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    Why Oracle let you freely download their software ?. Are those software the same to what we have to buy ? Thank you

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      Why Oracle let you freely download their software ?. Are those software the same to what we have to buy ? Thank you

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      Brian Delahunty
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      Read the licence agreement... then tell me it's free ;-) There are a few Oracle products that are free for "personal" and "educational" use to the best of my knowledge. Regards, Brian Dela :-) http://www.briandela.com[^] IE 6 required.
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        Why Oracle let you freely download their software ?. Are those software the same to what we have to buy ? Thank you

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        Yes you can download the software for free. :) Alternatively, you can purchase a CD that has the same software on it. But as Brian has mentioned, if you go and use it without meeting the license agreement, then you are in violation of that agreement. I'm not sure of the case of using software that Oracle no longer supports. Eg. 6.n, 7.n, and I believe 8.0 and some of the 8.1 releases. Chris Meech If you spin a Chinese person around, do they become dis-oriented? Why do people in this time period worry so much about time traveler's destroying their worldline when they have no problem doing it themselves every day? John Titor.

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          Why Oracle let you freely download their software ?. Are those software the same to what we have to buy ? Thank you

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          I don't know, but I believe that they made this way to provide a better service to their customers. Easy downloads will only serve Oracle better. This leads to another question: why only pirates should be able to freely download software from the Internet? I believe people do not use legal software because they can't get access to a pirate copy. Any P2P network is full of pirate software, probably even Oracle. I believe people buy licenses because it's the right thing to do, they want support, etc. I believe that if our industry wants to reduce piracy, it has to be clear to us that customers should receive real advantages over pirates, not the opposite as it occurs today. It should be simple for me to download and buy a game. I should not be bothered with stupid reg keys. Does someone really have some numbers to prove a reg key really prevent piracy? Just a sample to prove my point: why do some games need the damn CD on the drive? A pirate copy doesn't need it, and I've seen many legal customers cracking their legitimate games. Customers get frustrated when they are treated like pirates. If the game ran from the CD, without installation, as a PS2 game, it would be reasonable, but the game occupies 1.5Gb of my hard disk and I still need to put the CD to play it?


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            I don't know, but I believe that they made this way to provide a better service to their customers. Easy downloads will only serve Oracle better. This leads to another question: why only pirates should be able to freely download software from the Internet? I believe people do not use legal software because they can't get access to a pirate copy. Any P2P network is full of pirate software, probably even Oracle. I believe people buy licenses because it's the right thing to do, they want support, etc. I believe that if our industry wants to reduce piracy, it has to be clear to us that customers should receive real advantages over pirates, not the opposite as it occurs today. It should be simple for me to download and buy a game. I should not be bothered with stupid reg keys. Does someone really have some numbers to prove a reg key really prevent piracy? Just a sample to prove my point: why do some games need the damn CD on the drive? A pirate copy doesn't need it, and I've seen many legal customers cracking their legitimate games. Customers get frustrated when they are treated like pirates. If the game ran from the CD, without installation, as a PS2 game, it would be reasonable, but the game occupies 1.5Gb of my hard disk and I still need to put the CD to play it?


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            The actual license is aimed (in this case) at us lovely cuddly developers....to paraphrase - you can use the software for development ONLY - i.e. learning about Oracle (and there's LOADS to learn - natch!). What you can't do is use it on a customer site - they have to pay for the license, or for anything "production" at your site - i.e. you can develop a (for example) bug tracker, but you can't then use it without licensing Oracle. The point behind it is that it allows developers to essentially practise, and create software for the Oracle platform....as a dev, you can create SQL scripts to create a DB on a customer machine, but they HAVE to pay the piper to use it.... Wish Micro$oft did the same thing - at least they've dropped the price of SQLServer2K Developer recently..... "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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              The actual license is aimed (in this case) at us lovely cuddly developers....to paraphrase - you can use the software for development ONLY - i.e. learning about Oracle (and there's LOADS to learn - natch!). What you can't do is use it on a customer site - they have to pay for the license, or for anything "production" at your site - i.e. you can develop a (for example) bug tracker, but you can't then use it without licensing Oracle. The point behind it is that it allows developers to essentially practise, and create software for the Oracle platform....as a dev, you can create SQL scripts to create a DB on a customer machine, but they HAVE to pay the piper to use it.... Wish Micro$oft did the same thing - at least they've dropped the price of SQLServer2K Developer recently..... "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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              MS do, but with a twist. If you buy the right version of Visual products, you can ship MSDE with your product. Granted, this is a cut-down version, since there are no GUI management tools (but hey, that's what OSQL is for...). You get a developer version which is just like the boxed SQL Server, and then a runtime engine. If your app goes bigger, you can have your client upgrade to full SQL Server with no changes. Serious MS developers have MSDN, of course :) and those who aren't serious soon lose their sense of fun. Steve S

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