio Server: Be the music "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free:  Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing.  This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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            Lost User
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            The US Constitution and Patriot Act (like any other country's laws) are man-made laws and are therefore flexible and subject to the ebb and flow of their constituents. Democracy and western justice allows all laws to be "tested" now and then and the results of these "tests" tend to bend the "laws" in the direction of the current majority. Think of this as just another test as well as a sampling of public opinion. Mike Mullikin O.E.I. Beauty is only a lightswitch away.

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              While the FBI is attempting to use a provision in the Patriot Act, to pretend this is a new issue is to be disingenuous. The tension between law enforcement and prosecutors and the press goes back almost as long as the country. Nor is the patiot act the first attempt to sway the issue in favor of the government. Interestingly, I believe this will be the first prosectution where the patriot act is actually used (which does raise the question as to why we ever needed it in the first place.) My feeling is that the FBI is SOL. The courts have repeatedly ruled for the confidentiality of reporters and has forced them to surrender notes only in very narrow and specific circumstances and this isn't even close to being one. Joe Woodbury When all else fails, there's always delusion. - Conan O'Brien

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              Tim Smith
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              I think the FBI is SOL on this one too. But it isn't a slam dunk either. Part of the constitution protects us from people using their rights to infringe on ours. Public safety has already been found to be more important than free speech. But as you point out, the courts have repeatedly ruled that in instances such as this, the courts have historically sided with the press. However, I would imagine that in many instances, if public safety was truly in question, the courts would side with law enforcement. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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                Journalists told to cough it up - or else Speechless. So much for whatever it left of what most of us have come to expect as traditional civil rights. Now, someone explain to me, honestly, what the Patriot Act has to do with being a patriot?


                Todd C. Wilson (meme@nopcode.com) NOPcode.com Visual Face Lift: Skinning for apps Listen! Audio Server: Be the music "Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free:  Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing.  This is the Way." - Chuang-Tzu "Zen in the Martial Arts"

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                greghop
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                How clueless can you people get ?? The press has been hiding behind USA "freedom of speech" laws since time immemorial like their momma's skirts. In time of war or large scale social unrest, laws are issued from the end of a gun barrel and my guess is reporters and so on will comply or be arrested. And then when things calm down "everyone" will gripe excessively about how civil rights were restricted and completely forget that the immediate future of this country as the USA instead of suburb of Germany or Japan, was a much larger and more important issue...

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