Multi-format DVD burner recommendations?
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Yes, but DVD RAM is a old and outdated technology that is being phased out. Buy DVDR and RW. DVD+R and +RW are the latest technology. You can get DVD-R disks for $1 to $2 each many places online and DVD-RAM disks are many times more expensive. John
Thanks, John! Yeah, I was mistaken about DVD-RAM technology. I wonder when 8.4G DVDs will become mainstream. /ravi Let's put "civil" back in "civilization" Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
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I've been using the Pioneer A04 for quite awhile and highly recomend the entire line. I was considering upgrading to the A6, but now knowing the A07 is on the horizon, I think I'll wait a little while longer...:) Steve
Steve Mayfield wrote: but now knowing the A07 is on the horizon, Damn technology keeps marching on... :) My 300MHz Pentium-II beast weighs twice as much as my 1.6G Pentium 4 and is about 0.1 as poweful! /ravi Let's put "civil" back in "civilization" Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
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Michael Dunn wrote: -R and -RW are really all you need. I wote for +R and +RW ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!" http://SourceLocker.net[^] SourceControl and DefectTracker Project. nsms@spyf.dk <- Spam Collecting ;)
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Steve Mayfield wrote: but now knowing the A07 is on the horizon, Damn technology keeps marching on... :) My 300MHz Pentium-II beast weighs twice as much as my 1.6G Pentium 4 and is about 0.1 as poweful! /ravi Let's put "civil" back in "civilization" Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
Ravi Bhavnani wrote: technology keeps marching on... That's what I was thinking the other day - I'm only just getting Windows XP, and Longhorn is on its way! ;)
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I'm in the market for a 4-format IDE DVD burner, preferably with buffer under run protection (unless it's way too slow). I was hoping to buy a DVD-RAM device (the Panasonic) but it seems to be a poor performer according to PC Mag review. I plan to house the beast in a firewire external drive case so I can move it between any 1394 enabled PC. I'd be grateful for any product and vendor recommendations based on personal experience. Thanks! /ravi Let's put "civil" back in "civilization" Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
From http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/archive/t148869.html
An 8x DVD-burner is equivalent writing speed to 72x CD-R recording speed It's a pitty that Pioneer are not interested in doing a dual format DVD-burner.andHmm... 72x equivlent..... Has anyone run into the exploding CD problem, read a great article on CD's exploding at high speeds and in several cases destroyed the drive and injured people. This was only at 48 or 52 time writes!and finallyDon't remind me.. It happened to me... A CD exploded in a 48X drive and stabbed my ass when the explosion blew the face plate off.Steve -
I'm in the market for a 4-format IDE DVD burner, preferably with buffer under run protection (unless it's way too slow). I was hoping to buy a DVD-RAM device (the Panasonic) but it seems to be a poor performer according to PC Mag review. I plan to house the beast in a firewire external drive case so I can move it between any 1394 enabled PC. I'd be grateful for any product and vendor recommendations based on personal experience. Thanks! /ravi Let's put "civil" back in "civilization" Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
Here's a big post about DVD recordable formats, from a buddy of mine who's in the video games industry and sees a lot of DVD media come thru his office. ~~~~~ DVD Recordable> Currently there are four DVD Recordable formats: DVD-RAM DVD-R for Authoring DVD-R/RW for General DVD+R/RW DVD-RAM - Don't bother unless you get the drive really cheap and you're only looking for slow data backups. Some DVD-RAM discs can be taken out of their caddies but they will only be read in a (very few) PC DVD-ROM drives that have read support for DVD-RAM media. DVD-R for Authoring - This is the "professional" line of hardware. Full support for all DVD features. A DVD-5 mastered on an Authoring drive can be sent direction to a replication plant as a gold master. DVD-9 still needs to be sent in on DLT. A DVD-R for Authoring drive will still run you upwards of $2500 and the blanks are usually had for $30. Unless you are doing DVD production you DO NOT NEED an Authoring drive. DVD-R/RW for General - This is the "user" line of hardware. The current best drive to get here is the Pioneer A05/105 (A05 is retail, 105 is OEM). This is the drive that Apple OEMs as the Superdrive and the retail version of this drive is selling for $299 with a software bundle. DVD-R/RW for General shares many things in common with it's Authoring brother however it does not have support for CSS and a few other "professional" features. A General disc CANNOT be used as a gold master at a replication house. Any prosumer and even some pro houses will be fine with General drives because t he one-offs produced will work just fine for both data and video. Media for General and Authoring drives is NOT cross compatible and General media is $5 for a single piece (less in bulk). Once burned General and Authoring media can be read in most any drive, so while an Authoring drive cannot burn to General media and vice versa both drives can read discs that have been burned on either. DVD+R/RW - This is the newest format and was designed specifically to be a "consumer" format. There is no "pro" version of DVD+R/RW. The format was designed with copy protection in mind so it does favor corporations over individual users. While the data/video that can be stored on these discs is the same amount that can be stored on DVD-R/RW discs compatibility is different. When it comes to compatibility DVD-R is more compatible than DVD+R. However, when you compare the RW formats DVD+RW has an edge over DVD-RW in overall c
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Here's a big post about DVD recordable formats, from a buddy of mine who's in the video games industry and sees a lot of DVD media come thru his office. ~~~~~ DVD Recordable> Currently there are four DVD Recordable formats: DVD-RAM DVD-R for Authoring DVD-R/RW for General DVD+R/RW DVD-RAM - Don't bother unless you get the drive really cheap and you're only looking for slow data backups. Some DVD-RAM discs can be taken out of their caddies but they will only be read in a (very few) PC DVD-ROM drives that have read support for DVD-RAM media. DVD-R for Authoring - This is the "professional" line of hardware. Full support for all DVD features. A DVD-5 mastered on an Authoring drive can be sent direction to a replication plant as a gold master. DVD-9 still needs to be sent in on DLT. A DVD-R for Authoring drive will still run you upwards of $2500 and the blanks are usually had for $30. Unless you are doing DVD production you DO NOT NEED an Authoring drive. DVD-R/RW for General - This is the "user" line of hardware. The current best drive to get here is the Pioneer A05/105 (A05 is retail, 105 is OEM). This is the drive that Apple OEMs as the Superdrive and the retail version of this drive is selling for $299 with a software bundle. DVD-R/RW for General shares many things in common with it's Authoring brother however it does not have support for CSS and a few other "professional" features. A General disc CANNOT be used as a gold master at a replication house. Any prosumer and even some pro houses will be fine with General drives because t he one-offs produced will work just fine for both data and video. Media for General and Authoring drives is NOT cross compatible and General media is $5 for a single piece (less in bulk). Once burned General and Authoring media can be read in most any drive, so while an Authoring drive cannot burn to General media and vice versa both drives can read discs that have been burned on either. DVD+R/RW - This is the newest format and was designed specifically to be a "consumer" format. There is no "pro" version of DVD+R/RW. The format was designed with copy protection in mind so it does favor corporations over individual users. While the data/video that can be stored on these discs is the same amount that can be stored on DVD-R/RW discs compatibility is different. When it comes to compatibility DVD-R is more compatible than DVD+R. However, when you compare the RW formats DVD+RW has an edge over DVD-RW in overall c
Many thanks! Everything's pointing to the Pioneer for now. /ravi Let's put "civil" back in "civilization" Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com
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Yes, but DVD RAM is a old and outdated technology that is being phased out. Buy DVDR and RW. DVD+R and +RW are the latest technology. You can get DVD-R disks for $1 to $2 each many places online and DVD-RAM disks are many times more expensive. John
John M. Drescher wrote: Yes, but DVD RAM is a old and outdated technology that is being phased out That's not the whole trouth.... DVD-RAM has special media which has not directly sth to do with DVDs as we know it from home-video. DVD-RAM is a very good standard for stand alone systems and backups. The problem is that you can't use it in your DVD player at home, but when you want a fast backup system, then chose DVD-RAM coz you can write sequential, you can delete and add files without loosing performance to the media. I have several servers which use DVD-RAM as backup system. (9,6 GByte for 15$ a media)
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Here's a big post about DVD recordable formats, from a buddy of mine who's in the video games industry and sees a lot of DVD media come thru his office. ~~~~~ DVD Recordable> Currently there are four DVD Recordable formats: DVD-RAM DVD-R for Authoring DVD-R/RW for General DVD+R/RW DVD-RAM - Don't bother unless you get the drive really cheap and you're only looking for slow data backups. Some DVD-RAM discs can be taken out of their caddies but they will only be read in a (very few) PC DVD-ROM drives that have read support for DVD-RAM media. DVD-R for Authoring - This is the "professional" line of hardware. Full support for all DVD features. A DVD-5 mastered on an Authoring drive can be sent direction to a replication plant as a gold master. DVD-9 still needs to be sent in on DLT. A DVD-R for Authoring drive will still run you upwards of $2500 and the blanks are usually had for $30. Unless you are doing DVD production you DO NOT NEED an Authoring drive. DVD-R/RW for General - This is the "user" line of hardware. The current best drive to get here is the Pioneer A05/105 (A05 is retail, 105 is OEM). This is the drive that Apple OEMs as the Superdrive and the retail version of this drive is selling for $299 with a software bundle. DVD-R/RW for General shares many things in common with it's Authoring brother however it does not have support for CSS and a few other "professional" features. A General disc CANNOT be used as a gold master at a replication house. Any prosumer and even some pro houses will be fine with General drives because t he one-offs produced will work just fine for both data and video. Media for General and Authoring drives is NOT cross compatible and General media is $5 for a single piece (less in bulk). Once burned General and Authoring media can be read in most any drive, so while an Authoring drive cannot burn to General media and vice versa both drives can read discs that have been burned on either. DVD+R/RW - This is the newest format and was designed specifically to be a "consumer" format. There is no "pro" version of DVD+R/RW. The format was designed with copy protection in mind so it does favor corporations over individual users. While the data/video that can be stored on these discs is the same amount that can be stored on DVD-R/RW discs compatibility is different. When it comes to compatibility DVD-R is more compatible than DVD+R. However, when you compare the RW formats DVD+RW has an edge over DVD-RW in overall c
Michael Dunn wrote: If you want to get into custom DVD creation go buy yourself a Pioneer 104/A04 or 105/A05 DVD-R/RW drive. You won't regret it. I believe Pioneer now has a model 106 that supports all 4 formats, at about the same price as the 105.
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Michael Dunn wrote: If you want to get into custom DVD creation go buy yourself a Pioneer 104/A04 or 105/A05 DVD-R/RW drive. You won't regret it. I believe Pioneer now has a model 106 that supports all 4 formats, at about the same price as the 105.
p.s. good review of 106 here.
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John M. Drescher wrote: Yes, but DVD RAM is a old and outdated technology that is being phased out That's not the whole trouth.... DVD-RAM has special media which has not directly sth to do with DVDs as we know it from home-video. DVD-RAM is a very good standard for stand alone systems and backups. The problem is that you can't use it in your DVD player at home, but when you want a fast backup system, then chose DVD-RAM coz you can write sequential, you can delete and add files without loosing performance to the media. I have several servers which use DVD-RAM as backup system. (9,6 GByte for 15$ a media)
Olli "Ooooooh, they have the internet on computers now!"
Homer Simpson
:beer: + :java: = NULL :=> X|I agree about this but I still say it is being phased out. How many companies are making them now? I believe the media will eventually cost $35 per disk and the drives will become scarce. John
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John M. Drescher wrote: Yes, but DVD RAM is a old and outdated technology that is being phased out That's not the whole trouth.... DVD-RAM has special media which has not directly sth to do with DVDs as we know it from home-video. DVD-RAM is a very good standard for stand alone systems and backups. The problem is that you can't use it in your DVD player at home, but when you want a fast backup system, then chose DVD-RAM coz you can write sequential, you can delete and add files without loosing performance to the media. I have several servers which use DVD-RAM as backup system. (9,6 GByte for 15$ a media)
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Homer Simpson
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Olli wrote: (9,6 GByte for 15$ a media) Aren't HD less expensive? I recently bought an HD with 120GB (114 real GB) for 115€, that is 1€ per GB.
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KaЯl wrote: Aren't HD less expensive? Less expensive: yes I just say one word: shockproof! Absoloutly important for reliable backups, wich you carry with you. We lost an harddisk not long ago, because it fell on the desk from 20cm distance, perfectly flat. kaboom. 100% data loss. X| When you have to make safe backups, you better take tapes or a more flexible way, DVD-RAM (which also can burn ordinary DVD-R and DVD-RW). For our apps, DVD-RAM is pretty good.
Olli "Ooooooh, they have the internet on computers now!"
Homer Simpson
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