Scary thoughts
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America, Western Europe and other democracies around the world CAN AFFORD not to give any economic aid and have no business contacts with monarchies and military regimes Many Europian democracies ARE monarchies (UK, Spain, Norway...), and they are doing just fine. I vote pro drink :beer:
Compare the monarchy of UK with that of Saudi Arabia. UK is a monarchy for namesake. The queen has no power that will hamper a citizen's rights. The *elected* PM and ministry runs the government. That to me is not a monarchy in practical sense. If all nations had monarchies like UK, then it is fine. The reasoning was: There are certain countries that *do not* have a government that is setup by a system, which enables people to decide the rulers and remove them, when they go outside their limits in exercising power. Replace the word monarchy with *autocrat* and you may read it better. -Thomas
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Imagine a version of the Oklahoma bomb, but the size of a ship. Take a look at Texas history about a freighter with fertilizer exploding. It took out a HUGE area. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/7651/ Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
Excellent point. We propellerheads tend to look for excessively elaborate technological problems and solutions, when we should be worrying about simpler ones.
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On human rights: If Hitler did not attack any country, would the world have left the Jews in Germany to their fate? like they are leaving the Afghans under Taliban to their fate? Thanks for writing such a thoughtful response. I would add one thing to your list under human rights: Rwanda. If we think the WTC was bad, the 500,000 murdered in Rwanda, mostly one at a time with machetes, defies imagination. In the debates last year, Al Gore said that not having intervened in the Rwanda genocide was one of his great regrets about his vice presidency. George W. Bush said that the U.S. had no business intervening in Rwanda. His reasoning was:
There needs to be a clear statement of when and if we'll commit troops. I worry about Rwanda. I didn't like what went on in Rwanda. But I don't think we should commit troops to Rwanda. Nor do I think we ought to try to be the peacekeepers all around the world. I intend to tell our allies that America will help make the peace, but you get to put troops on the ground to keep warring parties apart. One of the reasons we have such low morale in the military today, is because we're over-deployed and under-trained. If you talk to the men and women who wear our uniform, who are married, they're constantly being separated as a result of deployments all around the world. We've got to be very careful about when and if we commit our troops.
I think we can see where Bush would have come down on intervening against Hitler before Pearl Harbor. Meanwhile, as disturbing WWII parallels arise, I am particularly discouraged at the fact that a recent Time Magazine poll shows that of 1055 Americans interviewed, "31 percent would allow the internment in camps of Arabs who are U.S. citizens."
Al Gore said that not having intervened in the Rwanda genocide was one of his great regrets about his vice presidency. Do you really buy this? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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Compare the monarchy of UK with that of Saudi Arabia. UK is a monarchy for namesake. The queen has no power that will hamper a citizen's rights. The *elected* PM and ministry runs the government. That to me is not a monarchy in practical sense. If all nations had monarchies like UK, then it is fine. The reasoning was: There are certain countries that *do not* have a government that is setup by a system, which enables people to decide the rulers and remove them, when they go outside their limits in exercising power. Replace the word monarchy with *autocrat* and you may read it better. -Thomas
I just don't see the connection between "monarchy" and "dictatorship". Most dictatorships are republics, not monarchies (China, Iraq, Libia, Cuba, ... name it). As for my native country Serbia it was a democracy when it was a monarchy. Than the communists came, and it become a republic and a dictatorship. To conclude: monarchy vs. republic has little to do with dictatorship vs. democracy I vote pro drink :beer:
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On human rights: If Hitler did not attack any country, would the world have left the Jews in Germany to their fate? like they are leaving the Afghans under Taliban to their fate? Thanks for writing such a thoughtful response. I would add one thing to your list under human rights: Rwanda. If we think the WTC was bad, the 500,000 murdered in Rwanda, mostly one at a time with machetes, defies imagination. In the debates last year, Al Gore said that not having intervened in the Rwanda genocide was one of his great regrets about his vice presidency. George W. Bush said that the U.S. had no business intervening in Rwanda. His reasoning was:
There needs to be a clear statement of when and if we'll commit troops. I worry about Rwanda. I didn't like what went on in Rwanda. But I don't think we should commit troops to Rwanda. Nor do I think we ought to try to be the peacekeepers all around the world. I intend to tell our allies that America will help make the peace, but you get to put troops on the ground to keep warring parties apart. One of the reasons we have such low morale in the military today, is because we're over-deployed and under-trained. If you talk to the men and women who wear our uniform, who are married, they're constantly being separated as a result of deployments all around the world. We've got to be very careful about when and if we commit our troops.
I think we can see where Bush would have come down on intervening against Hitler before Pearl Harbor. Meanwhile, as disturbing WWII parallels arise, I am particularly discouraged at the fact that a recent Time Magazine poll shows that of 1055 Americans interviewed, "31 percent would allow the internment in camps of Arabs who are U.S. citizens."
"I am particularly discouraged at the fact that a recent Time Magazine poll shows that of 1055 Americans interviewed, "31 percent would allow the internment in camps of Arabs who are U.S. citizens." " Oh, we Americans are so evil. When will we ever learn to be part of the civilized world.:(( "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
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"I am particularly discouraged at the fact that a recent Time Magazine poll shows that of 1055 Americans interviewed, "31 percent would allow the internment in camps of Arabs who are U.S. citizens." " Oh, we Americans are so evil. When will we ever learn to be part of the civilized world.:(( "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
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"I am particularly discouraged at the fact that a recent Time Magazine poll shows that of 1055 Americans interviewed, "31 percent would allow the internment in camps of Arabs who are U.S. citizens." " Oh, we Americans are so evil. When will we ever learn to be part of the civilized world.:(( "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
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Al Gore said that not having intervened in the Rwanda genocide was one of his great regrets about his vice presidency. Do you really buy this? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
No. He had the chance and didn't act. That's what counts, not what he said later.
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I think we should just build a huge wall around America and pretend that nobody else exists. Thus, we would never have to made decisions on things and then never be wrong in our choices. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
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I think we should just build a huge wall around America and pretend that nobody else exists. Thus, we would never have to made decisions on things and then never be wrong in our choices. Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.
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We are *not* being attacked because of bad foreign policy decisions. really? how do you know this? -c ------------------------------ Smaller Animals Software, Inc. http://www.smalleranimals.com
Well, because our foriegn policy in the middle-east has not been bad. It's been good. I can appreciate that many in the Islamic community might disagree with those policies, but the acts of 9/11 were grossly out of proportion to any legitimate disagreement over foreign policy. It does not make any sense. We were hit for the same reason that we were hit in 1941. Someone wanted to hurt us, for reasons of military, not diplomatic, significance "I never met anyone I didn't like" Will Rogers.
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I just don't see the connection between "monarchy" and "dictatorship". Most dictatorships are republics, not monarchies (China, Iraq, Libia, Cuba, ... name it). As for my native country Serbia it was a democracy when it was a monarchy. Than the communists came, and it become a republic and a dictatorship. To conclude: monarchy vs. republic has little to do with dictatorship vs. democracy I vote pro drink :beer:
I can't see the original post, but linking monarchy to dictatorship is BS. Sweden is a monarchy state. Sweden is also a democracy with public elections and a parlament where any party receiving more than 4 % of the national votes will get representation corresponding to the number of votes in the 349 seat chamber. We have a Prime Minister and our Royal King does not have political power, but do represent our country. :-O
