Info Pollution
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Outlook 2003 is doing a fantastic job so far, better than it was in the betas or previous Outlook versions. Lets through very little (I have it set on agressive filtering) and like you I scan through the Spam folder before emptying it just in case. I only get about 70 spam a day. We had SpamAssasin for a week but the very first email it tagged was an email from the boss to me (the email had sample HTML code in it). :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
Paul Watson wrote: Outlook 2003 is doing a fantastic job so far, better than it was in the betas or previous Outlook versions. My MSDN sub turned up last week with Office 2003. I might install it and see if it is better than XP. (Hopefully they'll have fixed the bug where the rules don't run if Outlook is initializing whilst downloading mail) Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
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I maintain a Yahoo or Hotmail account for use when I have to give my email address to unreliable sources or to register on web sites or in places where spammers can pick up my email address. This way my home email address is available only to known entities. Till now the strategy has worked and I receive no spam at home. Something interesting happened the other day. I received an email on one my yahoo accounts saying that I had spammed someone. The email was generated by some Symantec software. What is interesting is that the person I had supposedly spammed is someone who had contaced me a while ago. Its almost like this person was testing some software and used my email address or something like that. I recognized the persons name from the email. I don't even have his email address. He had called me, and I remembered his name. Now I need to dig into this. Don't like the idea of being accused of spamming.
Ranjan Banerji wrote: I maintain a Yahoo or Hotmail account for use when I have to give my email address to unreliable sources or to register on web sites or in places where spammers can pick up my email address. This way my home email address is available only to known entities. Till now the strategy has worked and I receive no spam at home. Sadly, during my early days on the .NET I wasn't so careful, posting my email on newsgroups and mailto links on my websites. The naive years of the early to mid 90's. Ranjan Banerji wrote: Don't like the idea of being accused of spamming. Interestingly, a recent set of conversations between one of my hosting providers and myself were being marked as spam by their machines. They had sent me a sales pitch, I replied to the message leaving their entire message in the reply. Their spam filter picked up on their sales pitch in my reply and assumed it was Spam. LOL Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
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Info Pollution[^] Interesting article. What are you using for dealing with spam and unsolicted mail. I currently have an Outlook rule that moves all mail that isn't from a known contact into a spam folder for later deletion. I also have rules for moving CP notifications and the like. Anybody got any recommendations on Spam fighting products, something that will help reduce down the time taken to delete the 40+ spam mail a day out of the spam folder. (I still have to check the folder manually just incase a known client/contact has changed email addresses) Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
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Info Pollution[^] Interesting article. What are you using for dealing with spam and unsolicted mail. I currently have an Outlook rule that moves all mail that isn't from a known contact into a spam folder for later deletion. I also have rules for moving CP notifications and the like. Anybody got any recommendations on Spam fighting products, something that will help reduce down the time taken to delete the 40+ spam mail a day out of the spam folder. (I still have to check the folder manually just incase a known client/contact has changed email addresses) Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
It always makes me laugh when I see these spam debates and people reply saying "I use this Outlook filter" or "I use that Outlook filter" - great, but by this point the bloody messages have already been downloaded! I find it shocking that more people don't either use server based products (we use SpamAssassin) that will delete the spam BEFORE you waste bandwidth copying the messages to your PC or at the very least an Outlook plugin that will delete the message from your POP3 server based on the header content (OK, not always possible I know, but just downloading the header is often enough to determine if a message is spam). SpamAssassin catches over 100 messages destined for me daily - I don't get ANY spam anymore - not a single message. I get a daily report mailed to me with a log of the sender/subject of each message so in the VERY rare case of a false-positive, I can click a URL to free the message. SpamAssassin uses Bayesian filtering so gets better with time anyway. OK, it took a couple of days to setup this system, but it is well worth the effort. We have people who work out on the road where spam filtering on the client would be VERY expensive when downloading mail over a 9.6KB mobile phone connection!
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I maintain a Yahoo or Hotmail account for use when I have to give my email address to unreliable sources or to register on web sites or in places where spammers can pick up my email address. This way my home email address is available only to known entities. Till now the strategy has worked and I receive no spam at home. Something interesting happened the other day. I received an email on one my yahoo accounts saying that I had spammed someone. The email was generated by some Symantec software. What is interesting is that the person I had supposedly spammed is someone who had contaced me a while ago. Its almost like this person was testing some software and used my email address or something like that. I recognized the persons name from the email. I don't even have his email address. He had called me, and I remembered his name. Now I need to dig into this. Don't like the idea of being accused of spamming.
Ranjan Banerji wrote: I maintain a Yahoo or Hotmail account for use when I have to give my email address to unreliable sources or to register on web sites or in places where spammers can pick up my email address. This way my home email address is available only to known entities. Till now the strategy has worked and I receive no spam at home I've found this strategy pretty effective as well - long live Hotmail's junk mail I say! :)
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It always makes me laugh when I see these spam debates and people reply saying "I use this Outlook filter" or "I use that Outlook filter" - great, but by this point the bloody messages have already been downloaded! I find it shocking that more people don't either use server based products (we use SpamAssassin) that will delete the spam BEFORE you waste bandwidth copying the messages to your PC or at the very least an Outlook plugin that will delete the message from your POP3 server based on the header content (OK, not always possible I know, but just downloading the header is often enough to determine if a message is spam). SpamAssassin catches over 100 messages destined for me daily - I don't get ANY spam anymore - not a single message. I get a daily report mailed to me with a log of the sender/subject of each message so in the VERY rare case of a false-positive, I can click a URL to free the message. SpamAssassin uses Bayesian filtering so gets better with time anyway. OK, it took a couple of days to setup this system, but it is well worth the effort. We have people who work out on the road where spam filtering on the client would be VERY expensive when downloading mail over a 9.6KB mobile phone connection!
The issue here is that I don't run my own mail server, and on my connection I don't get overly worked up about the bandwidth - so SpamBayes is a suitable solution because it's easy. SpamAssassin might very well be good, but if what I have works, why change it? -- Ian Darling "The moral of the story is that with a contrived example, you can prove anything." - Joel Spolsky
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It always makes me laugh when I see these spam debates and people reply saying "I use this Outlook filter" or "I use that Outlook filter" - great, but by this point the bloody messages have already been downloaded! I find it shocking that more people don't either use server based products (we use SpamAssassin) that will delete the spam BEFORE you waste bandwidth copying the messages to your PC or at the very least an Outlook plugin that will delete the message from your POP3 server based on the header content (OK, not always possible I know, but just downloading the header is often enough to determine if a message is spam). SpamAssassin catches over 100 messages destined for me daily - I don't get ANY spam anymore - not a single message. I get a daily report mailed to me with a log of the sender/subject of each message so in the VERY rare case of a false-positive, I can click a URL to free the message. SpamAssassin uses Bayesian filtering so gets better with time anyway. OK, it took a couple of days to setup this system, but it is well worth the effort. We have people who work out on the road where spam filtering on the client would be VERY expensive when downloading mail over a 9.6KB mobile phone connection!
Not everyone is stuck on POP3, I use Outlook 2003 with Exchange so it is not such a laughable solution. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
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Not everyone is stuck on POP3, I use Outlook 2003 with Exchange so it is not such a laughable solution. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Miszou wrote: I have read the entire internet. on how boring his day was. Crikey! ain't life grand?
And there is no Exchange server-based spam solution??? There must be something surely? I still find the idea of downloading all this junk and then having some plugin/rules moving it sideways crazy. However, more ISPs should be getting on top of this for those that have no control over their servers - it's pathetic how little is done by some of the big boys in this market. I'll never get my parents on the net with 100s of p0rn and vicodin messages cluttering up their mailbox every day!
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Info Pollution[^] Interesting article. What are you using for dealing with spam and unsolicted mail. I currently have an Outlook rule that moves all mail that isn't from a known contact into a spam folder for later deletion. I also have rules for moving CP notifications and the like. Anybody got any recommendations on Spam fighting products, something that will help reduce down the time taken to delete the 40+ spam mail a day out of the spam folder. (I still have to check the folder manually just incase a known client/contact has changed email addresses) Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
Michael P Butler wrote: Anybody got any recommendations on Spam fighting products I'm using Outlook, purely becuse their exists a "Spambayes" Add-In version for Outlook. www.spambayes.org It removes hundreds of spams a day for me successfully. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Info Pollution[^] Interesting article. What are you using for dealing with spam and unsolicted mail. I currently have an Outlook rule that moves all mail that isn't from a known contact into a spam folder for later deletion. I also have rules for moving CP notifications and the like. Anybody got any recommendations on Spam fighting products, something that will help reduce down the time taken to delete the 40+ spam mail a day out of the spam folder. (I still have to check the folder manually just incase a known client/contact has changed email addresses) Michael 'Logic, my dear Zoe, merely enables one to be wrong with authority.' - The Doctor: The Wheel in Space
I've sent e-mails to folks using http://www.spamsleuth.com/ but have never used it myself. I had to send to the user of another spam-blocking product less than a week ago but the name escapes me. Both were painless to authenticate with. I personally like the ones that you sign up for, and when someone sends you an e-mail, the sender gets an e-mail instructing them to visit a site that authenticates them. Your friends/family/contacts only have to do this once. As far as I can tell, this is about as foolproof as you can get.
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