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  • E Eco Jones

    Mike Gaskey wrote: You betcha - everyone should run out, buy a crate of tapes, tape the network shows, review them, then let their kids watch the ones that match their version of morality. Okay, mind being consistent? First you say that your kids shouldn't be exposed to things that are morally reprehensible; now you're implying that preventing that is bad. Which is it, Mike? No money for a VCR or a PVR? No time to screen? Sell the TV. Get a library card. Or quit whining that what the networks think is appropriate, you don't. It's not their problem. It's yours. You don't have to let your kid be pop culture's bitch. Mike Gaskey wrote: I assume your opinions would stay the same if you walked outside and found your daughter pulling a train, after all, she might have seen it in TV. I have no idea what point you're trying to make here. Would you rephrase it? Eco

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    Eco Jones wrote: Which is it Sarcasm. Eco Jones wrote: pulling a train Giving a BJ to a line of guys, one after the other. The oral equivalent of a gang bang. And yes it was on network TV. Eco Jones wrote: You don't have to let your kid be pop culture's bitch No one said you did. But if TV continues with the current direction, within 50 years it will be airing man-animal group sex. Think not? A relatively few years ago, Ellen DeG lost a show after outing herself and incorporating that outing into her show. Today you can find show after show after show where homosexuality is the theme. Farther back, say 20 years or so it was frowned on to show a man and woman in bed. Today there's little that is frowned on and if you'll pay attention to the "reality" shows fairly soon it'll be, "Welcome to the who has the moistest whatever show". The point being, each and every season the networks take it farther and farther. The large majority of parents don't care, using the toob as a baby sitter. Those that do, regardless of your statements, have little ability to control what thir kids see and hear because of the pervasiveness of sex, sexual innuendo and gratuitious violence that is shown for shock value in shows that you'd never expect - as with the one that started this thread. Should anyone care? I for one have no minor children, so to a certain extent I don't. I worry for my grand children and later and the amoral world they'll inherit. Mike

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    • D David Stone

      :omg: My Quote Selected Text button is gone! Damn school computers... :mad: Oh well, good thing I can do it by hand ;) Shog9 wrote: Adults - defined as "people under the age of consent" I think you may have meant "over" the age of consent... :) Josh...have they had your straight-jacket fitted yet? :rolleyes:


      When I can talk about 64 bit processors and attract girls with my computer not my car, I'll come out of the closet. Until that time...I'm like "What's the ENTER key?" -Hockey on being a geek

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      David Stone wrote: Shog9 wrote: Adults - defined as "people under the age of consent" Shame on you, changing what i wrote. You should use the quote button, then you wouldn't embarrass yourself by making fun of me for mistakes i didn't make... ;P

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        David Stone wrote: Shog9 wrote: Adults - defined as "people under the age of consent" Shame on you, changing what i wrote. You should use the quote button, then you wouldn't embarrass yourself by making fun of me for mistakes i didn't make... ;P

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        Okay this is wierd...the Quote thingie is there when I try to respond to posts in the Lounge...but not here in the Soapbox... :~ And why on earth would I ever make fun of your mistakes? ;P


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          Okay this is wierd...the Quote thingie is there when I try to respond to posts in the Lounge...but not here in the Soapbox... :~ And why on earth would I ever make fun of your mistakes? ;P


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          David Stone wrote: the Quote thingie is there when I try to respond to posts in the Lounge...but not here in the Soapbox... You must have scared it away...

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          • K KaRl

            It's must be a cultural thing. Here it's hard to see a TV ad without boobs exposure, even to sell yoghourts (I'm exagerating a little bit[^], as always, but not so much). Mike Gaskey wrote: to say, "well it isn't as bad as a serial killer" is a step down the path to the eventual point where there is no such thing as morality. My point was we are much more tolerant to violence than to sex. But again it's cultural, I'm not sure it's the same around the World.


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            KaЯl wrote: It's must be a cultural thing. More a function of the age of a culture versus the culture itself, in the case of what I would call Western Civilization anyway. By the way, I have become numb to violence because it is so prevalent in the media. In a Sly Stallone flick or something more current, you'll see people shot up / hundreds killed, etc -- all to take your attention away from the fact that there is no plot. I frankly think that is dangerous because there are kids today who are growing up with absolutely no sense of right versus wrong. This is primarily due to a drug subculture in the inner cities and to some extent in rural areas. Exposure to mindless violence in entertainment legitimizes things that would not otherwise be so. The same goes for sex. I have an 18, nearly 19 year old step son. I consider him to be past the point where his viewing should be monitored. The wall in his bedroom is full of posters, either females or automobiles. On one of his wall hangings is a reclining nude that I've had for years, but stored until he hit an age where I thought it okay to let him have (I searched for years to find this and hated not having it up). So it isn't a matter of being prudish, my llife has been anything but. However,I am honestly frightened by the amount of sexual content potentially being viewed by small children. The result is the same numbing of the senses and respect for life that I think has been accomplished via violence. Once you're numb to it all, rape becomes something that was asked for and the life you just took, no big deal. Mike

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              Eco Jones wrote: Which is it Sarcasm. Eco Jones wrote: pulling a train Giving a BJ to a line of guys, one after the other. The oral equivalent of a gang bang. And yes it was on network TV. Eco Jones wrote: You don't have to let your kid be pop culture's bitch No one said you did. But if TV continues with the current direction, within 50 years it will be airing man-animal group sex. Think not? A relatively few years ago, Ellen DeG lost a show after outing herself and incorporating that outing into her show. Today you can find show after show after show where homosexuality is the theme. Farther back, say 20 years or so it was frowned on to show a man and woman in bed. Today there's little that is frowned on and if you'll pay attention to the "reality" shows fairly soon it'll be, "Welcome to the who has the moistest whatever show". The point being, each and every season the networks take it farther and farther. The large majority of parents don't care, using the toob as a baby sitter. Those that do, regardless of your statements, have little ability to control what thir kids see and hear because of the pervasiveness of sex, sexual innuendo and gratuitious violence that is shown for shock value in shows that you'd never expect - as with the one that started this thread. Should anyone care? I for one have no minor children, so to a certain extent I don't. I worry for my grand children and later and the amoral world they'll inherit. Mike

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              Mike Gaskey wrote: Sarcasm. Yes, I got the sarcasm. And you were being contradictory. "I care what my kids see on TV, but I'll make fun of you for suggesting taking a real effort to know what my kids see on TV." Mike Gaskey wrote: But if TV continues with the current direction, within 50 years it will be airing man-animal group sex. So what? Nobody's forcing you to watch it. If you don't like it, don't watch it - don't let your kids watch it. If enough people don't like it, they won't air it. After all, TV exists to make money for advertisers and product manufacturers. It is not around for your benefit. It is there to exploit you. Mike Gaskey wrote: amoral world Please. 'Moral' is arbitrary and subjective. If you really don't like the morals that society projects in the media, then I guess you'll make a big effort to decide what in that media should influence your kids. Mike Gaskey wrote: pulling a train Hehehe I've never heard that one before. Eco

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                David Stone wrote: the Quote thingie is there when I try to respond to posts in the Lounge...but not here in the Soapbox... You must have scared it away...

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                Yeah...it's all that foul language I use and the very controversial posts I make. :rolleyes:


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                  Yeah...it's all that foul language I use and the very controversial posts I make. :rolleyes:


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                  Exactly my point. Perhaps a restatement of my point, in fact. Possibly my exact words, though i can't be bothered to look at present. Too busy.

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                  • C Chris Meech

                    Ooops. Didn't make that clear. I meant to say national in the American context and certainly not in the Canadian one. I'm not a big fan of the CBC, though. Other than HNIC, there's not much that I watch from them. [Go Habs, Go] :-D Chris Meech If you spin a Chinese person around, do they become dis-oriented? Why do people in this time period worry so much about time traveler's destroying their worldline when they have no problem doing it themselves every day? John Titor.

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                    Habs, I can respect. :-D Leafs, I cannot. :mad: GO NUCKS GO! Chris Meech wrote: HNIC Too bad this is the last year, since the lockout is looming for next season. :((:(( The kindest thing you can do for a stupid person, and for the gene pool, is to let him expire of his own dumb choices. [Roger Wright on stupid people] We're like private member functions [John Theal on R&D]

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                      KaЯl wrote: Question to the offended ones : would it be shocking if the line would have been "My wife a serial-killer? For my money this is the sort of thought process that will eventually take Western society down the tubes. To distract from the subject at hand, which you know to be both the exposure of children to homosexuality (a perversion regardless of politically correct opinion) or to oral sex when they're at an age where a kiss on the lips (those under your nose) should be tittilating enough, to say, "well it isn't as bad as a serial killer" is a step down the path to the eventual point where there is no such thing as morality. Furthermore, to see it on TV at a time when children are sure to be watching is to give tacit, societal approval of something that should be under the control of parents to approve or disapprove, not a TV station, not a producer, not a director, not a government, not a neighbor. To put it more succinctly, it is the parents job to teach morals. That includes attitudes regarding sex, the taking of lives, telling the truth - not the media's. Mike

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                      Mike Gaskey wrote: to see it on TV at a time when children are sure to be watching 9:30 to 10pm on a weeknight is a time when kids are sure to be watching??? :wtf::omg: I don't know about you, but when I was young enough not to know about oral sex and the like, I was in bed long before 10pm. The rest of your points are valid: it is up the parent to raise the kid, not the TV. The kindest thing you can do for a stupid person, and for the gene pool, is to let him expire of his own dumb choices. [Roger Wright on stupid people] We're like private member functions [John Theal on R&D]

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                      • S Smitha Nishant

                        It wouldn't appear on a TV show here in Kerala. The censor rules are quite strict and the channel would be severly criticised. I am sure the channel rating among family viewers will go for a toss. I personally feel it very inappropriate, especially you wouldn't know if you'd be watching it with your parents. Smitha You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it true. You may have to work for it, however. -- Richard Bach

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                        Smitha Vijayan wrote: I personally feel it very inappropriate, especially you wouldn't know if you'd be watching it with your parents. Gosh, can't your parent's talk to you about sex, or you talk to your parents about sex ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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                          Brand new show last night. I'm sure that there is a broad spectrum of people who liked and didn't like it. However it ended with a line that I thought was pretty funny, but surprised that it made it on TV. The two brothers are drunk and being driven home in a cab. One has recently been thrown out of his home by his wife who has become a lesbian. The final line of the show is this brother saying, 'My wife a lesbian? How can that be? She's never enjoyed oral sex.' Vote 1 if you think the line is not acceptable for a TV show or vote 5 if you think it is. :) Chris Meech If you spin a Chinese person around, do they become dis-oriented? Why do people in this time period worry so much about time traveler's destroying their worldline when they have no problem doing it themselves every day? John Titor.

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                          While, kids shouldn't be watching TV anyway. What's objectionable the lesbians or oral sex ? Both exist. I think violence on TV is far more harmful. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                            Smitha Vijayan wrote: I personally feel it very inappropriate, especially you wouldn't know if you'd be watching it with your parents. Gosh, can't your parent's talk to you about sex, or you talk to your parents about sex ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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                            Eastern people are usually a lot more sensitive about sex than you "westerners". I can't tell you how many good jokes involving sex I can't tell my colleagues because of that. :sigh:


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                              Smitha Vijayan wrote: I personally feel it very inappropriate, especially you wouldn't know if you'd be watching it with your parents. Gosh, can't your parent's talk to you about sex, or you talk to your parents about sex ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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                              It does not happen like that in most families here. Kids normally get info from friends :) Its not that sex is considered wrong or anything, but I dunno... Smitha You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it true. You may have to work for it, however. -- Richard Bach

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                                It does not happen like that in most families here. Kids normally get info from friends :) Its not that sex is considered wrong or anything, but I dunno... Smitha You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it true. You may have to work for it, however. -- Richard Bach

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                                Smitha Vijayan wrote: Kids normally get info from friends That happens here as well, but from my memory, most of this info was WRONG. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                                • K KaRl

                                  Chris Meech wrote: instead of bikini clad babes, they use topless ones Ah, yes! :-D However, to avoid accusations of sexual discrimination and to satisfy our feminine audience, I suggest they add some chippendales too.


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                                  ...i extend an offer. I will cheerfully handle all accusations of sexual discrimination and dissatisfied females, in exchange for your promise to never take suggestions from Karl IRT your ad campaigns... ;P

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                                    ...i extend an offer. I will cheerfully handle all accusations of sexual discrimination and dissatisfied females, in exchange for your promise to never take suggestions from Karl IRT your ad campaigns... ;P

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                                    Are you strong enough to handle a bunch of angry feminists[^]? ;P


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                                      Are you strong enough to handle a bunch of angry feminists[^]? ;P


                                      New, what do you own the world? How do you own disorder?

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                                      Mmmm, hippy chicks...

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                                      • M Mike Gaskey

                                        Chris Meech wrote: saying, 'My wife a lesbian? How can that be? She's never enjoyed oral sex.' How could anyone object after a sitting President, oh, never mind. Or, just what damage can one amoral bastard in high office accomplish?:doh: Mike

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                                        Mike Gaskey wrote: How could anyone object after a sitting President, oh, never mind. Or, just what damage can one amoral bastard in high office accomplish? Talking about morals, if you think fornication and racism is not immoral, then you are dead wrong. Fornication is a sin and racists of all degrees are the ultimate scum humans can become. Stop spewing shit, please.

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